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34T-9Z-7P in SCR Ladder Top 50

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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 07:27:24
December 16 2017 07:25 GMT
#1
https://starlog.gg/en/leaderboard
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/StarCraft_Remastered_Ladder

9 Korea chobodari 3402 Zerg 317 172 (Hero)
13 Korea Bisuvvvv 3378 Protoss 198 95 (Bisu)
14 Korea hamburgerzerg 3373 Zerg 150 74 (dream.t)nongmin)
15 Korea wGm.111 3361 Protoss 149 54 (Snow)
18 Korea ggaechobo 3345 Zerg 675 534 (Ggaemo)
19 Korea VoVoVoVoVoVoVoV 3339 Protoss 201 109 (???)
21 Korea vBisuv 3334 Protoss 179 73 (Bisu)
22 Korea wGm.Shine 3321 Zerg 297 188 (Shine)
25 Korea insung.byuk 3310 Zerg 137 49 (Soulkey)
27 Korea ggaemoda 3297 Zerg 147 61 (Ggaemo)
30 Korea GOMSUJANG 3281 Zerg 141 42 (Hero)
33 Korea ReadyCash 3260 Zerg 200 131 (???)
34 Korea InSung.mOvie 3248 Protoss 178 105 (Movie)
45 Korea xuanyi 3201 Zerg 319 215 (Savior?)
46 Korea lllllllllIlI 3199 Protoss 210 113 (Bisu)
47 Korea yseongmin 3198 Protoss 185 108 (???)
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 09:36:44
December 16 2017 09:33 GMT
#2
are u trying to imply something
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
December 16 2017 10:00 GMT
#3
I was talking about this like month ago.

top50 world: 34 terrans
top100 world: 68 terrans
top200 world: 109 terrans


...
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8339 Posts
December 16 2017 10:14 GMT
#4
yes~ i saw that too ~ moneyking and mind are first and second place! and that is for a long time now
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
December 16 2017 10:29 GMT
#5
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
December 16 2017 10:43 GMT
#6
On December 16 2017 19:29 ZeroChrome wrote:
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.


To be fair the ASL maps were insanely zerg favored tho, especially in ZvT.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 16 2017 11:07 GMT
#7
On December 16 2017 18:33 TT1 wrote:
are u trying to imply something


Te-sa-..... ah, nvm xD
Broodwar for life!
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3396 Posts
December 16 2017 11:52 GMT
#8
You mean 4P and one bisu
Horang2 fan
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 12:12:25
December 16 2017 12:11 GMT
#9
On December 16 2017 19:29 ZeroChrome wrote:
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.


each player plays a max of like 10 games vs accounts in the hundreds of games. Maybe you should think longer
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
December 16 2017 13:53 GMT
#10
I have a post that about this topic, it's a vietnamese language but you can view picture to understand my opinion.

HERE

In short: T = P = Z almost cases but If you want to become top 1 on the world, let's think about change your race to Terran.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
December 16 2017 14:08 GMT
#11
Once flash joins the military the game is going to look stupidly imbalanced in favor of Zerg.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 14:30:41
December 16 2017 14:30 GMT
#12
Sponbang ELO Top 10
May: 5Z-3P-2T
June: 5Z-3P-2T
July: 4T-3Z-3P
August: 5Z-3P-2T
September: 5Z-3T-2P
October: 4Z-3P-3T
November: 4T-3Z-3P
December: 4T-3Z-3P

Conclusion: 저사기 =D
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
December 16 2017 14:55 GMT
#13
did u take note of double/triple id's ..? remember the days when last was #1,2 and 5th of fish ladder hehe
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland572 Posts
December 16 2017 15:03 GMT
#14
so are the other races, just look #1 to see Bisu 3 times
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#15
Nostalgia, Arcadia, fs and cb had a significant hand in this I’m sure.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 17:14:44
December 16 2017 17:12 GMT
#16
On December 17 2017 00:03 Bonyth wrote:
so are the other races, just look #1 to see Bisu 3 times


the terran lineup on afreeca has always been incredible solid and dominant if u payed attention like before the time effort/jaedong/soulkey cameback to bw the lineup was simple more packed and of a higher tier pro gamers so just for anyone else if you wish to draw conclusions from this try to make an in depth analysis not just looking at a few ranks on a ladder
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 17:36:27
December 16 2017 17:34 GMT
#17
On December 16 2017 19:43 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 19:29 ZeroChrome wrote:
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.


To be fair the ASL maps were insanely zerg favored tho, especially in ZvT.

If you compare the ASL map to other map pools have done worse, how can you tell which is more balanced?
Edit: Honest question, I'm not trying to lead you into a trap. Unless player skills are glaringly disparate, player skill (resp. map balance) can only be evaluated when map balance (resp. player skill) is known, right?
May the BeSt man win.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-17 00:22:13
December 17 2017 00:21 GMT
#18
On December 16 2017 19:43 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 19:29 ZeroChrome wrote:
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.


To be fair the ASL maps were insanely zerg favored tho, especially in ZvT.

Which only proves race balance is not inherent and universal but a result of the popular map pool, which currently is still heavily leaning towards FS, which is a Terran-favoured map, and CB, which is not bad for Terran, at the very least.
Would be interesting to see what would happen if Blizzard kicked those two and added the ASL maps instead (and Outlier, Central District and Battle Royale on top, to really get the ball rolling).

Player skill levels and map balance cannot really both be judged at the same time. It's a bit like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Trying to measure the one will always interfere with the other. However, given a large enough player pool it is probably safer to assume that skill levels are evenly distributed and that map statistics with significant numbers of games can therefore be used to assess map balance.
And in comes the "but more skilled or ambitious players are more likely to play the more challenging race (Terran)"-argument. But I don't think there is actually any evidence to back this up.
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
December 17 2017 00:33 GMT
#19
Yes please! Lets balance BW with the same principle we balance sc2! 30% top ladder distribution for every race and equal tournament performance! Trust Blizzard in balancing this!
aka Kalevi
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
December 17 2017 02:05 GMT
#20
On December 16 2017 21:11 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 19:29 ZeroChrome wrote:
2T-4Z-2P in ASL4 Ro8.

Really makes me think.


each player plays a max of like 10 games vs accounts in the hundreds of games. Maybe you should think longer


and what do you think about the hundreds of sponsored games that result in zerg more often than not having the most top 10 players in ELO?

maybe you are the one who should be thinking.

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