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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-30 17:58:06
August 30 2018 17:57 GMT
#1
I was playing a ladder game and realised this weird thing going on by my enemy Terran. 3 scouting SCVs? that's weird.. thought it was a cheese.

Then later on I saw a bunch of SCVs stacking and attacking together. WTF.

Check it out yourself... It happens from 1:40 mark



If a hack is already available on ladder.. god
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 30 2018 18:01 GMT
#2
It's not a hack, it's been a glitch for years and while it was technically banned on iccup (as in if you were reported they'd remove the win iirc) it's not a hack at least.
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Jeremiah1
Profile Blog Joined June 2015
United States14 Posts
August 30 2018 18:02 GMT
#3
This is clearly not a hack. You can stack workings buy going to a vespene gas/mineral patch and attack.
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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
August 30 2018 18:03 GMT
#4
Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 30 2018 18:04 GMT
#5
what a pathetic person siriush is
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-30 18:30:44
August 30 2018 18:08 GMT
#6
Been a while since I've seen this. iirc just stack up on a mineral and then shift + right click on a geyser twice and then queueing up an attack at a location and they should stay stacked

edit oops rightclick onto gas and the shift right click twice
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
August 30 2018 18:10 GMT
#7
interesting, i've played for more than a decade and never encountered this on a ladder game ever :/ thanks for the info
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
August 30 2018 18:12 GMT
#8
On August 31 2018 03:03 Q~Bert wrote:
Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it.

i just walled in LMAO thank god it was heartbreak ridge
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
August 30 2018 19:19 GMT
#9
Play "Can you do 25 Tricks" worker stack attack is one of the missions

way-point geyser, way-point attack
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
August 30 2018 19:41 GMT
#10
On August 31 2018 03:03 Q~Bert wrote:
Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it.

It's funny because you can just do it yourself too, you'll have more workers than they do
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 30 2018 19:51 GMT
#11
ya, as mentioned, not a hack. It's just a part of the game, but you never see it on ICCup from what I recall.
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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
August 30 2018 20:09 GMT
#12
On August 31 2018 04:41 LG)Sabbath wrote:
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On August 31 2018 03:03 Q~Bert wrote:
Haha yes, I have had this done to me probably a dozen times already on ladder. I also thought it was a hack. Turns out I just had avoided ever seeing it in all the years I have played this game. It's basically a trick ingrained in the game that is banned in tournaments, etc. Essentially you just fill up the queue command by control+right clicking numerous times so that when you attack your workers don't unstack. It took me like 5-6 losses on ladder before I learned how to beat it.

It's funny because you can just do it yourself too, you'll have more workers than they do


Except I am zerg, so I can't really fight drones vs scvs. I just have to save drones until lings pop out.
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Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
August 30 2018 20:32 GMT
#13
it happens quite often in 3v3 hunters where a terran who scouts a nearby enemy zerg does this
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
522 Posts
August 30 2018 21:12 GMT
#14
haha i remember someone did this like 4 timesin a row to forgg
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10154 Posts
August 30 2018 21:12 GMT
#15
lol what a dweeb. still lost after using a banned exploit. good riddance on that guy.
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EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
August 30 2018 23:03 GMT
#16
ah yes, the infamous scv stack glitch. It was banned on all ladders and tournaments (think you could get banned on iccup for using it). You'd see it a bunch on fish melee games though.

To do it, you stack your workers nice and tight on some minerals, click on a geyser, shift-click on that gas geyser until u get the queue is full message, then issue 1 attack command. Usually its to some building but I think attack move can be done too (you can lead them on a chase if its attack move). The key is that they can't issue any more commands after the attack command without unstacking the scvs, so you want to just lift/cancel whatever building they've targeted on.

Its much more obnoxious/effective vs protoss. They just kill the nexus with 12 stacked scvs while your one dragoon hopelessly tries to stop them with its 10 damage per hit. If you don't have 400 minerals, you actually just lose.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
August 30 2018 23:20 GMT
#17
As others have mentioned, this is banned in competition, was banned on ICCup, so that is probably why you didn't see it (though you must have also been very lucky). I've seen it countless times by now. It's always frustrating but if you know how to handle it, you won't lose.

First of all, as someone mentioned, you can just do it back to them. Second of all, you should have more workers - a lot more - by the time they reach you, unless you're 9 pooling or something (in which case you win anyway). You don't even have to do the trick, simply attack without over-microing and you win.
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zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
August 31 2018 02:14 GMT
#18
The SCVs look like they're more mobile than stacked SCVs should be, but actually I think they still have some difficulty moving around. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. In any case, if you're Zerg and you're waiting for spawning pool to finish, you can delay him by attacking him at range with just a few drones, and force him to move away from your buildings. When he does try to turn around and fight your drones, you can just retreat and draw him away from the target he really wants, and it is difficult for the Terran to beat your pool timing this way.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
August 31 2018 05:23 GMT
#19
On August 31 2018 11:14 zobz wrote:
The SCVs look like they're more mobile than stacked SCVs should be, but actually I think they still have some difficulty moving around. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. In any case, if you're Zerg and you're waiting for spawning pool to finish, you can delay him by attacking him at range with just a few drones, and force him to move away from your buildings. When he does try to turn around and fight your drones, you can just retreat and draw him away from the target he really wants, and it is difficult for the Terran to beat your pool timing this way.

They move at the same speed, it's just that they have to re-stackattack them when re-assigning a target if I'm not mistaken.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 31 2018 05:51 GMT
#20
Most annoying use of this bug i remember was the stack repair on bunker that would make them full life in a second
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