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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
August 22 2017 11:30 GMT
#1
Giving that the ladder is now global, have you already played some games against koreans? Were they affected heavily by lag or were they absolutely playable?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2017 11:34 GMT
#2
unplayable for me its to laggy ... i had 20 sec max search before for a super nolag game now i have 18 seconds for a pile of lag ... my ping to korea isnt playable from germany

it was global before i have the feeling this rob guy just disabled the lag check and now its just elo check
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
August 22 2017 11:55 GMT
#3
I'm from Italy and I read on the Ita-channel that the lag is unbearable
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 22 2017 11:56 GMT
#4
I played a bit on fish, and had 0 problems. Felt just like I was laddering on EU,
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
August 22 2017 12:00 GMT
#5
On August 22 2017 20:56 sabas123 wrote:
I played a bit on fish, and had 0 problems. Felt just like I was laddering on EU,

I'm talking about ladder which doesn't take into account which server you log in. At least this is what I've understood about global ladder
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
August 22 2017 12:15 GMT
#6
Ret hit some koreans on the ladder during his stream yesterday and there didnt seem to be any lag
did you read the script?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2017 12:22 GMT
#7
On August 22 2017 21:15 th3_great wrote:
Ret hit some koreans on the ladder during his stream yesterday and there didnt seem to be any lag


jaeh because some people have no lag to korea, but from my place i was never able to play vs koreans i auto lag vs them and thats alot of people who are having this problem, there are areas who works better then others.

they just instead of changed how 2000+ worked seemingly disabled the ping check
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
August 22 2017 12:39 GMT
#8
On August 22 2017 21:15 th3_great wrote:
Ret hit some koreans on the ladder during his stream yesterday and there didnt seem to be any lag

Really ? I watched his stream yesterday and saw him only vs European players. So far this global ladder doesn't really seem global.
MKStyles
Profile Joined April 2017
106 Posts
August 22 2017 12:42 GMT
#9
On August 22 2017 21:39 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 21:15 th3_great wrote:
Ret hit some koreans on the ladder during his stream yesterday and there didnt seem to be any lag

Really ? I watched his stream yesterday and saw him only vs European players. So far this global ladder doesn't really seem global.


why u lying? he played vs shine and several koreans lol
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-22 12:45:35
August 22 2017 12:44 GMT
#10
best solution might be to do a ping check up to 60 seconds search then go full global? I haven't had any lag thus far except one game versus someone from south america

the change happened yesterday late in the evening for me fwiw (Canada East time)
noob_saibot
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation213 Posts
August 22 2017 12:48 GMT
#11
Im 700km away from Korea, matching only vs Koreans, 50% of the games are playable on high latency, 25% - no lags even on low, 25% - super laggy, unplayable on extra latency. I've never had any lag issues with players from Europe or NA, but Blizzard decided that if I'm from Asia I should play only vs Koreans and noone cares that my ping to Seoul is 5x times higher than to Berlin.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 22 2017 13:00 GMT
#12
For me it's laggy and sometimes unplayable. I'd really prefer to play only europeans.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2017 13:09 GMT
#13
On August 22 2017 21:44 ROOTFayth wrote:
best solution might be to do a ping check up to 60 seconds search then go full global? I haven't had any lag thus far except one game versus someone from south america

the change happened yesterday late in the evening for me fwiw (Canada East time)


would not work either ... from personal experiance i can say that america to korea is often fine but europe to korea is horrible ... jaeh tehre are some lucky folks but most people just cant

and i get that we can make a cap like 1-5 minutes then global but if someone need a long time for a game and THEN it lags every time its even worse
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
August 22 2017 13:10 GMT
#14
Just wait few weeks so all the koreans have higher mmr and we can enjoy no lag eu-eu games.:D
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
KrOjah
Profile Joined March 2017
United Kingdom68 Posts
August 22 2017 13:17 GMT
#15
I played one game last night vs a KR player (keeping experience to as recent as possible only) and whilst the game was still playable, it wasn't a hell of a lot of fun. The KR player player left the game, I assume out of frustration due to latency. Pretty sure he would have won the game otherwise, but mid you this was about 7AM KR time..

I think Blizzard probably want global matchmaking to keep an active/healthy playerbase for players outside of KR, but maybe there could be some sort of compromise, like EU to NA is usually fine for most players for instance. For those who genuinely struggle to find adequate competition outside of KR players, then I guess they will still need to play on a KR gateway, but for most players, it is not that important.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
August 22 2017 13:17 GMT
#16
On August 22 2017 21:42 MKStyles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 21:39 RouaF wrote:
On August 22 2017 21:15 th3_great wrote:
Ret hit some koreans on the ladder during his stream yesterday and there didnt seem to be any lag

Really ? I watched his stream yesterday and saw him only vs European players. So far this global ladder doesn't really seem global.


why u lying? he played vs shine and several koreans lol

I'm not lying. Maybe he started matching koreans when I went to sleep. Weird though as he basically played versus the same european players over and over (mostly zergs).
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
August 22 2017 13:21 GMT
#17
I didn't have lag vs Korea but I'm bit perplexed. People in Europe and usa used to be able to play vs Koreans no problem. Why is matchmaker so laggy for people if it is TR8.
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-22 13:27:35
August 22 2017 13:27 GMT
#18
No it's not on this version of the game. MaNa and Dimaga both quitted their streams saying it's too laggy even to play.
The funny thing is i always played on Fish with 1.16 and it was 1000000 times better than this shit.

TR8 is not the old L2.
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
August 22 2017 13:29 GMT
#19
It's 90% koreans, which are a bit laggy (gotta play on xtra high lat). 50% of the koreans i play go random, and 90% of the koreans i play just all-in.

Please bring back EU ladder, there are enough people to find games within 60 sec always
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
August 22 2017 13:30 GMT
#20
On August 22 2017 22:17 KrOjah wrote:
I played one game last night vs a KR player (keeping experience to as recent as possible only) and whilst the game was still playable, it wasn't a hell of a lot of fun. The KR player player left the game, I assume out of frustration due to latency. Pretty sure he would have won the game otherwise, but mid you this was about 7AM KR time..

I think Blizzard probably want global matchmaking to keep an active/healthy playerbase for players outside of KR, but maybe there could be some sort of compromise, like EU to NA is usually fine for most players for instance. For those who genuinely struggle to find adequate competition outside of KR players, then I guess they will still need to play on a KR gateway, but for most players, it is not that important.

I agree, at least in sc2 ,EU to NA is totally playable for me and would be a better practice than very laggy games vs koreans
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 22 2017 13:38 GMT
#21
Ladder is also unplayable for me, so strange...
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
traxamillion
Profile Joined August 2016
104 Posts
August 22 2017 13:41 GMT
#22
I play Koreans with less lag than old battle net (can at least somewhat muta micro) but I assume that is being from California. On West almost all I play is Koreans btw
chawinski
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia98 Posts
August 22 2017 14:15 GMT
#23
Tonight is the first time I've been hitting koreans non-stop. I'm from Australia (potato internet) and some games are laggy as hell while others are playable.
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-22 14:33:59
August 22 2017 14:32 GMT
#24
Mana and Demuslim were forced to stop streaming SCR cause of the lag. :/


Calendaraka Foxhan
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2017 14:34 GMT
#25
On August 22 2017 23:32 HaN- wrote:
Mana and Demuslim were forced to stop streaming SCR cause of the lag. :/


and all because 1 developer who made a on the fly fix while being in rets stream xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
August 22 2017 14:39 GMT
#26
On August 22 2017 23:34 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 23:32 HaN- wrote:
Mana and Demuslim were forced to stop streaming SCR cause of the lag. :/


and all because 1 developer who made a on the fly fix while being in rets stream xD


That guy tried his best , don't fire him for a single mistake, which can be fixed anyway
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
August 22 2017 14:40 GMT
#27
Maybe a "Foreigner" and a "Korea" gateway would be better, with matchmaking taking into account the gateway, ping and mmr instead of being global.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
August 22 2017 15:10 GMT
#28
EU to NA is unplayable, so is EU to KR. Which pretty much means that ladder is unplayable for people in EU. Good job Blizzard!
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
August 22 2017 15:14 GMT
#29
I was raging hard last night about this, glad to see the problem isn't just me lol. Here's a 15 second clip of what I had to endure every game I played against a Korean (except for one):


Hopefully there's something they can do about this. It never used to be this bad ;/
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
August 22 2017 15:23 GMT
#30
On August 23 2017 00:14 GoShox wrote:
I was raging hard last night about this, glad to see the problem isn't just me lol. Here's a 15 second clip of what I had to endure every game I played against a Korean (except for one): https://clips.twitch.tv/PuzzledSassyPeppermintPupper

Hopefully there's something they can do about this. It never used to be this bad ;/


Wow that is atrocious. I don't know how that is possible with TR8. It looks like lag from unforwarded ports on iccup.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 22 2017 15:29 GMT
#31
On August 23 2017 00:14 GoShox wrote:
I was raging hard last night about this, glad to see the problem isn't just me lol. Here's a 15 second clip of what I had to endure every game I played against a Korean (except for one): https://clips.twitch.tv/PuzzledSassyPeppermintPupper

Hopefully there's something they can do about this. It never used to be this bad ;/

yeah this is pretty fuckin terrible, I didn't experience that so far.... it's a shame because although I get frustrated playing vs koreans sometimes it forces me to try hard otherwise I get stomped, helps quite a bit to improve faster
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
August 22 2017 15:39 GMT
#32
yea EU-KR seems to be bad for me, I wish they revert matchmaking to local region as a priority. I don't mind losing or getting outplayed, but unable to input commands and watching the game stop every 2 seconds is unbearable.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States859 Posts
August 22 2017 15:47 GMT
#33
On August 22 2017 23:40 NasKe_ wrote:
Maybe a "Foreigner" and a "Korea" gateway would be better, with matchmaking taking into account the gateway, ping and mmr instead of being global.


no... make global viable somehow. There will be no one in foreign scene... it will only make current situation worse for players like us who want to play vs koreans.
Life is just life
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States859 Posts
August 22 2017 15:48 GMT
#34
On August 23 2017 00:39 nukkuj wrote:
yea EU-KR seems to be bad for me, I wish they revert matchmaking to local region as a priority. I don't mind losing or getting outplayed, but unable to input commands and watching the game stop every 2 seconds is unbearable.


hell no. I don't want to waste time playing foreigners..
Life is just life
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
August 23 2017 07:57 GMT
#35
how can you play on Korea Server? For me, I choose Korea Server but it always seems like I get logged onto US West....

Is there a way to just log into Korea server and play Ranked over there?
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Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
August 23 2017 08:03 GMT
#36
it was playable for me but I haven't won into a Korean in the 3 games I've played since
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