EPTStarCraft: Remastered Open Series and Pro Series - Page 2
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
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hiro protagonist
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Echoic_
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5520 Posts
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
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Master of DalK
Canada1801 Posts
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thezanursic
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Has anyone even read the rules... I just skimmed them and unless I'm mistaken two players with less than 2000 MMR who get 1st/2nd in the Open series get put DIRECTLY into the Main Stage of the finals. Whereas all 2000+ MMR players have to duke it out in the Qualifiers in order to get to the Main Stage. Instead, they should put those players into the Qualifiers. Any player that can't even get 2000 MMR taking the place of players that are much better than them at 2000+ MMR seems a bit silly. Anyone who can't get 2000 MMR will just get a quick 0-2 in the Main Stage. The rules also state "It is forbidden to lower player’s MMR on purpose or to create a new account in order to hide player’s true level of play", but I know if I wanted to try and make the "Main Stage" I'd just enter the tournament on a smurf account that's between 1900-2000 MMR, while practicing on my main. Anyway, glad they are doing something for the community. Summary: 16 spots in the "Main Stage," 2 of which will be given to players who (according to the rules) should be people who cannot reach 2000 MMR. In reality, I'm sure they'll go to smurfs though so w/e. I think they should revise the format so there isn't any incentive to smurf (besides beating up on people not as good as you, which is already adequate incentive for some). This has the benefit of letting the lower MMR players have a fair chance at playing some competitive games in an atmosphere that is a bit more fun that a plain old ladder game, which is what the Open Series should really be about. Unfortunately, having rewards that are locked into "you must not be too good" to qualify doesn't work well unless we tie our accounts to our DNA/fingerprints or something, and bypassing what will be a tough qualifier for all but the top foreigners, is a huge incentive to smurf. Ok, I'm done typing. Promise. Ok I lied, but I'll put it in a spoiler so you don't have to read it. + Show Spoiler + Okay, so let's say I have 2025 MMR. Per the rules, I will get seeded in the qualifier vs the top MMR player (assuming at 2025, I am the lowest ranked entrant). So, I'll get to play 2 games against a known foreigner, go 0-2, had fun, done. Alternatively, lose a game or 2 and play in the Open series. (Assuming there are no smurfs, lulz) I have a chance to play other players that are sub 2000 MMR (instead of a top foreigner) for a chance at directly going to the Main Stage. tldr: I think a 2300 MMR player who is willing to play in the Qualifiers deserves to be in the Main Stage more than a 2300 MMR smurf who gets in thru the Open series. Actually... I just realized, is there any real way to stop someone from competing in both? (Obviously, they would have multiple accounts, which is easy enough.) I'm taking this too seriously I guess, but I hate abuse of the system and this is just asking for it. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
start of main stage falls directly on summer comiket, unhappy with that  will it be possible to pre-play games? (it doesnt look like it...)i also dont like the "2 max 2000 MMR players get into pro series main stage" but if you want to establish something like a 2(or more) tiered system, you have to start somewhere. "The limitation of 12 units max in the control groups should be on. Matches without this setting are not accepted." maybe im blind but i didnt know you could disable this...... (cant check for the next 5 days) swiss "triple" elimination, where you are eliminated after 2 losses (not 3?) "Maps for each match are determined by vetoes. Each player vetoes 2 maps from the map pool. The player above/on the left in the brackets starts vetoing." veto is A-B-A-B? i hope for no map pool change midway into the tournament. | ||
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Sero
United States692 Posts
The tournament will be divided into two parts. The first one will be StarCraft: Remastered Open Series, where amateur players can take part. The winners of Open Series will then join the world’s top non-Korean players to fight for glory and their part of the prize pool in StarCraft: Remastered Pro Series. The open series shouldn't seed the #1000 and #1001 ranked foreigners into a tournament against the top 14 foreigners. They won't be fighting for glory or any part of the prize pool. They'll go for a quick 0-2 and be done with it, while viewers are stuck watching one-sided and boring games. | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On June 21 2018 12:35 Sero wrote: The open series shouldn't seed the #1000 and #1001 ranked foreigners into a tournament against the top 14 foreigners. They won't be fighting for glory or any part of the prize pool. They'll go for a quick 0-2 and be done with it, while viewers are stuck watching one-sided and boring games. I was thinking the same. Why not just have a finals for the Open series and leave it at that? | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2288 Posts
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zerglingling
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angrypofke
Lithuania174 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On June 21 2018 03:38 kogeT wrote: Wow, im so hyped! Look forward to more details on this one. Please add to OP! Prize Pool - same for Open and for Pro (1500 each) The prize pool is 1,500 USD split as follows: 1st place: 600 USD 2nd place: 300 USD 3rd-4th places: 150 USD 5th-8th places: 75 USD You better win. I bet my house on you. | ||
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2609 Posts
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iFU.Redeyes
Poland3 Posts
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kaby
Russian Federation195 Posts
The limitation of 12 units max in the control groups should be on. Matches without this setting are not accepted." maybe im blind but i didnt know you could disable this...... (cant check for the next 5 days) Thank you, removed that i have a 2100 MMR account... but i don't play on that one anymore, and my main account is 1900ish MMR, where should i register? over 2k? lower than 2k? If you are playing now at 1900 MMR, register to Open Series. While checking your account, we'll see that you constantly stay at this level for a while and it will be fine. any question we will have to the players, we'll contact them via email or Discord. I suggest making the top 2 players in the "Open" series get spots in the qualifiers instead of directly to the Main Event Gonna consider this. veto is A-B-A-B? Exactly. Added this to the rules. | ||
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