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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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lestye
United States4280 Posts
On July 01 2017 01:56 Endymion wrote: those saying it will deter smurfers, how do you know it will be locked to a single account? it's not that way on the 1.18 beta It's using the blizzard client so I'd assume you might have to log in through the 2.0 account | ||
Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
On July 01 2017 01:19 ldv wrote: as always, nobody owes you anything and changing business decisions during development is their prerogative. It's perfectly reasonable to ask why previously announced features have been changed. Also, whether or not anyone 'owes' anyone else is completely irrelevant to what he said, except for you to wrongly portray him as entitled to try and discredit his perfectly reasonable question. | ||
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ldv
United States103 Posts
On July 01 2017 02:32 Waxangel wrote: It's perfectly reasonable to ask why previously announced features have been changed. Also, whether or not anyone 'owes' anyone else is completely irrelevant to what he said, except for you to wrongly portray him as entitled to try and discredit his perfectly reasonable question. I don't think it is that reasonable, talking about 'promises' and 'going back on their word' implies heavily that the poster thinks they are owed the things that were previously discussed as part of some deal that was made. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
On July 01 2017 02:34 ldv wrote: I don't think it is that reasonable, talking about 'promises' and 'going back on their word' implies heavily that the poster thinks they are owed the things that were previously discussed as part of some deal that was made. Blizz doesn't let their guys make on the record statements like that casually. A bluepost is an official statement, and asking why they changed their official stance is a totally normal part of the developer-community conversation. You're reading too deeply into "going back" and adding a "promises" that he didn't even say. | ||
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ldv
United States103 Posts
On July 01 2017 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Blizz doesn't let their guys make on the record statements like that casually. A bluepost is an official statement, and asking why they changed their official stance is a totally normal part of the developer-community conversation. You're reading too deeply into "going back" and adding a "promises" that he didn't even say. I probably am reading too heavily into what this poster is saying, but if I am, it's because it's colored by the thousands of voices asking the same thing in more explicit terms. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
Don't wanna hate, it's pointless for many of us to play the game when you can't ladder. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On July 01 2017 01:58 lestye wrote: It's using the blizzard client so I'd assume you might have to log in through the 2.0 account you could just log in, start the game, and be able to make new accounts like normal though. it doesn't make sense since that's how you do it on 1.18 right now, and the servers are meant to be mixed? like, you can't have only remastered players being confined to battlenet.20 while normal 1.18 users aren't required to use a linked bnet account (unless they intend to gut their entire system and force normal 1.18 users to link a bnet account) | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18040 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:27 -Archangel- wrote: I replayed the campaign when SC:BW became free but I will do it again with SC:R to see the new between mission stuff they added. that Mengsk speech after the "Hammer Falls" is the greatest speech in the history of video games! "....we shall win through... no matter the cost!" On July 01 2017 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Blizz doesn't let their guys make on the record statements like that casually. A bluepost is an official statement, and asking why they changed their official stance is a totally normal part of the developer-community conversation. You're reading too deeply into "going back" and adding a "promises" that he didn't even say. Blizz altered their stance on how skins would be earned during seasonal events in Overwatch which generated increased motivation to buy loot boxes outright. The last few years I find Blizzard mucks up occasionally on these tiny details. Blizzard used to never get even the smallest of details wrong. its not like i'm super pissed off and never going to buy another Blizzard game .. but it does lower my view of Blizzard ever so slightly. | ||
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iopq
United States1198 Posts
On June 30 2017 23:41 Creager wrote: Continously hilarious. How much do you think did the development cost? From the interview I got the number of 18 months and that they had a small team of about 5 people. lets say, that's about 100k per year for Stilwell (and that's a favorable estimate) and lets say 200k for the engineers altogether. So roughly 450k for the 18 months for personell, plus marketing, let's say it cost them roughly half a million (probably less). Now, let's see, if they sell 100.000 units, and I honestly don't see why they won't, especially considering BW's popularity in Korea, they roughly made 1 million dollars profit. So, what's your estimate? You have no idea how much software engineers make in California. They've definitely spent over a million on development costs already | ||
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danielias
Chile67 Posts
On June 30 2017 21:59 raff100 wrote: Do you realize that people are not against the 15 $ price of remastered,but against the fake promises of Blizzard employers who said that Matchmaking was going to be free? You dont understand how bussiness works. Sometimes you have to make changes/adjust along the way. Can you be more grateful? They need support too. I mean stop being suck a jerk. If you are disapoitment or sad, keep that to your self and dont buy it. period. On June 30 2017 22:10 wallesM wrote: I don't like being lied to. Price of the game doesn't matter, it's about principles. I mean that's why we pretty much can't have nice games in 2017 because of consumers like you who are happy with unfinished games and companies delivering those products in pre-alpha state and in-game shops for cosmetic addons. Too bad blizzard joined this horrible trend in the industry. I really really hope it's just those 3 skins and no more micro-in game purchases... but let's be real - that's just my wishful thinking... Do you have idea how much work is involved in projects like this? Humans like you are the reason why this planet is fuck up. That mentality of "give me give me" and what you give to others? You dont know how things work, like a child. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 01 2017 03:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: that Mengsk speech after the "Hammer Falls" is the greatest speech in the history of video games! "....we shall win through... no matter the cost!" Nah, I didn't find it very interesting. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 01 2017 03:26 Endymion wrote: you could just log in, start the game, and be able to make new accounts like normal though. it doesn't make sense since that's how you do it on 1.18 right now, and the servers are meant to be mixed? like, you can't have only remastered players being confined to battlenet.20 while normal 1.18 users aren't required to use a linked bnet account (unless they intend to gut their entire system and force normal 1.18 users to link a bnet account) Think about how SC2 does it, if you've dabbled with SC2 enough to be familiar. Basically, you pay for your account, which lets you log into battle net. Then on each server you have said account. You can be ranked differently with different MMR's (afaik) on KR vs EU. 1.18 users could still create infinite accounts, because they won't be allowed to play ranked ladder games, just for fun melee games and UMS; and in those cases it doesn't matter whether you have 1 account or 700 accounts. If matchmaking is separate, my assumption is that 1.18 will work much like it does now. BW: R will be similar, in that you can join those 1.18 style games if you want, but will also have matchmaking que, much like in SC2, where you hit a button and it finds you a matched based on MMR. Probably you'd log into 1.18 the same as you do now, and into BW: R in a style more similar to SC2, but both games would be connected to the same server, allowing BW: R users to join and host non ladder melee and UMS games with 1.18 users or vice versa. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
Whoaa, Sacrilege!! That's the most offensive thing I've ever read! Well, probably because I've never been offended ever, but that's not the point! Also, I'm numb to sarcasm.. That's why I demand a trigger warning for inflammatory statements about BW lore, of any kind!  | ||
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Scrutinizer
170 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 01 2017 05:48 L_Master wrote: Think about how SC2 does it, if you've dabbled with SC2 enough to be familiar. Basically, you pay for your account, which lets you log into battle net. Then on each server you have said account. You can be ranked differently with different MMR's (afaik) on KR vs EU. 1.18 users could still create infinite accounts, because they won't be allowed to play ranked ladder games, just for fun melee games and UMS; and in those cases it doesn't matter whether you have 1 account or 700 accounts. If matchmaking is separate, my assumption is that 1.18 will work much like it does now. BW: R will be similar, in that you can join those 1.18 style games if you want, but will also have matchmaking que, much like in SC2, where you hit a button and it finds you a matched based on MMR. Probably you'd log into 1.18 the same as you do now, and into BW: R in a style more similar to SC2, but both games would be connected to the same server, allowing BW: R users to join and host non ladder melee and UMS games with 1.18 users or vice versa. i think a good middle ground would be, still allow users as many accounts as they want, but only 1 in ladder per season. I mean maybe i wanna play casual melee/ums games as protoss or zerg and dont want my horrible offraces on my maina ccount. that seems like a decent balancing act imo. Cause i also think it was announced this will be on bnet 2.0 so its not outside their capabilities | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 01 2017 05:10 danielias wrote: You dont understand how bussiness works. Sometimes you have to make changes/adjust along the way. Can you be more grateful? They need support too. it's a multi-billion dollar company. They don't give a c*** about your support, they just want you to buy the product. | ||
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lestye
United States4280 Posts
On July 01 2017 07:10 Cele wrote: it's a multi-billion dollar company. They don't give a c*** about your support, they just want you to buy the product. Them being a billion dollar company is why you should support. They do care about support because otherwise they'd let that aspect of that business wither and fade away. This is a very niche part of their business, its not what making them a billion dollar company. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 01 2017 07:12 lestye wrote: Them being a billion dollar company is why you should support. They do care about support because otherwise they'd let that aspect of that business wither and fade away. This is a very niche part of their business, its not what making them a billion dollar company. sure, altruism and love for us few couple nerds is the true motivation here. You nailed it. Sorry, but that's a naive PoV in my opinion. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13092 Posts
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