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castleeMg
Canada786 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
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Jealous
10322 Posts
On June 26 2018 06:13 castleeMg wrote: Lol that guy says cadenZie is skilled from what he’s seen and asks if she has social media links and gets warned, there must be some real weirdo white knight mods on this site, aside from that good luck in kr. The best part is that Cadenzie has connected her alias to her Facebook account it seems like, as it is the first hit when you Google "Cadenzie." So, the mods warned him for asking for publicly available information? I wonder if someone asked the same thing about someone like Dewalt or eonzerg, if there would be a similar ruling. | ||
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TonDan
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CHEONSOYUN
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let's try not to act typical | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Jealous
10322 Posts
On June 26 2018 11:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote: females never get taken seriously or given any respect by "gamers" let's try not to act typical I don't think anyone disrespected Cadenzie. Hence why the discussion about the warning happened in the first place. But, moving on... Frankly I'm happy that there is a foreigner playing on Afreeca and in a league with progamers. Regardless of how that came to be, I think that this is monumental given that I don't recall any foreigner or anyone we had direct access to (outside of Scan) being in such a position since the time of Idra. | ||
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
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Jealous
10322 Posts
On June 26 2018 17:48 kogeT wrote: Does anyone have kogets fb? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Reported. | ||
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
On June 26 2018 11:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote: females never get taken seriously or given any respect by "gamers" let's try not to act typical No hypocrisy in generalizing all gamers with the broadest brush in the toolkit. Anyways, I'm excited that a foreigner is competing with Koreans like the good old days. Not only that, but Cadenzie is one of the A tiers from what we can tell at the moment. For what it's worth, I can translate any Ygosu posts or whatever else comes up that's relevant. | ||
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ggsimida
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On June 26 2018 19:51 RWLabs wrote: No hypocrisy in generalizing all gamers with the broadest brush in the toolkit. Anyways, I'm excited that a foreigner is competing with Koreans like the good old days. Not only that, but Cadenzie is one of the A tiers from what we can tell at the moment. For what it's worth, I can translate any Ygosu posts or whatever else comes up that's relevant. Cadenzie is pretty good, yes, no doubt. But for me, female or male, doesn't matter -- if you're good you're good. I think most can agree to this point. Though, I'm sure there are folks who will try to make a comment like this: "well, she's great ... for a girl! ... she's one of best the in korea, for a girl!" -- this is just bad logic and mindset. This isn't physical sports where gender could potentially matter. It's a video game. (I'm sure you could argue some non sense like males are more interested in video games, it's a cultural thing, etc -- but let's not start arguing about random shit like that right now...) Anyways, since I'm all for equality, I will make a very factual statement -- she's not "one of the A tiers" lol. She's pretty good, yes. But A tier? She couldn't get out of chobo league or advance too far in it. I'm just calling a spade a spade. And if you meant, "A-tier for a girl in Korea" -- then you're proving my point. Once again, yes she is pretty good. But let's not start over-hyping skill because she's a female. As I said, your skill shouldn't be "Hyped" because of your gender. Are we sitting here calling the remaining top-4 chobo league participants "A tier"? With this being said, she could very well become "A tier" or even S tier since she's getting pro training now. I'm glad there's someone in the foreigner scene who is getting this type of access. But I won't sit here and try to make it seem like she's better than she is (in her current form) just because "she's a girl." And don't misconstrue this post as some form of hatred. I know she's pretty good, but I'm simply rating her against the rest of foreigners. On the flip side, if she does eventually become A tier/S tier, we should equally give her credit at that point and say "She's an amazing player." And NOT "She's an amazing player for a girl" -- it works both ways. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2752 Posts
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SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
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CHEONSOYUN
590 Posts
On June 26 2018 19:51 RWLabs wrote: No hypocrisy in generalizing all gamers with the broadest brush in the toolkit. If you look at most "competitive" video game communities and wherever that community congregates online, almost anytime a female is presented in the role outside of "accepted roles" (such as host/stargirl), the following discussion is almost always weird, overly self conscious, and filled with X Y and Z opinions/stances on what constitutes legitimacy when a female is present. It is a generalization, but strangely enough it seems to be continiously self evident. | ||
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
On June 26 2018 22:58 CHEONSOYUN wrote: If you look at most "competitive" video game communities and wherever that community congregates online, almost anytime a female is presented in the role outside of "accepted roles" (such as host/stargirl), the following discussion is almost always weird, overly self conscious, and filled with X Y and Z opinions/stances on what constitutes legitimacy when a female is present. It is a generalization, but strangely enough it seems to be continiously self evident. Anecdotal evidence can be countered by anecdotal evidence. Well I hang out at Ygosu, and during the HSL people were degrading the players for being bad (which they objectively were), or not practicing, but not for being female. Sure there were the guys who were acting overly close to them (the term is 물소), but that's true of any female streamer, not just gamers. I don't know which communities you hang out in, but most of the gamers I talk to don't care if you're female or male, as long as you're not a turd online. But by the virtue of being "gamers" apparently we're monsters that don't respect women. The issue is that instead of criticizing the people who act oddly, you lump all of us into the mix. And I rather don't like being accused of being a turd. | ||
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-Debaser-
United States329 Posts
On June 26 2018 17:48 kogeT wrote: Does anyone have kogets fb? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link ur ig I wanna see those shirtless mirror selfies  | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
590 Posts
On June 26 2018 23:10 RWLabs wrote: Anecdotal evidence can be countered by anecdotal evidence. Well I hang out at Ygosu, and during the HSL people were degrading the players for being bad (which they objectively were), or not practicing, but not for being female. Sure there were the guys who were acting overly close to them (the term is 물소), but that's true of any female streamer, not just gamers. I don't know which communities you hang out in, but most of the gamers I talk to don't care if you're female or male, as long as you're not a turd online. But by the virtue of being "gamers" apparently we're monsters that don't respect women. The issue is that instead of criticizing the people who act oddly, you lump all of us into the mix. And I rather don't like being accused of being a turd. why are you taking this so personally? | ||
Waxangel
United States33613 Posts
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angrypofke
Lithuania174 Posts
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