EPTThen later on I saw a bunch of SCVs stacking and attacking together. WTF.
Check it out yourself... It happens from 1:40 mark
If a hack is already available on ladder.. god
SCV stack hack on ladder?
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konadora
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Then later on I saw a bunch of SCVs stacking and attacking together. WTF. Check it out yourself... It happens from 1:40 mark If a hack is already available on ladder.. god | ||
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Qikz
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Jeremiah1
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Q~Bert
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Dazed.
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
edit oops rightclick onto gas and the shift right click twice | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On August 31 2018 03:03 Q~Bert wrote: Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it. i just walled in LMAO thank god it was heartbreak ridge | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
 way-point geyser, way-point attack | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On August 31 2018 03:03 Q~Bert wrote: Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it. It's funny because you can just do it yourself too, you'll have more workers than they do | ||
BigFan
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Q~Bert
United States670 Posts
On August 31 2018 04:41 LG)Sabbath wrote: It's funny because you can just do it yourself too, you'll have more workers than they do Except I am zerg, so I can't really fight drones vs scvs. I just have to save drones until lings pop out. | ||
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Lazare1969
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CHEONSOYUN
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FlaShFTW
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
To do it, you stack your workers nice and tight on some minerals, click on a geyser, shift-click on that gas geyser until u get the queue is full message, then issue 1 attack command. Usually its to some building but I think attack move can be done too (you can lead them on a chase if its attack move). The key is that they can't issue any more commands after the attack command without unstacking the scvs, so you want to just lift/cancel whatever building they've targeted on. Its much more obnoxious/effective vs protoss. They just kill the nexus with 12 stacked scvs while your one dragoon hopelessly tries to stop them with its 10 damage per hit. If you don't have 400 minerals, you actually just lose. | ||
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Jealous
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First of all, as someone mentioned, you can just do it back to them. Second of all, you should have more workers - a lot more - by the time they reach you, unless you're 9 pooling or something (in which case you win anyway). You don't even have to do the trick, simply attack without over-microing and you win. | ||
zobz
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Jealous
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On August 31 2018 11:14 zobz wrote: The SCVs look like they're more mobile than stacked SCVs should be, but actually I think they still have some difficulty moving around. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. In any case, if you're Zerg and you're waiting for spawning pool to finish, you can delay him by attacking him at range with just a few drones, and force him to move away from your buildings. When he does try to turn around and fight your drones, you can just retreat and draw him away from the target he really wants, and it is difficult for the Terran to beat your pool timing this way. They move at the same speed, it's just that they have to re-stackattack them when re-assigning a target if I'm not mistaken. | ||
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FFW_Rude
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
In general, i think iccup rules were pretty good, it makes sense to give a clear definition on which tricks are legal and which aren't. It won't matter on bnet since blizzard is not giving user support in this department. | ||
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Piste
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After a player have sent his scv glitch train he can't target anything or switch direction or his scv's will unstack. Does blizzard have customer support where you can report players who exploit this bug? | ||
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Jealous
10310 Posts
On August 31 2018 21:14 Piste wrote: There is a easy counter for this, just use one unit to lure the scv train elsewhere. After a player have sent his scv glitch train he can't target anything or switch direction or his scv's will unstack. Does blizzard have customer support where you can report players who exploit this bug? This is not really true. They can change targets as long as they have an empty gas in their vision to restack on from my understanding. Also, one unit will not "lead them away" because they are always on a-target not a-move when stacked. | ||
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
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Piste
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On September 01 2018 02:36 Jealous wrote: This is not really true. They can change targets as long as they have an empty gas in their vision to restack on from my understanding. Also, one unit will not "lead them away" because they are always on a-target not a-move when stacked. Nope they cannot restack with just an empty gas in their vision. They need to actually touch the gas first, and usually a mineral patch is needed also to to get the workers properly stacked. The time required to restack should be enough for the defender to prepare. You're wrong about the attack command thought since you can use both attack on target or attack move. Attacking on a target just doesnt make much sense since you can just kill the workers while their attacking the designated target. With attack move the worker stack will attack anything on their path while staying stacked and also switch to higher priority target that comes on their way. On September 01 2018 07:23 Lazare1969 wrote: they could always just nerf stacked workers' damage so only up to, let's say, 4 workers belonging to one player in each unit square can damage other units, and the rest do zero damage. or they could go extra fancy by adjusting miss rate to be directly proportional to the total number of workers in each square. this is much safer than outright disabling this maneuver as that could break other mechanics. this would brake ling, zealot, dt ect. harrass though | ||
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Jealous
10310 Posts
On September 01 2018 07:56 Piste wrote: Nope they cannot restack with just an empty gas in their vision. They need to actually touch the gas first, and usually a mineral patch is needed also to to get the workers properly stacked. The time required to restack should be enough for the defender to prepare. You're wrong about the attack command thought since you can use both attack on target or attack move. Attacking on a target just doesnt make much sense since you can just kill the workers while their attacking the designated target. With attack move the worker stack will attack anything on their path while staying stacked and also switch to higher priority target that comes on their way. Well, I did say they would have to restack ON the empty gas - for example, if you take your gas, it doesn't work anymore, right? Beyond that, I didn't know about the a-move! I've never really done it myself, was just going off of observation and second-hand information. Thanks for clarifying. | ||
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Piste
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On September 01 2018 08:56 Jealous wrote: Well, I did say they would have to restack ON the empty gas - for example, if you take your gas, it doesn't work anymore, right? Beyond that, I didn't know about the a-move! I've never really done it myself, was just going off of observation and second-hand information. Thanks for clarifying. Yes I think you are right, it does not work if the assimilator/exctractor/refinery has been built. Somehow I skipped the word "on" in your previous post. It's just two letters but had a bigger impact on how I understood what you ment, sorry bout that | ||
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