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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 08:56:23
June 21 2018 08:55 GMT
#41
I have a general comment that I also raised by e-mail. A lot of players have legacy accounts from back when remastered started. When population was bigger, I was at around 2700~ peak, but as population started to drop I went back to 2450~ MMR. Since then I haven't played much or at all, as it's nearly impossible to find games. What I mean is, some players may register with their old accounts and mmr's that are not possible to achieve anymore.. I was also advised that if I rise my MMR that would guarantee me a spot in top8 for PRO series, but it's very difficult just because of the fact that there are no games to be found vs no-koreans at 2400+ level. Some players are using VPN to get games vs koreans, but I wasn't succesful for me so far.

Wouldn't it make sense to only look at the account that was active for last 3 months for example? Or maybe do a ladder stage like for BSL. :-)
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
June 21 2018 09:19 GMT
#42
Wouldn't it make sense to only look at the account that was active for last 3 months for example? Or maybe do a ladder stage like for BSL. :-)

We will definately pick the active accounts only. Ladder stage using the new accounts would solve this completely, but initially we though that it's a bad idea to make players register the new accounts and lose time raising their MMR, because most of players are adults and have things to do (work, family, etc).

Maybe we just need to set a minimum games to consider an account 'active'. Which number do you think would make sense? Maybe 50 games during last month? So players below that would have to advance via Qualifiers.
375
Profile Joined January 2018
10 Posts
June 21 2018 09:33 GMT
#43
Using a tag like SL- on ladder will make it much easier for you to manage things i think. Plus it guarantees all accounts are active/new. ZZZero utilizing this simple technique in BSL was kind of brilliant.
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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
June 21 2018 10:45 GMT
#44
Very nice Blizz
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
June 21 2018 11:12 GMT
#45
how frequently will this be held?
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 11:43:07
June 21 2018 11:18 GMT
#46
On June 21 2018 17:55 kogeT wrote:
I have a general comment that I also raised by e-mail. A lot of players have legacy accounts from back when remastered started. When population was bigger, I was at around 2700~ peak, but as population started to drop I went back to 2450~ MMR. Since then I haven't played much or at all, as it's nearly impossible to find games. What I mean is, some players may register with their old accounts and mmr's that are not possible to achieve anymore.. I was also advised that if I rise my MMR that would guarantee me a spot in top8 for PRO series, but it's very difficult just because of the fact that there are no games to be found vs no-koreans at 2400+ level. Some players are using VPN to get games vs koreans, but I wasn't succesful for me so far.

Wouldn't it make sense to only look at the account that was active for last 3 months for example? Or maybe do a ladder stage like for BSL. :-)


Absolutely agree here.

There's lot of people who have 2400++ from older accounts but the truth is, getting past 2400+ now and maintaining it is really hard.

Someone could use an old 2800 account, play a few games, lose them, and still be at 2600 and would easily qualify.

I would anticipate the "top 8" will be like 2350-2550 if we're talking active and recent accounts. Though, the strategy would be to peak really high (e.g. if you get a lucky streak to get you at 2500 and then stop playing).

That's why using a new "SL-" tag might make the most sense but REQUIRE all players to get a minimum of 50 or 60 games in their accounts.

And I get it - not everyone has time to play that much for ladder. But let's be honest here - you're not getting in the top8 if you can't play at least 50 games (on a fresh ladder acct)...
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 11:56:48
June 21 2018 11:54 GMT
#47
I agree, and also for most of top players getting to 2400 takes max 35-40 games so it shouldn't be an issue in any scenario.
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
June 21 2018 12:43 GMT
#48
how frequently will this be held?

Future seasons have not been announced, but let's see how this one will go and how much people will be attracted.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
June 21 2018 12:47 GMT
#49
So the price pool is equal to bsl4? And they have a pro and chobo league? Isn't it better for everyone if blizzard just becomes the main sponsor for bsl5? Maybe they can double whatever prize money zzzero can muster.

On the other hand, now we have two tourneys that compete with each other, our very own msl/osl. Blizzard needs to bring a lot though, before they're on par with zzzero.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
June 21 2018 13:38 GMT
#50
If the organisator is anything like the organisator of StarSeries Invitational (StarLadder hosted these CS GO events) then we can be very happy and the organisatory standards and production value will be very high, Navane. I really like BSL and ZZZero, but I am also happy that we have these guys on board Let's see how this will turn out :D
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3499 Posts
June 21 2018 14:04 GMT
#51
On June 21 2018 20:54 kogeT wrote:
I agree, and also for most of top players getting to 2400 takes max 35-40 games so it shouldn't be an issue in any scenario.


I m looking at the open series as I m way below 2000 but I agree too. May be 50 is a bit high but there should definitely be a minimum numbers of games played and i think 30 is good enough.
Having to register with a new account like for bsl is good too: easy to track where you are in relation to others, easy to add friends/practice partners around your level (since you can find their accound through starlogg). It s also quite motivating as you feel you are part of the tournament (if that makes sense?), for bsl it motivated me to keep playing.
It also helps with the admin side of things.

At any case those are great initiatives, thank you!
Horang2 fan
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 14:20:59
June 21 2018 14:20 GMT
#52
So if I haven't played on my main account for 3 months, then I can't participate in open tournament? I don't know if I should register. I have 1997 mmr currently on my main account :D
Be the change you want to see in the world.
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
June 21 2018 14:43 GMT
#53
So if I haven't played on my main account for 3 months, then I can't participate in open tournament? I don't know if I should register. I have 1997 mmr currently on my main account

Situation is tricky. Why don't you just play some games?
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
June 21 2018 15:04 GMT
#54
Ye I guess I will
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
June 21 2018 16:26 GMT
#55
i hope this tournament and the KSL culminates in a korea vs the world :D
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos254 Posts
June 21 2018 17:02 GMT
#56
Isn't the prize pool a bit small for a Blizzard sponsored tourney ?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
June 21 2018 17:42 GMT
#57
On June 22 2018 02:02 ppp87 wrote:
Isn't the prize pool a bit small for a Blizzard sponsored tourney ?


Well think about ROI. I don't see how they earn any money from it so be glad it is anything at all.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33638 Posts
June 21 2018 18:29 GMT
#58
Maybe it's time to dust off those builds from 2000 and see if anyone falls for them :o
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 18:31:20
June 21 2018 18:30 GMT
#59
Well think about Blizzard getting big through their original games Diablo, WC2 and BW. I do not think they would be such a big firm as they are without these classics and hence could at least gather some thousand dollars as a multi-billion dollar company...

Not trying to be unfair or complaining here, but ye..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
June 21 2018 18:56 GMT
#60
On June 22 2018 03:29 Waxangel wrote:
Maybe it's time to dust off those builds from 2000 and see if anyone falls for them :o


Hehe do it!

I've played a bit more recently than that... but it's still been a year and even then I wasn't playing that much. Might be fun.
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