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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 26 2009 05:57 GMT
#1281
+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong v jjonga set 3] +
jjonga's opening was really awesome, but why didn't he do anything behind it? If he just treated it like a super forge FE he could have gained a ridiculous econ advantage over JD, who was forced to go 2-base hydra with a really late 2nd hatchery. Instead...he proxied a gateway (despite the fact he couldn't get into JD's base) and kept making cannons vs. hydras?? Makes no sense to me.
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 26 2009 06:27 GMT
#1282
On May 26 2009 14:57 JWD wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong v jjonga set 3] +
jjonga's opening was really awesome, but why didn't he do anything behind it? If he just treated it like a super forge FE he could have gained a ridiculous econ advantage over JD, who was forced to go 2-base hydra with a really late 2nd hatchery. Instead...he proxied a gateway (despite the fact he couldn't get into JD's base) and kept making cannons vs. hydras?? Makes no sense to me.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, the proxy gateway made no sense to me either, but I'm not sure that you're right about the ridiculous econ advantage. It's not just a super forge FE: sure Jaedong loses some economy, but so does the protoss: he makes more cannons than usual, plus he's eventually going to lose the forge and have to remake it.
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Eldariel
Profile Joined February 2008
Finland42 Posts
May 27 2009 00:40 GMT
#1283
On May 26 2009 15:27 qrs wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, the proxy gateway made no sense to me either, but I'm not sure that you're right about the ridiculous econ advantage. It's not just a super forge FE: sure Jaedong loses some economy, but so does the protoss: he makes more cannons than usual, plus he's eventually going to lose the forge and have to remake it.

+ Show Spoiler +
As both commentators pointed out, simply making more cannons would've won him the game; cannons outrange hydras so at the choke, the hydras are going to get stalled indefinitely - no Lair from Jae meant Jae was all-in with the hydras.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 27 2009 00:47 GMT
#1284
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't think jjonga made a "mistake" in the sense that he didn't expect that amount of hydras to break. Obviously, it's 20/20 hindsight, but during the game, and in practice, those amounts of cannons were sufficient and he didn't want to delay his tech or economy.
Jaedong
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 27 2009 05:30 GMT
#1285
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I'm no progamer, but in my experience those kind of cheese NEVER end well =/
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Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
May 27 2009 11:41 GMT
#1286
A week old, but it came up in one of the stream chats. Hwasin vs hyvaa with a crazy build from hwasin:
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-28 01:09:08
May 27 2009 16:15 GMT
#1287
(Z)Falcon vs (P)Much - Game 1 [Ro.32 Group 13]
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3

(Note that the commentators will spoil the result of (Z)Jaedong vs (P)jjonga.)

http://www.gomtv.net/videos/775

+ Show Spoiler [spoiler] +
(P)Much shows how to defend a 2 hatch hydra break. Probes > (Z)Falcon's hydras.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7497 Posts
May 28 2009 00:06 GMT
#1288
I'm not sure if they are up yet, but I couldn't tell from reading the live reports.

Was yellow vs light good at all?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 28 2009 18:05 GMT
#1289
(T)Light vs (Z)s2
+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +


+ Show Spoiler +
For those who don't speak Korean, at around 5:40 the commentators started talking about how there is a blind spot in the sunken's range and that the Vulture could sneak around behind the Mineral Line and pick off drones from there. However, (Z)s2 made a pimp move and blocked one of the routes with his Hydra den. Personally, I think it was luck because there is no way an SKT Zerg has any star Sense.
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Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
May 28 2009 18:08 GMT
#1290
On May 28 2009 09:06 AttackZerg wrote:
I'm not sure if they are up yet, but I couldn't tell from reading the live reports.

Was yellow vs light good at all?

As I recall, not really. Yarnc outplayed Light, but there wasn't anything special.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 28 2009 18:16 GMT
#1291
On May 28 2009 09:06 AttackZerg wrote:
I'm not sure if they are up yet, but I couldn't tell from reading the live reports.

Was yellow vs light good at all?

They're up.
+ Show Spoiler [about the games] +
Honestly, Light just seemed completely outclassed and dominated. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't anything really exciting.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 28 2009 19:45 GMT
#1292
light v s2 was better
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sztuczyn
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland694 Posts
May 30 2009 14:46 GMT
#1293
(P)Much vs (Z)hyvaa from CJ vs eSTRO
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:(
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
May 30 2009 16:41 GMT
#1294
On May 30 2009 23:46 sztuczyn wrote:
(P)Much vs (Z)hyvaa from CJ vs eSTRO

This game wad very frustrating for me.+ Show Spoiler [spoiler] +
As much as I like Much, I always hope for a zerg win.

On a side note, man Much played like a powerhouse this game, no more fooling around - weird all in zealots build. Good to see on his part.

Resistance ain't futile
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 17:50:45
May 30 2009 17:48 GMT
#1295
On May 31 2009 01:41 Murlox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 23:46 sztuczyn wrote:
(P)Much vs (Z)hyvaa from CJ vs eSTRO

This game wad very frustrating for me.+ Show Spoiler [spoiler] +
As much as I like Much, I always hope for a zerg win.

On a side note, man Much played like a powerhouse this game, no more fooling around - weird all in zealots build. Good to see on his part.


+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't think that build did much for (P)Much (lololol). (Z)hyvaa had air, overlord speed and lurker tech before much was in a position to do any damage with his +1 archon/zeal army, which pretty much negated it. At that point I thought he was probably going to lose, but (P)Much turned it around with some excellent DT raids followed up with conversion into traditional late-game 3gas Invincible Protoss Army(tm) play that (Z)hyvaa didn't have the economy to deal with.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 22:27:52
May 30 2009 21:39 GMT
#1296
On May 31 2009 02:48 malathion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 01:41 Murlox wrote:
On May 30 2009 23:46 sztuczyn wrote:
(P)Much vs (Z)hyvaa from CJ vs eSTRO

This game wad very frustrating for me.+ Show Spoiler [spoiler] +
As much as I like Much, I always hope for a zerg win.

On a side note, man Much played like a powerhouse this game, no more fooling around - weird all in zealots build. Good to see on his part.


+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't think that build did much for (P)Much (lololol). (Z)hyvaa had air, overlord speed and lurker tech before much was in a position to do any damage with his +1 archon/zeal army, which pretty much negated it. At that point I thought he was probably going to lose, but (P)Much turned it around with some excellent DT raids followed up with conversion into traditional late-game 3gas Invincible Protoss Army(tm) play that (Z)hyvaa didn't have the economy to deal with.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah when those lurkers were right in front of muchs base and he hadnt even pushed out yet I was like "uh oh.. wth is he supposed to do now" but thankfully he already had observers by that time


Anyways, amazing game! go watch much vs hyvaa, best ZvP ive seen in a while
I hope its an indicator of the quality of games were gonna have on the new map shades of twilight

If you like relentless aggression effort vs ryan is also recommended, short but sweet
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ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
May 30 2009 22:52 GMT
#1297
VOD for Effort vs. Ryan:

+ Show Spoiler +
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2122 Posts
May 31 2009 00:47 GMT
#1298
From the recent WeMade vs SK: Game 3
(P)(P)Bisu<Neo Medusa>(Z)(Z)keke
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +


Fun back and forth PvZ.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 05:52:42
May 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#1299
Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Round 5 Week 1:

KTF MagicNs vs Air Force ACE
(P)Violet<Heartbreak Ridge>(P)Anytime
For some fun one sided ownage.
(Z)HoeJJa<Shades of Twilight>(T)XellOs
For some pure awesomeness.

STX SouL vs MBCGame HERO
(Z)by.hero<Neo Medusa>(T)Light
For some unorthodox back and forth Action.

Gonna put vods when it's up.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
May 31 2009 06:04 GMT
#1300
Seconded on (T)XellOs vs (Z)HoeJJa
+ Show Spoiler +
PERFECT TERRAN
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