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On June 01 2009 22:45 Harem wrote:From Hwaseung vs Hite, another amazing match + Show Spoiler +Jaedong vs Leta ace match. Just amazing low eco play. + Show Spoiler + Thirding (fourthing?) this. Even better than you would expect from these two. Definitely one of the best games in recent weeks.
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Every one make sure to watch JD vs Leta, its worth fifthing.
About that game tho + Show Spoiler +I was somewhat disappointed with Leta's mid-game transition. He was getting diminishing returns from his vult attacks, and I think he should have switched gears and taken his nat much earlier. I know hindsight is 20-20, and that almost any other zerg would have buckled to Leta's play... but denying zerg their cross map 4th is pretty easy with decently macroed 2 base T. If he had denied that 4th for even a little while things would have gone very differently.
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United States12607 Posts
On June 01 2009 19:01 RaGe wrote: Hogil vs Hiya on Outsider from Hwaseung OZ vs Hite Sparkyz
no vod yet, but a very creative ZvT imo I really enjoyed this game...+ Show Spoiler +it's the perfect example of why IdrA was so scared to fight a zerg on Outsider...pro Zerg on easy 4 gas is absolutely terrifying. HoGiL could afford to have guards, queens, and defilers everywhere and still have enough left over for a big ultra-ling army...HiyA was never even in this one.
Great performance from HoGiL - HiyA needed a better game plan. I'll remember this set as an indicator of Outsider's Z>T imbalance, though.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Hogil vs Hiya is really fucking sweet
Jaedong vs Leta sucked, I don't know why you people are recommending it.
+ Show Spoiler +Okay, Jaedong had hacklike sense and caught leta's 8rax but other than that the game was a complete rape =/
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 02 2009 16:51 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 19:01 RaGe wrote: Hogil vs Hiya on Outsider from Hwaseung OZ vs Hite Sparkyz
no vod yet, but a very creative ZvT imo I really enjoyed this game... + Show Spoiler +it's the perfect example of why IdrA was so scared to fight a zerg on Outsider...pro Zerg on easy 4 gas is absolutely terrifying. HoGiL could afford to have guards, queens, and defilers everywhere and still have enough left over for a big ultra-ling army...HiyA was never even in this one.
Great performance from HoGiL - HiyA needed a better game plan. I'll remember this set as an indicator of Outsider's Z>T imbalance, though. + Show Spoiler +I dno, I really disagree with that. The game was really fucking close and Hiya looked like he might take the game many times. I don't really think its indicative of any imbalance, while Zerg's get an easy 3/4 gas you have to keep in mind that in doing so they basically forfeit those hatcheries from producing any ground units (other than drones) until hive. Knowing that, the zerg is basically forced into making Mutalisks (exactly what Hogil did). Meanwhile the Terran gets an easy 2gas/4mineral which is enough to cook up a scary Terran army. (like going 3base Terran on andromeda, but with extra minerals!!) Hiya could have probably used his dropships a bit better but imo overall it was a really close entertaining game.
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I liked jaedong vs leta + Show Spoiler +Because of jaedong's perfect play. Against any other zerg i think the outcome would have been different. Jaedong was so prepared for everything leta did. And leta's vult harass was entertaining to watch. It was pretty one sided for the majority of the game. Jaedong's sense of star that game was unbelievable.
About hogil vs hiya + Show Spoiler +I believe the game was close too in the sense that even though hogil blocked all of hiya's attack it was a very fragile game. One mistake and hiya would have won since he took both his nat and the 5 o clock main. But the game finisher was plague+irradiated ultra.
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Also, JangBi vs PianO from yesterdays match is worth watching.
VOD: + Show Spoiler +
Spoiler/info: + Show Spoiler +It's pretty one sided game, but the shuttle/reaver harass and some imba scarabs + one really cool mine drag were just amazing in that game  I was like "wow! wow! wow!"
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+ Show Spoiler +^ lol at first i was like man how many duds did that thing make! but persistence payed and multikills followed !
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On June 02 2009 20:48 fijosh wrote:Also, JangBi vs PianO from yesterdays match is worth watching. VOD: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSS54bx5JA Spoiler/info: + Show Spoiler +It's pretty one sided game, but the shuttle/reaver harass and some imba scarabs + one really cool mine drag were just amazing in that game  I was like "wow! wow! wow!" I don't agree with this game being recommended. It was pretty bad.
Casy vs Hoejja on the other hand.. awesomeness.
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On June 03 2009 03:55 meathook wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2009 20:48 fijosh wrote:Also, JangBi vs PianO from yesterdays match is worth watching. VOD: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSS54bx5JA Spoiler/info: + Show Spoiler +It's pretty one sided game, but the shuttle/reaver harass and some imba scarabs + one really cool mine drag were just amazing in that game  I was like "wow! wow! wow!" I don't agree with this game being recommended. It was pretty bad. Casy vs Hoejja on the other hand.. awesomeness.
I agree, Piano vs Jangbi was pretty bad + Show Spoiler + even though Jangbis reaver did a lot of damage it really isnt very impressive when Terran doesnt have a single turret, and when he finally has a wraith out immediately loses it to dragoons.. omg so bad..
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Jaedong vs Leta
+ Show Spoiler +The part I really liked was at around 16:30ish, when Jaedong was moving his lurkers away from Leta's nat. Note that he left one lurker burrowed, so that the tanks would automatically all target fire it - thus meaning he loses only one lurker, rather than the two or so he would have lost had he unburrowed all of them. That is quick thinking.
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On June 03 2009 05:03 The Raurosaur wrote:Jaedong vs Leta + Show Spoiler +The part I really liked was at around 16:30ish, when Jaedong was moving his lurkers away from Leta's nat. Note that he left one lurker burrowed, so that the tanks would automatically all target fire it - thus meaning he loses only one lurker, rather than the two or so he would have lost had he unburrowed all of them. That is quick thinking.
It'd be quick thinking only if it was the first time jd did that; however, I'm 99% sure that it happens million times in the practice.
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meathook&7mk + Show Spoiler +I didn't say the game was necesarilly good, I just liked the scarab hits at the end of the game and also the sneaky dragoon-drop minedrag 
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EffOrt vs Baby + Show Spoiler + comments: + Show Spoiler +i really think baby is going places, he has mad skills. im sure he owns anyone who is less than a great progamer in top form. one of the most exciting games ive seen in a while- as effOrt deals with some epic harass and still manages to build a better overall game.
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On June 03 2009 07:22 cUrsOr wrote:EffOrt vs Baby + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52aefe4egk comments: + Show Spoiler +i really think baby is going places, he has mad skills. im sure he owns anyone who is less than a great progamer in top form. one of the most exciting games ive seen in a while- as effOrt deals with some epic harass and still manages to build a better overall game. This guy is starting to become one of my favorite players of his race. His play is so cute. + Show Spoiler [game highlights (winner not spoiled)] +- Building barracks/factory on the ledge behind the main to fake a proxy.
- Following up with fake bunker rush.
- Wall-in--at the other guys base
- Dual starport cloaked wraith + dropship play.
- Held lurkers one-shotting an entire squad of marines.
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+ Show Spoiler +if baby had scanned the high ground expo before the held lurker incident I think he could have won. This is the 2nd time (that ive seen) baby has had epic wraith harass but couldn't pull out the win =/. I hope the build is feasible though, i love wraith micro lol.
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UFO vs PANDA was a fun match. I wonder if his wraith micro is what will win him the match with skyhigh
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On June 03 2009 07:22 cUrsOr wrote:EffOrt vs Baby + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52aefe4egk comments: + Show Spoiler +i really think baby is going places, he has mad skills. im sure he owns anyone who is less than a great progamer in top form. one of the most exciting games ive seen in a while- as effOrt deals with some epic harass and still manages to build a better overall game.
+ Show Spoiler +yeah man. Baby keeps getting more and more awesome every time i see him play (even his losses like this one). he's gonna have to change his name to Beast pretty soon
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United States12607 Posts
I thought + Show Spoiler + vs UpMagiC from last night's OSL Ro36 group was a fun little back-and-forth game. Plenty of vulture micro to look at.
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+ Show Spoiler [comments on game] +The observer was pointing out Canata cut mad SCVs - I understand this is ultimately why he lost the game, but what inspired the cut? Did Up really gain such a huge advantage from his first attack with that tank + ~3 vultures?
TvT is really complex strategy-wise.
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On June 03 2009 13:59 jonnyp wrote:+ Show Spoiler +if baby had scanned the high ground expo before the held lurker incident I think he could have won. This is the 2nd time (that ive seen) baby has had epic wraith harass but couldn't pull out the win =/. I hope the build is feasible though, i love wraith micro lol.
+ Show Spoiler + tbh I dont think it mattered that much even if the lurkers hadnt been on hold he still would have lost.
to me it seems like people often underestimate the damage you have to deal for 2 ports wraith to really be worth it
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