EPTStarCraft: Remastered to be released Summer 2017 - Page 36
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ortseam
996 Posts
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On May 13 2017 09:35 raff100 wrote: Honestly I love watching progames without supply\production tabs,they are way more interesting than the SC2 ones with those QoL improvements.However I understand people that want these features in the game. It all comes to personal taste imho I add style of cast to that as well. I really liked the very old casts of games, speaking about the German Giga/WCG Qualifier/BWCL casts done by Grummel and to a lesser extent some of the earliest Day/Tasteless casts. I don't mean their way of doing jokes, but their general thought process. It really was giving an insight of how they approach the game, e.g. how they analyse the scouting patterns, the reactions and then went on trying to get into the player's heads. This way you could actually learn things as lower ranked player, and I really don't mean just getting to know the names of strategies, more like get a glimpse of decision making at higher levels. Sidenote: in this era those casters rarely wrongfully predicted the upcoming strat switches. I don't mean to offend the current foreign casters, but this is something rarely done in detail anymore. Aside from eOn's nation wars casts and to a lesser extent catspaw's casts nothing comes to mind that is similar to the older style. It's not bad if a caster either can't or doesn't want to analyse the ongoing game, nor could it be done if really big newbs should be entertained as well, as the audience needs to have a basic level of experience before being able to fully enjoy a more analytical approach. | ||
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fish_radio
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chocorush
696 Posts
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Aimhreidh
6 Posts
Showing the cards that are going to come to the spectator is not interesting, because no player knows anything about that either. Therefore, it is not relevant to their thought process. Therefore, it holds no interest to the spectator either. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2347 Posts
On May 12 2017 23:06 -Archangel- wrote: The BW elitists could have stayed on BW 1.16 or something. You on the other hand can go back to WoL if you dont like it. What I sincerely advice you. Go ruin the games for someone else. Not for us. | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On May 15 2017 00:44 hitthat wrote: You on the other hand can go back to WoL if you dont like it. What I sincerely advice you. Go ruin the games for someone else. Not for us. "BW elitists" (Koreans and foreigners) are the ones that kept the game alive, without them there would be no current community,, events or probably a remastered. Blizzard should definitely consider the old community in its decisions since they are the backbone, and probably after the remastered hype and others move on to other games, they will still be playing the game. I understand sometimes these "elitists" go overboard in their demands and expectations, but it's cuz they really love the game. They are super hardcore. And I say "consider" because Blizzard should definitely not bow over to all their suggestions, some of them are bad/controversial. But respect should be given where it is due. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12042 Posts
On May 13 2017 23:26 Aimhreidh wrote: I agree with the notion that the game is interesting for spectators when they can try to understand what is the thought process of the players. Poker became big on tv because of the 'hole cam'. In the same way, giving spectators access to supply, what units are in production, upgrades, and all the every info that is in the game, makes the game more interesting. Showing the cards that are going to come to the spectator is not interesting, because no player knows anything about that either. Therefore, it is not relevant to their thought process. Therefore, it holds no interest to the spectator either. Honestly, for me that was the one reason I hated watching SC2. It was never exciting anymore for me. It makes it too obvious when someone is miles ahead and removes any tension from the game. | ||
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LML
Germany1794 Posts
On May 15 2017 02:36 Qikz wrote: Honestly, for me that was the one reason I hated watching SC2. It was never exciting anymore for me. It makes it too obvious when someone is miles ahead and removes any tension from the game. I think it just made it easier for less experienced players to know who has which advantage. You can still tell very comfortably who has which advantage in BW if you pay attention (even if the observer doesn't show certain things. Timings and the mini map are great to gather additional information). But what's really exciting then is to see how the players play these advantages, or on the other hand try to win despite the disadvantage. I think it's easier to appreciate that (and possibly learn from it) as a worse player if you can see the details. If you actually realize he was at a disadvantage and how he played it. Something they might not have noticed as well with less information (although the caster(s) may very well point it out, as they should be experienced enough to know). | ||
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ssj114
Afghanistan461 Posts
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KameZerg
Sweden1772 Posts
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lestye
United States4209 Posts
On May 15 2017 06:23 ICanFlyLow wrote: Does anyone know if Blizzard plans to go full mode with the hotkey customization i.e making everything customizable or do they plan on keeping f-keys, group keys etc fixed? I don't think they've said anything that detailed. We are getting a preview article on starcraft.com next Friday about hotkeys https://starcraft.com/en-us/ . Maybe we'll get more info then. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On May 15 2017 06:01 ssj114 wrote: It's about time for this remastered. In my opinion, it should have been what "Starcraft 2" was. There was never a realistic chance for that to happen | ||
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TelecoM
United States10780 Posts
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lestye
United States4209 Posts
On May 15 2017 07:24 GGzerG wrote: I hope this brings back eSports into BW Foreign scene =) Eh, I can't see that happening, at least not without heavy Blizzard subsidies. There's so much competition with every game being a big esport now. The community is going to have to rely on grassroot events because an organizer like Dreamhack probably isnt going to pick it up because there are so many other games to choose from. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10780 Posts
On May 15 2017 07:55 lestye wrote: Eh, I can't see that happening, at least not without heavy Blizzard subsidies. There's so much competition with every game being a big esport now. The community is going to have to rely on grassroot events because an organizer like Dreamhack probably isnt going to pick it up because there are so many other games to choose from. HAVE FAITH MAN, DAMNIT HAVE FAITH I SAY ... =O | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On May 15 2017 07:55 lestye wrote: Eh, I can't see that happening, at least not without heavy Blizzard subsidies. There's so much competition with every game being a big esport now. The community is going to have to rely on grassroot events because an organizer like Dreamhack probably isnt going to pick it up because there are so many other games to choose from. Don't they kind of own MLG now, though? If you can put money into SC 2, a ship on the bottom of the ocean for years, you can surely allocate money to Remastered, even if as a hail mary. | ||
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lestye
United States4209 Posts
On May 15 2017 08:23 playa wrote: Don't they kind of own MLG now, though? If you can put money into SC 2, a ship on the bottom of the ocean for years, you can surely allocate money to Remastered, even if as a hail mary. Activision Blizzard does, not Blizzard proper. The only thing I think MLG does for Blizzard is host the World of Warcraft Blizzcon NA qualifiers, and more recently they're doing the Overwatch League. More Importantly, MLG doesn't host those big circuit events anymore. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On May 15 2017 08:30 lestye wrote: Activision Blizzard does, not Blizzard proper. The only thing I think MLG does for Blizzard is host the World of Warcraft Blizzcon NA qualifiers, and more recently they're doing the Overwatch League. More Importantly, MLG doesn't host those big circuit events anymore. They're using the MLG brand and assets to produce the Overwatch league, but they're still open to using those resources for their other games. Those are probably gonna be mostly backend support, but my fingers are still crossed for a LAN appearance. It would also be nice if OGN could get in on the Remaster hype and start hosting tournaments again, perhaps even doing them regularly. | ||
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