With the rumors of Remastered I started casting again in November 2016 and now I'd like to steal a glimmer of limelight after a decade of obscurity. What better way to start to have a thread on TL.
I also run the '~NoHunters Free-for-all' Discord channel initiative - providing a safe space for new players and perpetual newbies to play their first few games and then peer pressuring them into 8 player Free-For-Alls in an attempt to ruin friendships. (Numbering almost 800 strong!)
All replays are sent to me on a voluntary basis, either by posting it in our discord channel or by e-mailing me at grethsc on gmail. Do mention the word 'replay' or 'vidrep' so it gets auto tagged to be ignored for several months until I feel like casting your replay, or discarding it altogether.
Making fun of new players like this seems... Unhelpful at best.
Although it might not seem obvious at first, I am attempting to be humorous. I've always leaned towards the satirical side? - Perhaps more the parody side of casting. People who send me their replays will probably never get casted, and most enjoy the roasting - and even find my low level knowledge of the game helpful.
It might sound weird, but it's important to make light of the situation. I think, historically, I've been the only one to show the way BW is played by 99% of the player population. It's important to show what kind of game the 'real people' are playing. A lot of the C and beyond players are far too serious about this game, there is no relief from the constant drive for competition that only very few people will have. It's important to find those players and help them satisfy their need to get better, but for all the other players it's first important to learn to be at ease with being bad at having fun with the game. Being serious and competitive about BW full-time will eventually destroy you. The levity of the casual side is important, especially when going towards Remastered.
Criticism is always welcome, as I always like a good 'discussion' (excuse to rant).
Can't argue with anything said in the post. As someone who played mostly casual games for a long time in the mid-oughts, including FFAs, Race Wars, Blizzard maps, etc. and "competitively" since then, I have to say that both were incredibly fun and both are without a doubt Brood War and both deserve a place in the public sphere. Greth does a great job of bringing a little love and exposure to this casual undercurrent.
Wishing you the best of luck! I hope you use this thread to update whenever you release a VidRep A brief summary when you upload it would be welcome so that it's not just a video link and nothing else. Key points to look for, overall summary of the game, like a movie preview? "One Zerg fights off the horde of enemy races for 30 minutes and is forced to relinquish its position on the map and hide in the corner. As the other factions fight to fill the vacuum, our Zerg friend tries to recover in a distant corner of this massive world. Will he make it out alive?"
Here we are, let's fucking go! This is the only place to find a quality caster on demand that is LITERALLY taking requests to cast YOUR GAME, the best way to get his attention is by making your replay appear as interesting as possible with an elaborately respectful PM that would catch anyone's attention. If you need tips on how to write up an email or a tactical IM, then I suggest reading or listening to an audiobook called How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnage. There is at least one chapter in that book that deals with how to address your letter so that it has the interests of the reader in mind. That interest is what is going to guarantee you your replay actually getting casted. If it's a good game then don't shit it up by leaving it named as "LastReplay.rep" change that shit up to actually mean something to the replay watcher, and save us the all the agony and pain of such a boring title. Be creative and you'll be rewarded by being on the big screen!
Muahahahahaha, I would know, I've been put out there recently.
Please remember that even though he does bash the people in the replay sometimes for humorous effect, the things, every single person who sends something to him is already aware of what they're in for.
Thanks for the support dudes, - And yeah ofc Psy gets the first reply. All is well with the universe.
Yes Jealous I will bump the thread every chance I get, and perhaps there will be descriptions, but I guess they'll be the usual iterations 'no, THIS is the worst game I've ever seen ... No, nonono, wait, THIS ONE is even worse!' etc... etc....
And yeah Rad, I guess it isn't betraying SC2GG anymore when posting here :p
Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
On August 01 2017 00:56 Jealous wrote: Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
And now it's your turn!
Join us to find out what happens when a T gets bullied into going all-in and gets a little too cocky in the chat.
On August 01 2017 00:56 Jealous wrote: Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
Join us to find out what happens when a T gets bullied into going all-in and gets a little too cocky in the chat.
After seeing this replay from your perspective:
1. Fuck I am dumb. 2. Fuck that Terran. 3. China #1 4. Fuck me. 5. My chat game isn't even that good T_T 6. Fuck Terran 7. That was a great game to play and watch anyway. 8. I might be biased. 9. Thank you.
On August 01 2017 00:56 Jealous wrote: Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
On August 01 2017 00:56 Jealous wrote: Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
On August 01 2017 00:56 Jealous wrote: Hahaha you got me chuckling on the bus when you talked about Protoss devolving to the primal slug form of the defensive cannon whore... spot-on diagnosis when you said all Protoss have it in them.
I think Nina left partially due to frustration but also due to the fact that after Corsair often come DT and that base had no detection. But yea mostly the ling piss stream not being able to melt the Protoss base.
Clearly an old game for both players - oldie but a goodie!
StarCraft: Remastered is above all else a good thing. It will do what it promised - bring StarCraft to a new generation of gamers. It will bring new blood and perhaps rekindle old flames. Yet it will not prepare players for the history they must face.
This release is only the beginning; the coming months will be crucial. A community framework needs to be revived after the initial coverage subsides, and new players need to be made aware that there is more to this old game than they might expect.
There are truths that will seem disingenuous to most, issues that can be seen clearly when taking the history of this game into account, to see it and the evolution it has undergone through the eyes of those of us that have witnessed the last two decades of Starcraft.
There is a potential worst case scenario looming. A reality in which too few players will get to know the context in which they will be required to brave this game. I’ve given this scenario the dramatic title of ‘The Starcraft Dark Age’ - in which the new generation of players will be stranded in the past, unable to move beyond their predecessors - the veterans still present today.
I'll say one thing about Remastered ... It'll make casting FFAs a lot easier. But out of principle I'll still need to be a bitter asshole about it, at least for the first few months.
Individual videos for the Star1 Beginner's cup. Co-Casted with FlashFTW Cleaned up the audio (and I was obsing instead of someone who hadn't played the game before :S)
Great stuff so far. I might submit some of my older and umm kinda bad reps haha. Are you still casting these? I have a really cool TvT in mind which would make for an exciting read.
On September 12 2017 07:30 BigFan wrote: Great stuff so far. I might submit some of my older and umm kinda bad reps haha. Are you still casting these? I have a really cool TvT in mind which would make for an exciting read.
Thanks, and of course! I'm always on the lookout for that illusive 'worst game of brood war ever played'. I was a bit busy IRL, so all I produced was the PATL and the Beginners tourney. But I'll definitely be back to regular Vidrep schedules soon (after another PATL cast).
Im just popping in to say i've been watching your vidreps for 2 years and they always make me laugh and keep up the good work. these vidreps help me introduce new people to starcraft so they see Broodwar it not full of people who have played the game since the dawn of time and that there are people who are bad at the game like them and still have a fun time playing it.
On September 16 2017 00:33 Carminedust wrote: Im just popping in to say i've been watching your vidreps for 2 years and they always make me laugh and keep up the good work. these vidreps help me introduce new people to starcraft so they see Broodwar it not full of people who have played the game since the dawn of time and that there are people who are bad at the game like them and still have a fun time playing it.
Hey, thanks. It's always nice to know that those viewcounts are actual people and I'm not completely going insane. I'm also happy that I'm not alone in thinking that this is sometimes a better introduction than watching Pros do what they do. You need context to be in awe of what they can achieve.
After much commiseration and lamenting following my Bi-annual hiatus, and the slow burning death of Starcraft Remastered, I have decided to post a vidrep now and then again.
So in all their glory - a sight to behold, the skills of the skilless:
I don't think it would be wrong to describe most of the games I cast as being played by a certain genetic memory rather than a set of learned game mechanics. Primordial if you will.
On January 15 2019 23:32 Greth wrote: I don't think it would be wrong to describe most of the games I cast as being played by a certain genetic memory rather than a set of learned game mechanics. Primordial if you will.
As a little side project, lucky is compiling a list of highlights of my first decade of doing this bullshit, and I'm somehow convinced of posting it on the channel.
Very, very few pixels were harmed in the making of this video.
And yes, 'Part 1' means there is going to be more of this.
Something a little different this time - for the AIST tournament I have casted a few games - both AI vs AI and a Human vs AI.
Not my usual style - a bit more academic so non-starcraft people can understand wtf is going on - also using the openBW replay viewer so the game doesn't crumble under 35k worth of APM.
AI vs AI
Human vs AI!
The full set of these games can be found here: (thankfully not casted by me)
Oh christ what a bump. As usual, I petered out somewhat. But now we're kinda back in the swing of things. And I also plan to wage war on Blizzard, but more on that later!
This was three months ago, whose counting!
The reason for the bump - a good old fashioned NHFFA with a choice selection of idiots.
Nice! Keep them going! Hope to see some more 1x1 games from totally new players (800-900 MMR maybe). Pure strategic way to play BW is so fun to watch when nobody has mechanics or builds.
On October 26 2020 21:48 QuadroX wrote: Nice! Keep them going! Hope to see some more 1x1 games from totally new players (800-900 MMR maybe). Pure strategic way to play BW is so fun to watch when nobody has mechanics or builds.
I'll be casting some RSL games, I am currently infiltrating their ranks, gaining their trust, and then I will strike - crushing their little souls for the sake of momentary amusement.
I'll be casting some RSL games, I am currently infiltrating their ranks, gaining their trust, and then I will strike - crushing their little souls for the sake of momentary amusement.
Nice! Group stage preferably, ro16 and further they turn into macro machines.
Another gem! Totally agree with you on build order perspective. This crippled me so much when I started learning the game. People just need to take their time to explore the game and learn naturally until they understand why build orders needed in the first place, and what specific things they are helping to accomplish. So many people row rank can't answer "why" they are doing certain things and played 2K games already (me included). Same goes with "I'm not fast enough" mentality where if you don't have 350 APM you don't even try where in fact most of their clicks just wasted.
I don't think there is anything wrong with starting with a build order as a learning device, in fact I firmly believe it is a better foundation than just doing whatever you feel like. It all depends on how much you invest into being mindful of outcomes and analyzing the results.
As most of you know, many basic scientific experiments rely on having one constant and one variable. In this case, your build order is the constant and the opponent's build choice is the variable. As you win/lose against all the random shit that lower level players do, you can get a feel for what your build is successful at, what it is bad at, etc. Then from there you can adjust accordingly based on scouting information. "Last time I wanted to do 2 Hatch muta and I saw 1 base 4 gateway Protoss, I got crushed! Maybe I should focus on surviving the inevitable attack and focus on defense instead of trying to hit the Muta timing..."
To be fair, Greth admitted that he isn't a high-level player, and neither am I, so I may be off on this. But 3 Hatch Hydra is totally viable against 1 base play. It has been used as a way to bust FFE, yes, but that is because 1. Nearly all Toss go FFE and 2. It is easier to execute than it is to recognize and react appropriately to (like in 4 pool vs rax fe). However, just because that is its most visible use since 2007, doesn't mean that it isn't viable against a wide variety of openers. So, starting 3 Hatch Hydra blind (or with the intention of doing so) and then trying it against the random shit done at low ranks, you build your understanding of all of its build interactions while simultaneously using it as a vehicle for understanding other units, micro, macro, etc. There is nothing inherently wrong with starting each game with a simple build order in mind.
A much better example, in my opinion, would have been mid/late-game oriented builds. For example, 5 Fac. This build is designed to punish a Protoss' 3rd base timing. However, if Protoss doesn't take a 3rd base, then it makes little sense to do, all else being equal. It can still win against mechanically inferior players who don't react well, and this could lead to the misconception that 5 Fac just reks everything. But as soon as you crawl over the ~midpoint of ladder, blind 5 Fac just gets crushed if it is not hitting the appropriate timing. Thus, I agree that entering a random TvP against a random opponent and thinking "I'm going 5 Fac!" is a demonstration of a clear gap in understanding. What you should be thinking instead is "I will open Siege Expand with a wall, then I'll do a 5 Fac if they take a fast 3rd, and if they don't I will aim to take my 3rd and find out their Arbiter timing." However, note that the Siege Expand - the BASE build order - is still constant. Yes, it is advantaged vs some openings and disadvantaged vs others, but on paper it doesn't just get RPS'd into unviability. Thus, it is a good opening to start with and learn from - not 5 Fac.
TL;DR: It is important to distinguish mid/lategame build orders from openings and furthermore understand that a consistent opening provides a constant in a hellscape of variability (low ranks), and thus likely a better platform for learning than just doing whatever bone head idea comes to mind.
However, having fun is paramount, and whatever that means for you, glhf.
Just to expand a little bit what I mean. I am 1300 MMR scrub, don't take it seriously. I know it is a hard and controversial topic.
Imho for a person that just who finished campaign without being good in SC2/WC3 or any other RTS-like game before following specific build order (supply numbers, exact builds, etc.) and hoping to win with it despite all ladder craziness could be worse that just having some kind of a general macro-oriented game plan in mind and try different things to see if they work or not or how they line-up together.
Better things for the new player would be:
* Get comfortable with keyboard and mouse (control groups, hotkeys, mouse movement and clicks, how unit and their spells work) * Focus on spending your minerals and gas always (do not prioritize unit micro over it) * Focus on not getting supply blocked * Get better eco than your opponent (try to punish greedy players, try to defend aggressive players, key word "try" you will see if that works or not after the game)
I might be crazy but I do believe that having no specific (!) plan and no build in mind for some time is a good thing. Let noobs explore like a child explores things. Let them rely on their innate abilities, natural survival and attacking instincts.
This will allow them to learn naturally:
* Importance of scouting, why you need to scout, what to scout for * How more units always almost always beats less units and how economy works (need to have more money than your opponent) * Get comfortable with the game engine, keyboard and mouse mechanics
With certain build you can put them in a box where they will be afraid to steer away from the build, make mistakes and learn, always in a constant stress and anxiety because nobody can execute their build properly. Things are always late, not on time, game is lost before even started. This is so much harder. RTS game should be enjoyable. I miss those times when people just build lots of static defense and went whatever tech they thought was cool. This was fun, this was the essence of RTS experience back then.
The next step will be to pick a solid build and try to polish it, but that's AFTER you understand why it's good or bad, what it designed to counter, what are the strengths and weaknesses.
e.g. In the above mentioned game Zerg went 3 hatch vs 1 nexus. This is greedy AF, especially on close respawns. Protoss could either go fast tech into corsair DT and kill all overlords, or shuttle-reaver play, or secret 4 gate zealot bust. All those 1-base builds will crush 3 bases. No way Zerg at this level could have defended 3 base against it and not went a bit too greedy. The "good build thing" is to go 3 base, but more rational thing would be to scout if there's Protoss expansion and if there is you (as Zerg) have to be +1 base so 3 base is suddenly fine (and hydra bust expansion plan is fine), if you don't see P expansion then can just stay on 2 base and go muta for example (2 gas vs 1 gas).
P.S. Playing FFA Hunters, BGH, Fastest, 2v2v2, 2v2, 3v3 especially teach those core game aspects, they are so underestimated.
On November 10 2020 01:45 QuadroX wrote: Just to expand a little bit what I mean. I am 1300 MMR scrub, don't take it seriously. I know it is a hard and controversial topic.
While the noob opinion is of course welcome, the hard fact is that you haven't advanced past the midpoint of the bellcurve of skill, so I am not sure how much weight can be given to testimony about getting better/improving/winning games when you can only see one side of the coin. Players above 1500 MMR have seen both sides of the coin and how to flip it - being total noob, improving, then being average or above average. So yes, "don't take it seriously," but I believe that should apply to your own estimation of your words - recognizing that perhaps you don't have a broad perspective on the matter.
Imho for a person that just who finished campaign without being good in SC2/WC3 or any other RTS-like game before following specific build order (supply numbers, exact builds, etc.) and hoping to win with it despite all ladder craziness could be worse that just having some kind of a general macro-oriented game plan in mind and try different things to see if they work or not or how they line-up together.
Better things for the new player would be:
* Get comfortable with keyboard and mouse (control groups, hotkeys, mouse movement and clicks, how unit and their spells work) * Focus on spending your minerals and gas always (do not prioritize unit micro over it) * Focus on not getting supply blocked * Get better eco than your opponent (try to punish greedy players, try to defend aggressive players, key word "try" you will see if that works or not after the game)
This goes without saying - but these are things you can also do WHILE trying a build order. In fact, there are mini "timings" which you discover on your own while playing the same build order over and over - like, when to pull a Probe off minerals to build 8 Pylon at natural. Those are things that you won't get if you just build Pylon at whatever timing - 7, 8, 9, who cares, right? I am not pushing for the acceptance of some insane near-100 supply build order, just that people should go 8 Pylon 10 Gate 11 Gas 13 Cyber, for example. The explanation for WHY that is good is quite simple - it is efficient. No big convoluted theories, no mind-exploding ground-breaking deep rooted knowledge necessary.
I might be crazy but I do believe that having no specific (!) plan and no build in mind for some time is a good thing. Let noobs explore like a child explores things. Let them rely on their innate abilities, natural survival and attacking instincts.
This will allow them to learn naturally:
* Importance of scouting, why you need to scout, what to scout for * How more units always almost always beats less units and how economy works (need to have more money than your opponent) * Get comfortable with the game engine, keyboard and mouse mechanics
Again, none of these things are in any way easier, learned quicker, or displayed better because you are not following a build order. What is the logical explanation for why a build order doesn't show the importance of scouting, or having more units than the enemy? Makes no sense to me.
With certain build you can put them in a box where they will be afraid to steer away from the build, make mistakes and learn, always in a constant stress and anxiety because nobody can execute their build properly. Things are always late, not on time, game is lost before even started. This is so much harder. RTS game should be enjoyable. I miss those times when people just build lots of static defense and went whatever tech they thought was cool. This was fun, this was the essence of RTS experience back then.
This was the essence for noobs, and it still is. Those things have not changed. It's just harder to find noobs of that level, just as much as it is harder to be ignorant of what good StarCraft/RTS play is.
The next step will be to pick a solid build and try to polish it, but that's AFTER you understand why it's good or bad, what it designed to counter, what are the strengths and weaknesses.
Understanding can't come from purely theoretical approaches in this game. This is why you have your WaterSerpentM and other "gosu theorists who just aren't fast enough" and why they are laughed at. The reality is that you can think you understand the game, but your understanding is limited by your level of play and what you are exposed to. Sure, there may be some players who watch a ton of VODs, read the forums/watch streams of high level players, tutorials, etc. and they will know more than their skill would normally permit. But, if you can't execute it, that understanding is pointless. Why not develop that understanding side-by-side with developing the build order? As I explained above, trial-and-error makes so much more sense in the framework of a specific build/opener than it does when you're just plopping down buildings and units randomly.
The perfect example of this is super low-level Zergs. They open with like, Extractor, Spawning Pool, 2 Sunk. They are so bad that they can't grasp the concept of 1 building = 1 less drone, that Extractor before Spawning Pool makes no sense whatsoever, etc. Giving them a basic 9 Pool build order, with or without explanation, will already dramatically improve their position in the game and give them a better foundation for future learning than the mishmash build order they are pursuing. Are they really having fun, getting crushed a few minutes later rather than earlier, because they made static d but are behind from the first 30 seconds of the game?
I am not suggesting that people adhere to a build order 100% of the game regardless of intel. I am asserting that for a noob with poor critical thinking skills about the game as a byproduct of their noobness, it is better to have some direction/foundation than none whatsoever. Left in a vacuum, that noob will be making extractor before spawning pool for the rest of his career.
On November 10 2020 01:45 QuadroX wrote: e.g. In the above mentioned game Zerg went 3 hatch vs 1 nexus. This is greedy AF, especially on close respawns. Protoss could either go fast tech into corsair DT and kill all overlords, or shuttle-reaver play, or secret 4 gate zealot bust. All those 1-base builds will crush 3 bases. No way Zerg at this level could have defended 3 base against it and not went a bit too greedy. The "good build thing" is to go 3 base, but more rational thing would be to scout if there's Protoss expansion and if there is you (as Zerg) have to be +1 base so 3 base is suddenly fine (and hydra bust expansion plan is fine), if you don't see P expansion then can just stay on 2 base and go muta for example (2 gas vs 1 gas).
That argument seems good on paper but the reality is that you are assuming that the 1 base Protoss player is competent at 1 base play. I am quite certain that if you take a Protoss player of equal level to that Zerg, as much as it would be HARDER for the Zerg to hold on against 1 base play than it clearly was in this game, it is nowhere near as clear-cut as you make it seem (that the 1 base play will "crush" the 3 base).
P.S. Playing FFA Hunters, BGH, Fastest, 2v2v2, 2v2, 3v3 especially teach those core game aspects, they are so underestimated.
Those are fun ways to get into the game, for sure, but very few people actively improve in any respectable time frame when their success is reliant on other people and thus the cause-and-effect of their decisions is so heavily muddled by outside influences. It's also somewhat irrelevant, since we are responding to a video about 1v1 and build orders, but still. 1v1 gives you a direct cause-and-effect of your decisions - there are no excuses like "my team sucked" or "I got 2v1'd" and that's a hard and bitter pill to swallow for gamers who can't tolerate losing - especially when that experience is stretched over a 10+ minute game. However, this is also the cleanest and most concrete way of working on your understanding, mechanics, and gameplay as a whole - bar none.
Fair points, hard to argue with them. Especially while I'm still at the very bottom of this pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence being lower than average. Let's just agree on not sticking 100% to the build order without using scouting intel and your head to think and adjust to what's happening in the game.
What is the logical explanation for why a build order doesn't show the importance of scouting, or having more units than the enemy?
Here the point was that having a fixed build order you can just do things regardless of scouting because "that's how it's done properly". Even if your build order says send 12th worker to scout you don't know what to scout for (unless told specifically). While without fixed build order if you don't scout for certain things you just insta die. Therefore scouting becomes essential and you learn it naturally.
Not going to argue anymore and dig myself even deeper. Treat this as "how noobs can see this matter in their own crazy way".
On November 16 2020 18:55 Greth wrote: Casted a bunch of RSL games and gave my usual brand of overbearing suggestions and criticisms while hardly being C myself.
This game is actually the most valuable learning resource for new players. This is how you have "an idea of a proper build" and what you should be doing in ZvZ watching pro Koreans play or whatever WHILE completely being irrelevant to what actually happens in the game. You're not playing the game, you're just fixated on doing "your build thing". Because to play this game you need much deeper understanding of how things work and some experience being in similar situations before.
P.S. No shame red Zerg, I was in your shoes all the time, this turtle style is very annoying. I would go even further and complain that Hydras are IMBA, all you do is stay behind towers like a noob, then do the push into victory. You looked pretty lost at the end of this game, feel you bro! Better to wait for "good players" to give you the right answer how to deal with that, but the way I see it myself now is come to this basic circle: Greed > Defense > Offense > Greed. In that game you see he is totally defending in the beginning, so you go greedy on drones, take bases, upgrades, etc. and scout if he starts making army. You see he puts more defense then you can go even greedier on drones and then beat with better economy, ling muta was a fine combo, you just was over aggressive and had much less drones than you could have afforded.
On November 24 2020 22:39 QuadroX wrote: This game is actually the most valuable learning resource for new players. This is how you have "an idea of a proper build" and what you should be doing in ZvZ watching pro Koreans play or whatever WHILE completely being irrelevant to what actually happens in the game. You're not playing the game, you're just fixated on doing "your build thing". Because to play this game you need much deeper understanding of how things work and some experience being in similar situations before.
P.S. No shame red Zerg, I was in your shoes all the time, this turtle style is very annoying. I would go even further and complain that Hydras are IMBA, all you do is stay behind towers like a noob, then do the push into victory. You looked pretty lost at the end of this game, feel you bro! Better to wait for "good players" to give you the right answer how to deal with that, but the way I see it myself now is come to this basic circle: Greed > Defense > Offense > Greed. In that game you see he is totally defending in the beginning, so you go greedy on drones, take bases, upgrades, etc. and scout if he starts making army. You see he puts more defense then you can go even greedier on drones and then beat with better economy, ling muta was a fine combo, you just was over aggressive and had much less drones than you could have afforded.
Trying my hand at slightly higher level play. Do scrutinize any misinformation I spread. I'm always hesitant to imply anything when people are somewhat better.
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A brief summary when you upload it would be welcome so that it's not just a video link and nothing else. Key points to look for, overall summary of the game, like a movie preview? "One Zerg fights off the horde of enemy races for 30 minutes and is forced to relinquish its position on the map and hide in the corner. As the other factions fight to fill the vacuum, our Zerg friend tries to recover in a distant corner of this massive world. Will he make it out alive?"
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