On December 16 2017 11:11 ReachTheSky wrote: They need to do away with this "oldboys club" bs. I don't want to watch players that haven't put up results in ages. I want to see the current top talent. Guess i'm not tuning in.
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im with you 100%,
on the other side day9, tasteless, artosis, and incontrol,need to make more money of this game, before blizzard makes another game and they forget about BW and start talking about how the new title is the best game ever made and shit.
they are going to quit the scene, again... when theres nothing left.
On December 17 2017 19:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: best lineup of favourite players/casters/personalities THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE
EDIT: i dont see this as a "real" competition, rather than an entertainment event with people who can produce fun stuff. As a twitch viewer i'm all for jokes and BGH4v4 with WhiteRa going mass dark archons. Has nothing to do with the skill of existing foreign pros, because, lets me honest, they would not produce similar contents, it would be completely different thing.
You're definitely right. This is just a fun, casual event, and I really can't see why these whiners are
On December 16 2017 08:51 GTR wrote: $6,000 prize pool.
On December 16 2017 09:30 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: What a reality check,been a top foreigner player after sc2 cames out means shit.since remastered 4 big events been made,not a single top foreigner was invited.
Hey, look on the bright side, eventually SC3 will get released and everyone will flock to it. Then few years after that, StarCraft Remastered: Remastered will be made and you will be invited to its tournaments instead of people who didn't switch to SC3.
He's not mad that he doesn't get to play despite sticking to Brood War. He's mad that players who are much worse than he is (except maybe Draco) get to goof off for 6000.
Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget (JUST KIDDING ) that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
obviously twitch have sole discretion to hold whatever kind of tournament they want, but dismissing fan opinions as "entitlement" misses the point completely.
On December 18 2017 05:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
Who dislikes Koget? One of the most mannered players I've seen and friendly in twitch chat etc. Also wasn't he a last minute replacement for dewalt because of visa issues?
On December 18 2017 05:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
Who dislikes Koget? One of the most mannered players I've seen and friendly in twitch chat etc. Also wasn't he a last minute replacement for dewalt because of visa issues?
it is a joke,i will edit and make it clear that it is a joke.obviously a joke is not fun if i have to explain it.
For a prize pool of this size, it would have been nice to potentially have it given to players who are practicing and giving up a good amount of their time to keep their skills sharp. I understand the organizers ultimately can do whatever they want since it's their money, but I feel bad for people who are practicing hard and could provide good entertainment through solid play. Definitely not trying to bash the event, though. I'll more than likely tune in because I enjoy the banter, commentary, and stories by the old guys.
I also understand personality is a drawing factor, but I've found that events like these are actually a really good time to bring in some new faces/people that might not be as well known to the community from a personality standpoint. I enjoy watching Smash, Dota2, and CS:GO, and the Summit tournaments are one of my favorites to watch because we get to see a side of players that is hard to capture in another tournament setting. Of course, there are people who want to see and hear from people who have established themselves in the BW scene already. I know I definitely enjoy having Day9, Tastosis, and Inc on the couch. But I hope future event organizers won't be so hesitant to invite some unknowns or lesser knowns to events like these.
But I am grateful to be able to enjoy another BW event like this. Hope it goes well!
iNcholesteroL again? Mr. OutOfControl you say? Nah, I pass. It's nice to see Draco, WhiteRa and NoNy but don't get why some ex SC2 pros get invite over current BW pros? You guys are out of your minds if you ask me.
Ill tune in to watch if I can. Its not the players I would choose, but I am not choosing, or putting down the cash, so I will shut up and thank you for hosting the event.
On December 18 2017 05:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget (JUST KIDDING ) that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
We (me, you, bonyth, trutacz, terror, dandy etc etc) can fold for 10 dollars and make a tournament with each other. Prize pool will be a hundred times smaller, but the quality of the game is ten times better And since in this topic I see the interest of some people in such a show, maybe someone else will be able to support
I'll tune to watch and believe that such exposure is great for the scene as a whole. It can bring new sponsors and investors! There aren't such opportunities with the established events known to us.
I hope in the new year the organizers of such tournaments will try to navigate throughout the community and stop relying so much on the old-school members. I like seeing the old names from time to time but there are so many people who kept this scene alive in the last 7 years - they DO DESERVE to get some fame for being the experts in the scene and the people all are looking at!
The upsetting part is that whoever is big enough to not need the others for marketing or organizational purposes the organizers most probably won't reach out to anyone else. I hope this will be disproved in 2018!
there will be a StarCraft Remastered 1v1 8-player invitational with a $6,000 prize pool
I get the community portion, I get wanting a tournament/esports portion, but don't mix them. If you're going to have a tournament, invite the best; if you're going to have a community focused nostalgia fest, bring the oldies in my all means, but don't put such a large prize pool that would go a long way among the foreign amateur community, just pay some appearance fees and maybe have a token $100 prize.
On December 18 2017 05:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget (JUST KIDDING ) that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
We (me, you, bonyth, trutacz, terror, dandy etc etc) can fold for 10 dollars and make a tournament with each other. Prize pool will be a hundred times smaller, but the quality of the game is ten times better And since in this topic I see the interest of some people in such a show, maybe someone else will be able to support
I'd be interested in working and pitching on a big 2018 event. Maybe we can get everyone who wants to contribute into a discord channel and discuss it.
Uh... what did I walk into when I joined this thread?
Even though I wish we could have the best (foreign) players play in a tournament, we can't keep complaining about it every time there are organizers making their own event with invites. And that's all I'll say about that...
On December 18 2017 05:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Honestly i didnt see the prize of the whole thing or even read the details,i knew a last year event was coming cuz draco said he was invited on his stream,the first thing i saw was the list of players in the top and posted a picture then that post,i actually understand now that for this specific event and what they wanna do it makes perfect sense,im not angry but im sad,very actually,incontrol said something very interesting,ask some folk what it takes,and in was gonna answer him well i have a section here on tl to help noobs,before remastered i gave replaypack from fish server and thx to'zimp'they were organized by reps vs pros,i streamed for the last years for the bw community,i donate to progamers streams and also donate to make bw tourneys,and then i realized that he was no talking about that. I see how 4 big events in a game that im considered by many one of the best outside Korea been made and not only me but all the current tops except koget (JUST KIDDING ) that no one likes him didnt get an invitation.i remember watching dracos stream after the esl open and i was chatting with him when all of sudden the zotac guy appeared and invited him to the zotac invitational,i wasnt jealous,the first thing that did come to my mind was .man what god this guy pray to,he said he is not catholic.and honestly is not all about prizes but for me was more like it is so cool flying overseas and meet the players that u play online with in offline competition and meet the people that used to be big deal long ago in the bw scene that u only know about them in interviews or articles,cuz in my mind it was proly the obvious move new blood meet old.Well in the end it was the whole group in every event and with the whole negativity your head just plays with you,i wish nothing but sucess to any bw event cuz i love this game and i consider it my best friend,i cant wish bad to my best friend.
We (me, you, bonyth, trutacz, terror, dandy etc etc) can fold for 10 dollars and make a tournament with each other. Prize pool will be a hundred times smaller, but the quality of the game is ten times better And since in this topic I see the interest of some people in such a show, maybe someone else will be able to support
I'd be interested in working and pitching on this. Maybe we can get everyone who wants to contribute into a discord channel and discuss it.
(Not here since it's seriously off topic )
I'm gonna try to watch the games today (I'm at work on a Monday...), but I am HIGHLY interested in this. It's been a long time since there has been a tournament with the true best players. IMO, collaborate with the players on the structure of it, since it would be all about them.
Man can’t wait to watch this love these guys. On the other note I would love to watch some of the top foreign players play. I haven’t watched a top foreigner tournament in like 10 years. Can anyone direct me to some of those? Also yeah I think it would be great if there were some high paying tournaments for foreigners but you have to have a big enough scene to put that on..... we ain’t back there guy, we barely we before sc2. Hopefully events like this can build up to the point that we can have those
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And since in this topic I see the interest of some people in such a show, maybe someone else will be able to support
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