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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4205 Posts
March 24 2017 23:20 GMT
#901
Well specifically, it's Starcraft 2: Phoenix. That'd be weird if it turned out a remaster/remake of BW was thought of before 2010. That being said, I can't imagine an HD/Remake being in the pipeline for 7 years. Especially when according to that, it was supposed to released with HOTS?

I can't imagine them being related.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 23:26:22
March 24 2017 23:24 GMT
#902
On March 25 2017 05:25 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 03:43 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Someone mentioned we should have a SC2 vs BW thread, where is it? :D. But to get ontopic, do you guys think Blizzard is gonna do something about the maximum number of units/buildings you can have in a game? I mean the type of limit where you have 5-6 players all maxed out on 200/200 and you cant build anything, larvas wont spawn, ranged units wont shoot etc. I think that should atleast be fixed and I hope that it does, It's annoying trying to engage with your army and only 15% of them are actually attacking lol.

They might raise the map max, since it's not really a balance issue in 1v1 (the various other sprite limits come into play first). Whether the attack sprite limit will be touched is a harder call, since many think the Valkyrie would become much stronger without the limit, though I don't think anyone has experimented with hacking the value and then reenacting battles from replays to see if the change actually affects the outcome. Would be an interesting analysis.

Is valkyrie sprite issue seriously a problem in 1v1s?
Besides their use is very situational - vessel/m&m is better vs clumps of mutas, the best use i've found is in TvT against wraiths where they have actually won me a game or two.Again not an ultra common scenario.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4397 Posts
March 24 2017 23:33 GMT
#903
On March 25 2017 06:58 duke91 wrote:


On a sidenote, Patrick Wyatt said

Show nested quote +
Later in the development process, and after many design arguments between team-members, we decided to allow players to select only four units at a time based on the idea that users would be required to pay attention to their tactical deployments rather than simply gathering a mob and sending them into the fray all at once.


from here http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/429573-broodwar-and-starcraft-2-pathing

Already in 1995, people found deathballs a shitty idea.

To be fair though 4 daemons was all you needed to destroy most bases lol.Ridiculously overpowered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19197 Posts
March 25 2017 01:14 GMT
#904
On March 25 2017 08:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 05:25 gngfn wrote:
On March 25 2017 03:43 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Someone mentioned we should have a SC2 vs BW thread, where is it? :D. But to get ontopic, do you guys think Blizzard is gonna do something about the maximum number of units/buildings you can have in a game? I mean the type of limit where you have 5-6 players all maxed out on 200/200 and you cant build anything, larvas wont spawn, ranged units wont shoot etc. I think that should atleast be fixed and I hope that it does, It's annoying trying to engage with your army and only 15% of them are actually attacking lol.

They might raise the map max, since it's not really a balance issue in 1v1 (the various other sprite limits come into play first). Whether the attack sprite limit will be touched is a harder call, since many think the Valkyrie would become much stronger without the limit, though I don't think anyone has experimented with hacking the value and then reenacting battles from replays to see if the change actually affects the outcome. Would be an interesting analysis.

Is valkyrie sprite issue seriously a problem in 1v1s?
Besides their use is very situational - vessel/m&m is better vs clumps of mutas, the best use i've found is in TvT against wraiths where they have actually won me a game or two.Again not an ultra common scenario.

Yeah. During a recent ASL game (flash vs sea I think?) there were 2 wraith balls duking it out with some valks sitting around unable to shoot
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-25 01:26:05
March 25 2017 01:25 GMT
#905
On March 25 2017 10:14 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 08:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On March 25 2017 05:25 gngfn wrote:
On March 25 2017 03:43 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Someone mentioned we should have a SC2 vs BW thread, where is it? :D. But to get ontopic, do you guys think Blizzard is gonna do something about the maximum number of units/buildings you can have in a game? I mean the type of limit where you have 5-6 players all maxed out on 200/200 and you cant build anything, larvas wont spawn, ranged units wont shoot etc. I think that should atleast be fixed and I hope that it does, It's annoying trying to engage with your army and only 15% of them are actually attacking lol.

They might raise the map max, since it's not really a balance issue in 1v1 (the various other sprite limits come into play first). Whether the attack sprite limit will be touched is a harder call, since many think the Valkyrie would become much stronger without the limit, though I don't think anyone has experimented with hacking the value and then reenacting battles from replays to see if the change actually affects the outcome. Would be an interesting analysis.

Is valkyrie sprite issue seriously a problem in 1v1s?
Besides their use is very situational - vessel/m&m is better vs clumps of mutas, the best use i've found is in TvT against wraiths where they have actually won me a game or two.Again not an ultra common scenario.

Yeah. During a recent ASL game (flash vs sea I think?) there were 2 wraith balls duking it out with some valks sitting around unable to shoot

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fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
March 25 2017 02:01 GMT
#906
Fish Administation will update you if we can support it
Sebyul Server W.I.P.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 25 2017 03:22 GMT
#907
On March 25 2017 07:39 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything on this roadmap from 2010 has come out or been officially changed:

[image loading]

Bnet2 map market and 3rd parties: scrapped? But it was supposed to launch with Blizzard Dota, which became Heroes of the Storm

Diablo 3 X2: Scrapped into DLC and patch content

WOW TCG: Became Hearthstone

Titan: Became Overwatch

The only real mystery on this chart is what exactly Starcraft: Phoenix is, and we might find out in a few days.


I think Phoenix was Heroes of the Storm.
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
March 25 2017 03:52 GMT
#908
On March 24 2017 19:13 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 14:04 ShambhalaWar wrote:
On March 22 2017 09:17 TT1 wrote:
On March 22 2017 08:50 ShambhalaWar wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:58 ROOTFayth wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:37 TT1 wrote:
play the game nerds, less theorycrafting

it's not out yet u faggit


On March 22 2017 08:27 TT1 wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:58 ROOTFayth wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:37 TT1 wrote:
play the game nerds, less theorycrafting

it's not out yet u faggit


ITS NOT OUT? BW'S NOT OUT YET? SAYS THE FATHER OF PROTOSS GAYNESS.


Hey guys, the 1980's called... They told me to tell you they wanted their homophobic slurs back.


90's actually, almost every person who played/followed BW were 90's kids. We grew up in a savage culture, you missed the no filter heydays of TL.net.

edit: btw for w/e its worth Fayth was kidding, we've known each other for a looooooooong time.


In my world, someone being gay doesn't imply something negative. My guess is that it doesn't mean that for you either, yet you use the word as a derogatory term.

Not as crude as "faggit," but still... taking something that's completely normal and co-oping it to use as an insult.

As I said before, in the 80's people that actually demonized homosexuality, hence why "the 1980's called..." Sure it still happened in the 90's as well and sadly today it still occurs.


You're right, bad habits. I had a gay friend in uni who didn't mind us saying "gay" (to convey a negative feeling) in front of him but out of respect we never said the "f word". Obviously we tried to avoid saying either words when he was around but sometimes it just slipped.

Because of the way i grew up I always felt like "gay" was more of a borderline word (when used to convey a negative feeling) but now i realize that saying it in front of a general audience is just bad judgement. When you're sitting behind your monitor by yourself it's sometimes easy to forget that you're in a community with thousands of other people who all have different views. It's best to just be respectful and avoid these types of situations.

Unfortunately for 90's kids the "f word" in particular is a big part of our lexicon, the word wasn't taboo'd at the time and society didn't teach us any better. Imo a lot people from my generation are desensitized to those words just because of how commonly we used them.. to the point where they're almost hard-wired into our brains now.

That being said, i think it's common sense now to avoid saying the "f word" altogether in front of a general audience (anywhere online like on twitter, threads, streams etc., goes without saying in a public setting irl). But i won't lie to you, when i'm w/ a group of close friends it's still a very commonly used word for us and i think that statement holds true for a lot of people in my age group. With time all those words will eventually get weeded out tho.. us savage 80's and 90's kids will one day turn to dust .

TLDR: sorry <3

P.S: Fayth sincerely feels bad and wanted me to apologize for him. I've known the guy for a while, on the outside he's a dirty dt dropper but deep (AND I MEAN DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP <3 kaka) down he's a really good dude.

Alright alright sorry, enough derailing. Onto more D rank banter on BW mechanics~~ ^_^


You just earned BIG respect in my book. Thank you.

I also grew up during the 80's-90's, so I'll turn to dust with you bro.

My childhood culture was one where people got routinely shamed and ostracized for normal shit. All those words were also part of my lexicon before I even knew what they meant. I've said the same things and it was when someone told me how it affected them that I understood the impact and decided to break the habits.

I'm just trying to do the same thing that person did for me.

Thanks again for keeping an open mind and discussion about it.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
March 25 2017 04:13 GMT
#909
On March 25 2017 12:22 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 07:39 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything on this roadmap from 2010 has come out or been officially changed:

[image loading]

Bnet2 map market and 3rd parties: scrapped? But it was supposed to launch with Blizzard Dota, which became Heroes of the Storm

Diablo 3 X2: Scrapped into DLC and patch content

WOW TCG: Became Hearthstone

Titan: Became Overwatch

The only real mystery on this chart is what exactly Starcraft: Phoenix is, and we might find out in a few days.


I think Phoenix was Heroes of the Storm.


This was what I assumed too.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2017 05:59 GMT
#910
On March 25 2017 06:42 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
definitely should have a BW vs SC2 thread haha


good idea, and maybe I should become a mod just to moderate that thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 25 2017 06:12 GMT
#911
On March 25 2017 13:13 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 12:22 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On March 25 2017 07:39 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything on this roadmap from 2010 has come out or been officially changed:

[image loading]

Bnet2 map market and 3rd parties: scrapped? But it was supposed to launch with Blizzard Dota, which became Heroes of the Storm

Diablo 3 X2: Scrapped into DLC and patch content

WOW TCG: Became Hearthstone

Titan: Became Overwatch

The only real mystery on this chart is what exactly Starcraft: Phoenix is, and we might find out in a few days.


I think Phoenix was Heroes of the Storm.


This was what I assumed too.


Actually I have to correct you (and myself), Phoenix was the Battle.net Desktop Agent (now called Blizzard App).
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
March 25 2017 09:22 GMT
#912
On March 25 2017 14:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 06:42 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
definitely should have a BW vs SC2 thread haha


good idea, and maybe I should become a mod just to moderate that thread.


Shall I go and create it then? :D
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6817 Posts
March 25 2017 10:00 GMT
#913
19 hours
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 25 2017 10:03 GMT
#914
I thought this was today -.-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
March 25 2017 10:04 GMT
#915
On March 25 2017 19:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I thought this was today -.-

Depending on where you live, it *is* today ^^.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1707 Posts
March 25 2017 10:06 GMT
#916
Damn, I wrote a long post saying why I think this is likely to be a very negative development, actually backed up by reasoning and all that good stuff, but my crappy connection got the post lost in the ether.

Suffice to say: don't be naive. This is a significant danger to the health of our entire scene and its future.
EleGant[AoV]
Heyjoray
Profile Joined September 2015
240 Posts
March 25 2017 10:21 GMT
#917
On March 25 2017 19:06 ImbaTosS wrote:
Damn, I wrote a long post saying why I think this is likely to be a very negative development, actually backed up by reasoning and all that good stuff, but my crappy connection got the post lost in the ether.

Suffice to say: don't be naive. This is a significant danger to the health of our entire scene and its future.

What exactly is the future?
JacktheTerr
Profile Blog Joined November 2016
United States97 Posts
March 25 2017 10:31 GMT
#918
On March 25 2017 19:21 Heyjoray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:06 ImbaTosS wrote:
Damn, I wrote a long post saying why I think this is likely to be a very negative development, actually backed up by reasoning and all that good stuff, but my crappy connection got the post lost in the ether.

Suffice to say: don't be naive. This is a significant danger to the health of our entire scene and its future.

What exactly is the future?


the future my good sir is exactly as it is now but later. albeit to say if this does change things the future wouldn't be as it is now. it may be worse or better who knows? that's the main question here. better or worse. what most ppl dislike is the idea of change, cause change in an almost 20 yr old game could almost certainly mean death. so the real question is change this and it dies or change this and it prospers. i for one an not willing to take this risk.
It's hard to stay sucker free in a world full of lollipops.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1707 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-25 11:14:09
March 25 2017 11:13 GMT
#919
On March 25 2017 19:21 Heyjoray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:06 ImbaTosS wrote:
Damn, I wrote a long post saying why I think this is likely to be a very negative development, actually backed up by reasoning and all that good stuff, but my crappy connection got the post lost in the ether.

Suffice to say: don't be naive. This is a significant danger to the health of our entire scene and its future.

What exactly is the future?

Both the current trajectory, and the history of our game which demonstrates incredible longevity, contribute to an understandably positive view of the future. Introducing changes (and, dare I say it, an untrustworthy new governing body and owner of all things who does not essentially act out of a love for the game), unquestionably threaten that current trajectory, and the conditions on which it is predicated.
EleGant[AoV]
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 25 2017 11:24 GMT
#920
On March 25 2017 19:04 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I thought this was today -.-

Depending on where you live, it *is* today ^^.

KST is the only T.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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