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On May 16 2007 17:48 JimBobRay wrote:
I have mine cranked up to max on a 800 dpi mouse and although I can move fast across the screen (3-4 cm, I estimate, maybe less) my accuracy is low - I have a hard time selecting peons in the beginning, misclicking and hitting 2 at once. (I am not sure how that even happens sometimes...)
you select 2 peons when you dont release the mouse button quick enough, it creates a drag box even if you cant see it. Try tapping the button and releasing it as quickly as you can. You will know you are doing it right when you can move the mouse across the screen while clicking and not create any drag boxes, or at least very few small ones.
I use an 800 DPI logitech, max windows sensativity and 9 logitech, no accel.
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800 DPI A4tech, max windows sensitivity.
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On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:You should always put your mouse at highest dpi. I don't get people that say you can't control it. That's ridiculous. Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential. You might say just for the better stock tracking but that's hardly THAT much of a difference. Just lower your sens and it'll feel the same as 400 or whatever. It is very very easy to get used to 1600 or more dpi, hell I'd expect at least that much from people at a starcraft forum. The only times you should use around 400 dpi is if you're an artist or something and you need very specific detail. Edit: Also it's important to use the highest hertz of your mouse as well. Most usb ports limit this. Refer to this extremely helpful thread, works for most newer mice: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41584 I bought my Razer because it's a good brand. Its design is superior to most (if not all) mouse manufacturers.
:O Logitech is a good company 
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Logitech owns all. But seriously, why use lower dpi and higher sensitivity when you can use higher dpi (increased accuracy) and lower sensitivity?
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On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:You should always put your mouse at highest dpi. I don't get people that say you can't control it. That's ridiculous. Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential. You might say just for the better stock tracking but that's hardly THAT much of a difference. Just lower your sens and it'll feel the same as 400 or whatever. It is very very easy to get used to 1600 or more dpi, hell I'd expect at least that much from people at a starcraft forum. The only times you should use around 400 dpi is if you're an artist or something and you need very specific detail. Edit: Also it's important to use the highest hertz of your mouse as well. Most usb ports limit this. Refer to this extremely helpful thread, works for most newer mice: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41584 I bought my Razer because it's a good brand. Its design is superior to most (if not all) mouse manufacturers. I've experimented with all sorts of different speeds from max (1600) to about 400. Interestingly enough, I found that I play better on 400 than I do on 1600. But I ended up settling at around 800. You don't buy mice just for the DPI. You buy it for the ergonomics, the quality, the feel. btw my mouse is set to 1000 Hz ~_~
This topic is about mouse DPI. No where did I mention that you only buy a mouse for the dpi. I simply said if you happen to have a mouse with adjustable dpi you should always use it at highest.
Your reply is a fail.
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[QUOTE]On May 17 2007 00:04 TheosEx wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 16 2007 20:36 Zanno wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 16 2007 17:51 TheosEx wrote:
Therefore, it was necessary to have high sensitivity to be able to constantly monitor all 360 degrees. Games were so much more fast paced back then too. I noticed that when I left, clan matches started to get really slow (i.e. terrorist teams literally crawling to the bomb location on de_ maps). People also started to get really good with AKs and M4s to the point where a sniper could get sniped himself with one. I don't know if I can really explain all of this that well, but I kid you not... that's what my sensitivity was.[/QUOTE]sounds like pub nub matches to me, anyone in cal will tell you otherwise
i'm not trying to be a dick, but using a sens that hight is the starcraft equvalient trying to play never using a single hotkey. you might be able to win here or there, but you'll never hit your full potential.
if you need to rotate quickly you sweep your arm really fast. i'd go find a video of professional cs players (they sweep their mouse in a huge line if they need to do a quick 180) but i'm stuck on dialup till saturday. the low sens is necessary because a matter of 1 or 2 pixels can make the difference between a hit or a miss.
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Using 2000DPI and 4/10 mouse sensitivity on a Logitech G5. It's quite fast but I got used to it.
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Mouse I have right now: Razer Copperhead
Mouse I want to buy: Logitech MX Revolution
I bought my new Copperhead for only $35. I think they're still at about $60 normally. I usually play with finger mouses, but I keep thinking that maybe palm mouses are the way to go for me. However, I've tried out the G5 and didn't like it that much.
$30 G5 for those of you interested:
http://spoofee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=297359
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i hate palm mouses...
looks like you're playing with a toy car...
razer > logitech ;P
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On May 17 2007 09:08 Ack1027 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:You should always put your mouse at highest dpi. I don't get people that say you can't control it. That's ridiculous. Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential. You might say just for the better stock tracking but that's hardly THAT much of a difference. Just lower your sens and it'll feel the same as 400 or whatever. It is very very easy to get used to 1600 or more dpi, hell I'd expect at least that much from people at a starcraft forum. The only times you should use around 400 dpi is if you're an artist or something and you need very specific detail. Edit: Also it's important to use the highest hertz of your mouse as well. Most usb ports limit this. Refer to this extremely helpful thread, works for most newer mice: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41584 I bought my Razer because it's a good brand. Its design is superior to most (if not all) mouse manufacturers. I've experimented with all sorts of different speeds from max (1600) to about 400. Interestingly enough, I found that I play better on 400 than I do on 1600. But I ended up settling at around 800. You don't buy mice just for the DPI. You buy it for the ergonomics, the quality, the feel. btw my mouse is set to 1000 Hz ~_~ This topic is about mouse DPI. No where did I mention that you only buy a mouse for the dpi. I simply said if you happen to have a mouse with adjustable dpi you should always use it at highest. Your reply is a fail.
On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:
Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential.
I wasn't aware that a mouse's full potential only included its DPI. -__-
This is a response to that particular statement.
On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:
You don't buy mice just for the DPI. You buy it for the ergonomics, the quality, the feel.
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Keep it on topic please
Thanks to some of the great and informative responses so far.
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I just noticed that the MX310 is only capable of 800dpi.I could have sworn it was 1600. That means this fucking bulky piece of shit MX518 is actually better. I wonder if I can switch the shells on the mice. That would be leet.
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[QUOTE]On May 17 2007 09:15 Zanno wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 17 2007 00:04 TheosEx wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 16 2007 20:36 Zanno wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 16 2007 17:51 TheosEx wrote:
Therefore, it was necessary to have high sensitivity to be able to constantly monitor all 360 degrees. Games were so much more fast paced back then too. I noticed that when I left, clan matches started to get really slow (i.e. terrorist teams literally crawling to the bomb location on de_ maps). People also started to get really good with AKs and M4s to the point where a sniper could get sniped himself with one. I don't know if I can really explain all of this that well, but I kid you not... that's what my sensitivity was.[/QUOTE]sounds like pub nub matches to me, anyone in cal will tell you otherwise
i'm not trying to be a dick, but using a sens that hight is the starcraft equvalient trying to play never using a single hotkey. you might be able to win here or there, but you'll never hit your full potential.
if you need to rotate quickly you sweep your arm really fast. i'd go find a video of professional cs players (they sweep their mouse in a huge line if they need to do a quick 180) but i'm stuck on dialup till saturday. the low sens is necessary because a matter of 1 or 2 pixels can make the difference between a hit or a miss.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, the times has changed. Trust me, I know how to play CS. Yes, I made references to public matches, but who the hell plays CS purely for private clan matches. You will get either extremely bored or will never get that good to begin with. I don't know how long you've been playing CS, but there's been a ton of changes, since the first version, to 1.5, to Condition Zero, to Source. Back when I played in 1.3, when you could still get snipe hits while jumping... it was a totally different game. Anyways, there's alot more to CS than just mouse accuracy, DPI, sensitivity, and even resolution/pixels. You have to be good at interpreting sounds, have a good understanding of strategy, geometry, have fast fingers, and extremely good coordination.
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It amaze me how most people don't seem to care about about buttons. I love my mx510 because it has 8 buttons including the mouse wheel. Having 8 easy to acces hotkey mean you can focus so much more on 1234567890 in a rts and wasd in a mmo/shooter. The speed increase you get from near instant actions beat the microseconds you get from a sightly faster and more accurate pointer. hotkeys>ergonomics>dpi
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On May 17 2007 12:24 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2007 09:08 Ack1027 wrote:On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:You should always put your mouse at highest dpi. I don't get people that say you can't control it. That's ridiculous. Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential. You might say just for the better stock tracking but that's hardly THAT much of a difference. Just lower your sens and it'll feel the same as 400 or whatever. It is very very easy to get used to 1600 or more dpi, hell I'd expect at least that much from people at a starcraft forum. The only times you should use around 400 dpi is if you're an artist or something and you need very specific detail. Edit: Also it's important to use the highest hertz of your mouse as well. Most usb ports limit this. Refer to this extremely helpful thread, works for most newer mice: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41584 I bought my Razer because it's a good brand. Its design is superior to most (if not all) mouse manufacturers. I've experimented with all sorts of different speeds from max (1600) to about 400. Interestingly enough, I found that I play better on 400 than I do on 1600. But I ended up settling at around 800. You don't buy mice just for the DPI. You buy it for the ergonomics, the quality, the feel. btw my mouse is set to 1000 Hz ~_~ This topic is about mouse DPI. No where did I mention that you only buy a mouse for the dpi. I simply said if you happen to have a mouse with adjustable dpi you should always use it at highest. Your reply is a fail. Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:
Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential. I wasn't aware that a mouse's full potential only included its DPI. -__- This is a response to that particular statement. Show nested quote +On May 16 2007 18:57 infinity21 wrote:
You don't buy mice just for the DPI. You buy it for the ergonomics, the quality, the feel.
I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
On May 16 2007 18:48 Ack1027 wrote:
Why did you bother buying the mouse anyway if you aren't even gonna use it's full potential.
Refers to it's dpi potential in context.
Besides, other than very recently for the weight, could you CHANGE the shape , quality, and feel of a mouse?
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Oh, another comment. If you're playing Starcraft, you really don't need more than 800 DPI. It's different for other games.
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On May 17 2007 14:54 davidgurt wrote:
Oh, another comment. If you're playing Starcraft, you really don't need more than 800 DPI. It's different for other games. all the quality sensors just happen to be high dpi though, cheap mice tend to have other problems with skipping, negative acceleration (when you move a mouse so fast it can't keep up and caps off the speed) and generally unreliable tracking
negative accel is hugely prevalent virtually all mice that ship with a new pc, when i visit my parents for the weekend i can't play sc with my their mouse at all, i try to whip my mouse around a bunch in a battle requiring heavy heavy micro and i end up only halfway there or sometimes in a totally different direction. my diamondback doesn't have these sort of problems, it goes where i tell it to
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I created (kind of long ago) this thread where people could post what mouse they had and post some feedback, I can't find it though ;p.
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2000 DPI, 1000 rep/sec (at least that's what I think the setting is for? >_<) and max sensitivity and zero acceleration using a Logitech G3.
I'm fast, inaccurate and have mediocre apm!
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