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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51628 Posts
February 10 2018 00:09 GMT
#41
from what i've gathered draco doesn't play anymore
Commentator
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
February 10 2018 00:11 GMT
#42
On February 10 2018 09:09 GTR wrote:
from what i've gathered draco doesn't play anymore

Really? That blows!
Matt Sherman
Profile Joined December 2017
14 Posts
February 10 2018 00:31 GMT
#43
On February 09 2018 13:56 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:33 Matt Sherman wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:10 Sero wrote:
Is anyone able to type in Korean since the update? It won't switch to hangul for me in channel, lobby, or game anymore, but it was working fine last night.


Can you provide the exact version of Windows you are on.. e.g. Windows 10 version 1703

1)Click the Windows button at the bottom left of your screen
2)Open settings
3)Go to about

cheers,

-Matt

Blizzard employee tech support in the TL thread? Pretty crazy historically.

And welcome.



Greetings,

Yeah, I'm a Producer on the Classic Games team focused on SCR. We are working hard to pinpoint the root cause of this IME issue. I'm hoping to get a hotfix out asap.

-Matt
Blizzard
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
February 10 2018 02:59 GMT
#44
On February 09 2018 21:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
here is a video with pretty much the struggle of everyone i guess ? stats not showing,playing games with terrible lag,playing vs players with 1600 mmr even if you are using 2500 mmr id etc.



This is a huge huge issue, current ladder is nearly unplayable. The max MMR differential is stupid high now. You can get matched with a 1500 as a 2200 and get +0 points for a win. This is a waste of time for both players.
TL+ Member
fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-10 05:02:21
February 10 2018 04:44 GMT
#45
vpn to korea is broken ladder now. i have not lost a game yet, it matches me only to americans. 2600 mmr for me, highest opponent mmr was 1600

still, i am happy they try to progress
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mca64__________
Profile Joined January 2018
Poland6 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-10 07:00:36
February 10 2018 06:59 GMT
#46
On February 10 2018 09:31 Matt Sherman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 13:56 Danglars wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:33 Matt Sherman wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:10 Sero wrote:
Is anyone able to type in Korean since the update? It won't switch to hangul for me in channel, lobby, or game anymore, but it was working fine last night.


Can you provide the exact version of Windows you are on.. e.g. Windows 10 version 1703

1)Click the Windows button at the bottom left of your screen
2)Open settings
3)Go to about

cheers,

-Matt

Blizzard employee tech support in the TL thread? Pretty crazy historically.

And welcome.



Greetings,

Yeah, I'm a Producer on the Classic Games team focused on SCR. We are working hard to pinpoint the root cause of this IME issue. I'm hoping to get a hotfix out asap.

-Matt


Hi, add units count tab for a replays/ observer games. Also adds possibility to see what is in buildings in observer mode.


PS Remove "Blizzard" from your quote. Its a shame and a disgrace to work there and what are you doings with best game ever called StarCraft!



User was banned for this post.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
February 10 2018 07:05 GMT
#47
On February 10 2018 15:59 mca64__________ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 09:31 Matt Sherman wrote:
On February 09 2018 13:56 Danglars wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:33 Matt Sherman wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:10 Sero wrote:
Is anyone able to type in Korean since the update? It won't switch to hangul for me in channel, lobby, or game anymore, but it was working fine last night.


Can you provide the exact version of Windows you are on.. e.g. Windows 10 version 1703

1)Click the Windows button at the bottom left of your screen
2)Open settings
3)Go to about

cheers,

-Matt

Blizzard employee tech support in the TL thread? Pretty crazy historically.

And welcome.



Greetings,

Yeah, I'm a Producer on the Classic Games team focused on SCR. We are working hard to pinpoint the root cause of this IME issue. I'm hoping to get a hotfix out asap.

-Matt


Hi, add units count tab for a replays/ observer games. Also adds possibility to see what is in buildings in observer mode.


PS Remove "Blizzard" from your quote. Its a shame and a disgrace to work there and what are you doings with best game ever called StarCraft!


Thats the most entitled post I've seen in a long time.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1121 Posts
February 10 2018 08:58 GMT
#48
On February 09 2018 16:19 psd wrote:
Iccup was free and worked just fine.

Remastered wasn't and is not even close to being finished.

Why would we be happy ?


iccup ratings were a joke

I went 8-0 against an A- iccup player who only played D players. Unfortunately for him, I was C rank on my account on the previous season. He was awful. At most 1600 skill on Remastered ladder.
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
February 10 2018 09:25 GMT
#49
Can't look for player in ladder ranking. I enter players name and nothing happens. I remember it was working some time ago hahah
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
February 10 2018 12:06 GMT
#50
On February 10 2018 17:58 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 16:19 psd wrote:
Iccup was free and worked just fine.

Remastered wasn't and is not even close to being finished.

Why would we be happy ?


iccup ratings were a joke

I went 8-0 against an A- iccup player who only played D players. Unfortunately for him, I was C rank on my account on the previous season. He was awful. At most 1600 skill on Remastered ladder.

That's after they changed the ladder system though. Ratings were pretty accurate before the change, and they used to moderate ladder abuse like playing vs lower ranks.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 10 2018 12:23 GMT
#51
so far so good. I have no problem with this patch and latency has been stable since the previous patch. matchmaking is a godsend. I can't imagine going back to mass whispering for matches.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
February 10 2018 15:07 GMT
#52
On February 10 2018 06:37 TOIHOIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 06:30 B-royal wrote:
On February 09 2018 13:39 Golgotha wrote:
Chill. They are trying to fix what people were complaining the most about: latency. I guess people will scream no matter what this dev team does


On February 09 2018 16:04 Qikz wrote:
On February 09 2018 13:39 Golgotha wrote:
Chill. They are trying to fix what people were complaining the most about: latency. I guess people will scream no matter what this dev team does


Thats what I don't get either.

People were complaining about lag so they do something about it, but then that makes MMR less of a consideration and now that's an issue. People are never going to be happy about anything.


Yeah it's so outrageous. Then again, I distinctly remember putting down money for a fully functional product, not a beta test.

It is fully functional. Every game has bugs occasionally


Occasionally? Oh that was a good one! :D
Total Annihilation Zero
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 10 2018 16:28 GMT
#53
Yeah the ladder is ridiculous atm. I played a guy with fucking 80 apm, and then my next game I was playing someone 300 mmr above me/250 apm korean. Wut.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3701 Posts
February 10 2018 16:34 GMT
#54
*sigh* Guess I'll be sticking to custom games for a while longer. It feels like it has been a month since ladder was playable.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
February 10 2018 17:15 GMT
#55
On February 09 2018 16:04 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 13:39 Golgotha wrote:
Chill. They are trying to fix what people were complaining the most about: latency. I guess people will scream no matter what this dev team does


Thats what I don't get either.

People were complaining about lag so they do something about it, but then that makes MMR less of a consideration and now that's an issue. People are never going to be happy about anything.

that's kinda expected as the game still isn't completed half a year after release.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
February 10 2018 22:21 GMT
#56
I dont know if was mentioned, but many players incl. myself have problems joining custom games. You just can an error "unable to join". I think it has something to do with this new download from cloud feature or w/e it is.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland744 Posts
February 10 2018 23:24 GMT
#57
Laddering is pretty pointless after this patch, the new ladder system might be good with areas with lots of people but its really bad for areas with a lesser density of players.

Playing the same guy for 2 hours on ladder, going 6-1 and not getting any mmr is great. What a patch.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
TOIHOIs
Profile Joined February 2018
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-10 23:40:13
February 10 2018 23:39 GMT
#58
On February 11 2018 08:24 Ikirouta wrote:
Laddering is pretty pointless after this patch, the new ladder system might be good with areas with lots of people but its really bad for areas with a lesser density of players.

Playing the same guy for 2 hours on ladder, going 6-1 and not getting any mmr is great. What a patch.

So they have to patch in more player?

On February 11 2018 02:15 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 16:04 Qikz wrote:
On February 09 2018 13:39 Golgotha wrote:
Chill. They are trying to fix what people were complaining the most about: latency. I guess people will scream no matter what this dev team does


Thats what I don't get either.

People were complaining about lag so they do something about it, but then that makes MMR less of a consideration and now that's an issue. People are never going to be happy about anything.

that's kinda expected as the game still isn't completed half a year after release.

There is something like a complete online game?
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland744 Posts
February 11 2018 00:07 GMT
#59
On February 11 2018 08:39 TOIHOIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 08:24 Ikirouta wrote:
Laddering is pretty pointless after this patch, the new ladder system might be good with areas with lots of people but its really bad for areas with a lesser density of players.

Playing the same guy for 2 hours on ladder, going 6-1 and not getting any mmr is great. What a patch.

So they have to patch in more player?

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 02:15 niteReloaded wrote:
On February 09 2018 16:04 Qikz wrote:
On February 09 2018 13:39 Golgotha wrote:
Chill. They are trying to fix what people were complaining the most about: latency. I guess people will scream no matter what this dev team does


Thats what I don't get either.

People were complaining about lag so they do something about it, but then that makes MMR less of a consideration and now that's an issue. People are never going to be happy about anything.

that's kinda expected as the game still isn't completed half a year after release.

There is something like a complete online game?


No, just make the ladder prioritize equal skill level instead of ping.
Most people don't mind playing slightly laggy games if the skill level is equal, nobody is having fun if the games are roflstomps.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 11 2018 17:08 GMT
#60
There has to be some kind of relationship between figures they get prior to a game, and the expected turn rate that will be used in the game, right? They should just adjust the bottom floor; no connections that cant sustain tr 12, or something. I could play koreans just fine before-- but now I play the bottom or the top of the ladder every other match.
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