Mod note: It is likely that this is an internal testing version not intended to be public yet. Battle.net reportedly does not work after patching, which indicates that it's not yet "released".
mod edit: It is likely that this is an internal testing version not intended to be public yet. Battle.net reportedly does not work after patching, which indicates that it's not yet "released".
Download link: ftp.blizzard.com I according to the old http://ftp.blizzard.com to guess the SC-1170 patch. Yes,I guess successfully.This is:SC-1170.exe If BW-1170 is the fake,it will not have SC-1170.Please trust blizzard!
Starcraft and Brood War Patch Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - patch 1.17.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Specific Changes & Improvements
- Increased turn rate to lower unit response times over Battle.net gameplay - Fixed palette issues to correct "rainbow water" and other graphic artifacts - Fixed text artifacting in the Battle.net menus - First client run will migrate saves to avoid issues from Windows system admin changes
Known Issue
- Mac is not supported this patch, but is in progress
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch.
I can not find this patch anywhere.but the link is really blizzard link ,I think this patch is the beta patch
Prove to us that that is a blizzard link. People can easily make a fake website and run it.
You can download blizzard patches in this ,though the ftp.blizzard.com cannot open ,but the https://web.archive.org/ canont fake you.you can see the 199X-2014 year's blizzard.
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
On July 26 2016 06:11 iFU.pauline wrote: Blizzard never released a patch that is not downloadable via battle.net. "no joke"
you should know the ftp is the old update. ftp.blizzard.com is the blizzard. But this cannot open content after 2014.But the download thing still can download
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
It only Fixed palette issues to correct "rainbow water" and other graphic artifacts for win7 the bn cannot support.
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
On July 26 2016 06:23 iFU.pauline wrote: Just close this damn thread, this is pure bullshit, you never had to download a new patch from their ftp on release. 100% scam
On July 26 2016 06:23 iFU.pauline wrote: Just close this damn thread, this is pure bullshit, you never had to download a new patch from their ftp on release. 100% scam
its real, signed by blizzard
Can you get on Skype? I tried patching, but i can't.
On July 26 2016 06:23 iFU.pauline wrote: Just close this damn thread, this is pure bullshit, you never had to download a new patch from their ftp on release. 100% scam
its real, signed by blizzard
Thank you your trust! IF you still can't believe this ,you can look ftp.blizzard.com on https://web.archive.org/
Why blizzard no push this link ,I think this patch is beta edition .The mac patch is still in progress The battle.net edition is 1.16.1,But this patch is 1.17. I think blizzard is deliberately to do this .
On July 26 2016 06:23 iFU.pauline wrote: Just close this damn thread, this is pure bullshit, you never had to download a new patch from their ftp on release. 100% scam
its real, signed by blizzard
Can you get on Skype? I tried patching, but i can't.
I can patching on 1.16.1 edition. If you can't ,try to redownload a new starcraft and update to 1.16.1,then patching 1.17.0 .
1) Do you know when this patch was available on the FTP? 2) Everything seems cosmetic except the first one -- changing turn rates may affect balance. Can you play the game on 1.17.0 to confirm if turn rates are noticeably faster? Experiment with some slow turn rate units such as the Valkyrie.
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server, url can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server url, can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
i know. but ftp.blizzard.com is still a domain owned by blizzard
On July 26 2016 06:55 Clyt wrote: The people who doesn‘t believe it are silly.
This account was registered today and it has a grand total of 2 posts, both in this thread supporting the OP, who also seems to be of chinese origin and also uses broken english/bad grammar.
On July 26 2016 06:55 Clyt wrote: The people who doesn‘t believe it are silly.
This account was registered today and it has a grand total of 2 posts, both in this thread supporting the OP, who also seems to be of chinese origin and also uses broken english/bad grammar.
But what I said is the truth.I am the friend of the original poster.And if you don’t you can enter "blizzard.com" and you will find the truth.
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server url, can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
i know. but ftp.blizzard.com is still a domain owned by blizzard
yes ftp.blizzard.com is blizzard but not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you try ftp.blizzard.com/pub/broodwar/patches/PC/BW-1170.exe
you'll see that you can't connect...this is 100% scam http://ftp.blizzard.com is not blizzard.
I don‘t know why "https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/classic-game-patches" don’t update the url,but if you pay attention to the url of the patch in it you will find the urls are both "http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/broodwar/patches/PC/"
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server, url can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
Why would ftp.blizzard.com take you to a site with HTTP? Entirely different protocol. Do people really believe this guy have DNS hijacked blizzard.com or something? Even if you do, the registration information is easily obtainable.
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server, url can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
If you still believe it,you can run it by virtual machine.Though I think you don‘t know how to use virtual machine even you don't what it is.
On July 26 2016 07:25 IntoTheheart wrote: Hey mods, is there a consensus on whether or not this is real/legit?
Not a mod, but
On July 26 2016 07:09 xboi209 wrote: This is a legitimate patch, the link comes from an official url owned by Blizzard, the patch is digitally signed on July 11, 2016 at 9:04 AM.
All of the font and sound utility downloads on this page link to http://ftp.blizzard.com. People claiming it's a scam should do a simple google search before posting false information in a thread.
On July 26 2016 06:48 LaStScan wrote: I played on SC Patch 1.17.0. I didn't notice any differences.
Well once all your passwords and credit card number will be stolen, surely in few days you will notice a difference HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
btw amazing, when you enter ftp.blizzard.com you ping ftp://blizzard.com not http://ftp.blizzard.com if you connect to a ftp server, url can't start with http, it is not the same protocol even using an internet browser.
Why do you have to talk like a douche bag? Not sure why you are thinking that I'm stupid enough that my card will get stolen. Too bad that you don't know anything about Korean online bank system. I closed my US bank account in the U.S. long time ago.
Just for you to know how Korean bank works. Korean bank website doesn't always require you to type your damn ID. We have an another way of using security certificate file(that is downloaded from your account setting). We also need to install security program(s) to log in before you get an access to log in. Password requires at least one from each special alphabet(such as !, @, #, etc), upper and lower case, and number. If you want to transfer the money through online, you need a OTP(One Time Password) number which is from the little remote looking item.
Btw, I didn't know you are that much of a faggot. I will forgive you if you are planning to apologize after you read my post.
Also, who saves bank ID or password on web browser?
All of the font and sound utility downloads on this page link to http://ftp.blizzard.com. People claiming it's a scam should do a simple google search before posting false information in a thread.
Why you should not download this malware:
1. New account makes post asking you to download mysterious exe file.
2. A different new account shills for the first new account encouraging everyone to download it.
3. Both accounts are from China, known for their elaborate internet scams.
4. Consider what you have to gain from downloading potential malware vs. what you lose from not downloading it. i. You gain potentailly early access to single player on a new patch that does not change anything. ii. You expose yourself to risk of getting malware. iii. Not downloading it means you continue playing BW the way you always have.
5. Why should you listen to me (also a new account)? Because I'm telling you not to perform a risky action with no benefit to yourself.
You don't believe us chinese but after a period of time,when blizzard release the patch,you will find the download url are the same,we are right,and we are 中国人。
All of the font and sound utility downloads on this page link to http://ftp.blizzard.com. People claiming it's a scam should do a simple google search before posting false information in a thread.
Why you should not download this malware:
1. New account makes post asking you to download mysterious exe file.
2. A different new account shills for the first new account encouraging everyone to download it.
3. Both accounts are from China, known for their elaborate internet scams.
4. Consider what you have to gain from downloading potential malware vs. what you lose from not downloading it. i. You gain potentailly early access to single player on a new patch that does not change anything. ii. You expose yourself to risk of getting malware. iii. Not downloading it means you continue playing BW the way you always have.
5. Why should you listen to me (also a new account)? Because I'm telling you not to perform a risky action with no benefit to yourself.
Ok so you're not disputing that http://ftp.blizzard.com is an official Blizzard domain. Just so I understand you correctly, you're claiming that hackers, possibly Chinese ones, uploaded a file to an official Blizzard server?
All of the font and sound utility downloads on this page link to http://ftp.blizzard.com. People claiming it's a scam should do a simple google search before posting false information in a thread.
Why you should not download this malware:
1. New account makes post asking you to download mysterious exe file.
2. A different new account shills for the first new account encouraging everyone to download it.
3. Both accounts are from China, known for their elaborate internet scams.
4. Consider what you have to gain from downloading potential malware vs. what you lose from not downloading it. i. You gain potentailly early access to single player on a new patch that does not change anything. ii. You expose yourself to risk of getting malware. iii. Not downloading it means you continue playing BW the way you always have.
5. Why should you listen to me (also a new account)? Because I'm telling you not to perform a risky action with no benefit to yourself.
The japanese alway are sinister.I know you said 大日本帝国 deliberately,and I am not angry,because I don't be angry with pigs.
Can someone who has taken the risk to dl do a comparison on the "turn rate". If they change unit acceleration, that could significantly effect gameplay.
Blizzard has been going around making qol changes to the legacy games. They are currently working on brood war don't know if this is the patch they are working on or not but it may be legit.
well blizzard owns that domain, but i dont think they would host patches for share on there
It's real. Blizzard has hosted patches on ftp.blizzard.com forever. I guess people forgot that since they started hosting game clients directly on Battle.net and streaming updates through the Battle.net desktop agent.
Tibet before 1949 was under slavery. It's right Tibet is not free, so Tibet should have the right to choose slavery again. It's also right America is not free. People should have the right to buy slaves. Americans are forced to abandon slavery!
On July 26 2016 08:55 shin ken wrote: what's up with all the new accounts in this thread Oo
Because I am Chinese.I often focus teamliquid.But I seldom reply on it. Sorry.I often reply on Chinese forum[Baidu tieba]
别喂那群傻逼 谢谢您为TL提供消息
On July 26 2016 13:39 Wrath wrote: So what is faster turn rates is?
i've tested online. seems like they remove some of the inbuilt ingame latency. but not all of it for people who played on fish server, its like having default #l2
Amusement of the comments in this thread aside, it is interesting that Blizzard would make a binary available to the public even when it apparently still has major bugs (eg not working on battle.net). Someone definitely goofed.
If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
The reason the scheme (http) is different from the subdomain (ftp) is because it's an HTTP gateway for their FTP server. In other words, the files are stored on an FTP server, but it's served to you through HTTP for compatibility reasons, and the entire process is transparent to you. This has traditionally been done because FTP is a weird protocol that opens a lot of ports and doesn't play well with firewalls. Furthermore, most web browsers don't have built-in FTP support anymore (Chrome and Firefox don't, for instance, unless you download an extension). The fact that ftp://ftp.blizzard.com/ doesn't work is irrelevant, since they can easily set up a server that is directly accessible only to other servers on their network (this is essentially how a load balancer works, after all).
Also, the domain (blizzard.com) is completely separate from the protocol used. blizzard.com is blizzard.com no matter what protocol is used. Only the registrant for blizzard.com (Blizzard) can create a subdomain for blizzard.com (which is what ftp.blizzard.com is). This is how DNS works. It's a hierarchy.
Finally, Blizzard has distributed patches over this URL for forever. I remember downloading Warcraft II patches over it. It was the only way to get them since Battle.net didn't exist yet.
On July 26 2016 16:27 typhoonius wrote: The reason the scheme (http) is different from the subdomain (ftp) is because it's an HTTP gateway for their FTP server. In other words, the files are stored on an FTP server, but it's served to you through HTTP for compatibility reasons, and the entire process is transparent to you. This has traditionally been done because FTP is a weird protocol that opens a lot of ports and doesn't play well with firewalls. Furthermore, most web browsers don't have built-in FTP support anymore (Chrome and Firefox don't, for instance, unless you download an extension). The fact that ftp://ftp.blizzard.com/ doesn't work is irrelevant, since they can easily set up a server that is directly accessible only to other servers on their network (this is essentially how a load balancer works, after all).
Also, the domain (blizzard.com) is completely separate from the protocol used. blizzard.com is blizzard.com no matter what protocol is used. Only the registrant for blizzard.com (Blizzard) can create a subdomain for blizzard.com (which is what ftp.blizzard.com is). This is how DNS works. It's a hierarchy.
Finally, Blizzard has distributed patches over this URL for forever. I remember downloading Warcraft II patches over it. It was the only way to get them since Battle.net didn't exist yet.
Greatly appreciate for your trust! I want to say that,But I am Chiness,my English is so bad.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
I'm betting the only reason this got dumped on their FTP was because somebody was probably doing remote work, so they're working with the FTP than with their internal sharing tools...
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
You can't spoof a URL like that; you can spoof an email coming from (let's say) battle.net, but the url you see in the bottom bar is what you're getting, unless they've hijacked Blizzard's web server or your DNS... in which case, if you're malicious, you PROBABLY don't care much about an 18 year old game when there's overwatch and wow accounts to be stolen.
also ftp.blizzard is a known safe url, if you've ever had to manually download WoW patches and such
Works, to be honest so far it looks awesome.. and yes it doesnt work with Iccup or Battlenet just yet but seems more compatible, more fluid and less laggy, just as if you were playing the game fullscreen on a Windows XP PC.
Hope this comes up and ShieldBattery project does too.. we may live something amazing :O
On July 26 2016 23:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm not happy until they patch vultures so they start with 9 spidermines and hatch clusters of 3 mines at a time.
i thought you play protoss? Sounds like a very masochistic idea to me (;
On July 26 2016 23:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm not happy until they patch vultures so they start with 9 spidermines and hatch clusters of 3 mines at a time.
i thought you play protoss? Sounds like a very masochistic idea to me (;
It's sick what I'm about to say, but there is no greater pleasure then watching a tank blow itself up from a zealot mine drag. I feel the pleasure will be even more intense if 3 mines were dragged into tanks. Terrans will have a harder time with positioning if more mines were littered on the field. It's their funeral if we increase mines.
On July 27 2016 01:19 B-royal wrote: Is there any value to this patch?
fixing graphic glitches makes the game work better for win 8/10 users, the respond time improvement can perhaps Lan latency plugins, but we'd have to see.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
How can you guys confirm it improves the battle.net interface and reduces the delay on battle.net server if there is no server works with this patch to test with?
On July 27 2016 01:19 B-royal wrote: Is there any value to this patch?
Lan latency plugins, but we'd have to see.
@ BD: hehe ^^
PLEASE LAN FIX! <3 I see so many people struggling with this issue, including myself but thankfully it works for me (barely)
Thing is my latency is 163 when I get into the Bnet or into somebody's lobby.. BUT when I create a game my ping increases to 400 LOL... @Blizzard please read this humble comment and give us a hand with an small fix :@
Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
How did you patch? I couldn't patch.
Maybe it's because your BW IIRC using too many modifications, SC2 unit sounds, etc. Try on clean installation. EDIT: Apparently I checked log when error occured on mine too, it says I need to put BW (I deleted it) where I installed it before f.e. C:\Games. Also you can't install patch on iCCup (mini) version, need original full one.
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
If it does work and it's not too much work for you, mind uploading a video on the gameplay if the turn speeds feel different to you?
I'll try.
EDIT: Wow, this fucking patch is real deal. Battle.net rank icons are showing (you can connect to Fish but can't join games), I didn't sense stuttering and lag. THIS IS THE SHIT GUYS! Stop blaming OP.
EDIT2: Actually I couldn't record because laptop which I'm testing Win10 is little netbook which is intended for basic job thus got really bad VGA so graphic card doesn't allow to record - output is really laggy. But the difference is huge from 1.16.1. Everyone with Win10 should try out, only blind won't see comparison.
EDIT3: Also wanna point out that map FS isn't loading for some reason. So patch is still raw.
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
If it does work and it's not too much work for you, mind uploading a video on the gameplay if the turn speeds feel different to you?
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
How did you patch? I couldn't patch.
Maybe it's because your BW IIRC using too many modifications, SC2 unit sounds, etc. Try on clean installation. EDIT: Apparently I checked log when error occured on mine too, it says I need to put BW (I deleted it) where I installed it before f.e. C:\Games. Also you can't install patch on iCCup (mini) version, need original full one.
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
If it does work and it's not too much work for you, mind uploading a video on the gameplay if the turn speeds feel different to you?
I'll try.
EDIT: Wow, this fucking patch is real deal. Battle.net rank icons are showing (you can connect to Fish but can't join games), I didn't sense stuttering and lag. THIS IS THE SHIT GUYS! Stop blaming OP.
EDIT2: Actually I couldn't record because laptop which I'm testing Win10 is little netbook which is intended for basic job thus got really bad VGA so graphic card doesn't allow to record - output is really laggy. But the difference is huge from 1.16.1. Everyone with Win10 should try out, only blind won't see comparison.
EDIT3: Also wanna point out that map FS isn't loading for some reason. So patch is still raw.
what about the response time of clicks ?? I hate muta micro-ing with high latency.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
from testing it feels like networkmodedelay is now 2 (or #l2). pre 1.17 the default used to be 5.
you still need to use the lowlatency program to completely remove latency...which needs to be updated as it doesn't work with 1.17 (guess changed offsets)
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: EDIT3: Also wanna point out that map FS isn't loading for some reason. So patch is still raw.
Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Removing LAN? How will tournaments play? Log on Asia server? WTF?
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Removing LAN? How will tournaments play? Log on Asia server? WTF?
There are two protocols whose names start with "Local Area Network". Everyone uses Local Area Network (UDP).
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Removing LAN? How will tournaments play? Log on Asia server? WTF?
There are two protocols whose names start with "Local Area Network". Everyone uses Local Area Network (UDP).
any idea if i will be able to play lan between laptop and pc using only internet cable or between two laptops using only their wireless connection?
On July 27 2016 20:07 Tapppi wrote: I loved all the skeptics in this thread not listening to reason and then just disappearing into the wind :D
This patch is super duper awesome though!
As a network/security IT engineer, reading this thread was painful It's crazy how people can talk out of their arse and throw words they don't understand.
Anyway as has already been said ftp.blizzard.com has been used since .... forever to host patches for all of blizzard games. But it's pretty clear they didn't intend people to download this version yet
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Removing LAN? How will tournaments play? Log on Asia server? WTF?
There are two protocols whose names start with "Local Area Network". Everyone uses Local Area Network (UDP).
any idea if i will be able to play lan between laptop and pc using only internet cable or between two laptops using only their wireless connection?
Yes this will still work. What they are removing is IPX aka a protocol no one uses anymore. I don't think they will ever remove LAN from starcraft1
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I can't imagine many people use ipx, serial, or modem connections given that network interfaces are no longer optional like they were when starcraft came out. I wonder how well it did play on serial, my experience with AOE1 was that it worked alright but eventually went out of sync.
I'm probably the only one to notice but running starcraft on 9x/NT4/2000 will no longer be possible as they are using a quite a few newer APIs and it would appear it is no longer compiled with MSVC 6.0. Not that its really surprising just something I noticed.
The disbelievers are cute, but their disbelief is understandable because this is information that isn't really -super- well known. I mean, it's nothing fancy, but it's just that scanning URLs via bruteforce isn't something that occurs to most people.
This is exactly how every fansite has scanned for new patches for years - this is how mmo-champion and wowhead detected new patches when Blizzard was on the old protocol. In fact, this is how Blizzard accidentally leaked the alpha for one of the WoW expansions, many years ago (and gave us a nice C&D for covering it, RIP).
You take a known real patch URL, say, the ftp.blizzard.com download link for 1.16, then you bruteforce various potential new numbers repeatedly (probably, [1-2].[1-2][0-9] with an optional a-z in this case) and spam eternally. Have the program send you an email when it gets something that isn't a 404/500.
Of course, this doesn't work anymore because of NGDP, Blizzard's new download protocol, which ensures that all URLs like this are hashed and basically unguessable. However, old games are not using that system (or even the system that existed before that, lol).
I'm actually mildly surprised that the SC community doesn't have a tool for doing this kind of scanning running on at least one PC.
On July 28 2016 00:35 dcemuser wrote: The disbelievers are cute.
This is exactly how every fansite has scanned for new patches for years - this is how mmo-champion and wowhead detected new patches when Blizzard was on the old protocol. In fact, this is how Blizzard accidentally leaked the alpha for one of the WoW expansions, many years ago.
You take a known real patch URL, say, the ftp.blizzard.com download link for 1.16, then you bruteforce various potential new numbers repeatedly (probably, [1-2].[1-2][0-9] with an optional a-z in this case) and spam eternally. Have the program send you an email when it gets something that isn't a 404/500.
Of course, this doesn't work anymore because of NGDP, but old games are not using that system (or even the system that existed before that, lol).
I'm mildly surprised that the SC community doesn't have a tool like this running on at least one PC.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Removing LAN? How will tournaments play? Log on Asia server? WTF?
Just the IPX protocol, which has been deprecated for a long time now. TCP/UDP is the de facto standard today.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
Could you explain the point then? Right now it seems like you think it might be spoofed because of the ftp part despite it being a blizzard.com domain.
On July 28 2016 02:46 Valeranth wrote: Could you explain the point then? Right now it seems like you think it might be spoofed because of the ftp part despite it being a blizzard.com domain.
Seems like that is what he thinks, yes. He's just clueless. He seems to think the protocol portion of the URL is part of the domain, and clearly just doesn't grasp how DNS functions.
Obviously whoever controls the DNS for blizzard.com has control over the response to any DNS query regarding blizzard.com regardless of subdomain or protocol. So yeah with a basic understanding of the internet it is easy to see that if any link of the form X://Y.blizzard.com/ is bringing us to a compromised server then blizzard.com must itself be compromised. This idea that ftp://ftp.blizzard.com could be legit while http://ftp.blizzard.com is somehow a scam URL is pure nonsense. I would love to hear an explanation of how this spoofing would supposedly be accomplished.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
Could you explain the point then? Right now it seems like you think it might be spoofed because of the ftp part despite it being a blizzard.com domain.
No, I don't think it's spoofed but it was part of my initial suspicions (I read about spoofed URLs later). When I said I'm skeptical exactly because I know how the internet works that was a general statement. Just because of how the internet can screw you such as man-in-the-middle-attack, IP address spoof, e-mail spoof, etc. While I'm not a network security guy, I'm a software engineer so I'm cautious what I do. Better safe than sorry. No need for some people to be assholes, really (I don't mean you specifically when I reply to your post).
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
No, you missed the point. He clearly understands more than you do. Stop posting non-sense. Yes, we know there's spoofing, but as was already concluded, this is not the case here, so just stop.
On July 28 2016 03:48 Shield wrote: No, I don't think it's spoofed but it was part of my initial suspicions (I read about spoofed URLs later). When I said I'm skeptical exactly because I know how the internet works that was a general statement. Just because of how the internet can screw you such as man-in-the-middle-attack, IP address spoof, e-mail spoof, etc. While I'm not a network security guy, I'm a software engineer so I'm cautious what I do. Better safe than sorry. No need for some people to be assholes, really (I don't mean you specifically when I reply to your post).
You were the bigger asshole there, especially considering he was right (plus, you were the first to directly insult by saying he's stupid, when in fact, he understands more than you do). Yes, you know something about spoofing/etc., but when people who know more than you say it's not, it's time to shut up and listen/learn, instead of digging yourself deeper into the hole. It will benefit you more in the long run.
That being said, I understand what you were trying to say, and it's a generally valid point, and a good rule of thumb. You just gotta present it better and not react like that, especially when people already addressed that point.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
No, you missed the point. He clearly understands more than you do. Stop posting non-sense. Yes, we know there's spoofing, but as was already concluded, this is not the case here, so just stop.
On July 28 2016 03:48 Shield wrote: No, I don't think it's spoofed but it was part of my initial suspicions (I read about spoofed URLs later). When I said I'm skeptical exactly because I know how the internet works that was a general statement. Just because of how the internet can screw you such as man-in-the-middle-attack, IP address spoof, e-mail spoof, etc. While I'm not a network security guy, I'm a software engineer so I'm cautious what I do. Better safe than sorry. No need for some people to be assholes, really (I don't mean you specifically when I reply to your post).
You were the bigger asshole there, especially considering he was right (plus, you were the first to directly insult by saying he's stupid, when in fact, he understands more than you do). Yes, you know something about spoofing/etc., but when people who know more than you say it's not, it's time to shut up and listen/learn, instead of digging yourself deeper into the hole. It will benefit you more in the long run.
That being said, I understand what you were trying to say, and it's a generally valid point, and a good rule of thumb. You just gotta present it better and not react like that, especially when people already addressed that point.
It's not about if he understands more or not. It's about his exaggeration, "stop talking before you really hurt someone". No one is physically hurt. Not even emotionally. I still stand by my question to him earlier.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Any evidence that they are looking to remove those protocols? Are those logs being transmitted automatically over Bnet?
Back in the day I used null modem cables to play with a friend Ethernet deprecated all those protocols :/
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
No, you missed the point. He clearly understands more than you do. Stop posting non-sense. Yes, we know there's spoofing, but as was already concluded, this is not the case here, so just stop.
On July 28 2016 03:48 Shield wrote: No, I don't think it's spoofed but it was part of my initial suspicions (I read about spoofed URLs later). When I said I'm skeptical exactly because I know how the internet works that was a general statement. Just because of how the internet can screw you such as man-in-the-middle-attack, IP address spoof, e-mail spoof, etc. While I'm not a network security guy, I'm a software engineer so I'm cautious what I do. Better safe than sorry. No need for some people to be assholes, really (I don't mean you specifically when I reply to your post).
You were the bigger asshole there, especially considering he was right (plus, you were the first to directly insult by saying he's stupid, when in fact, he understands more than you do). Yes, you know something about spoofing/etc., but when people who know more than you say it's not, it's time to shut up and listen/learn, instead of digging yourself deeper into the hole. It will benefit you more in the long run.
That being said, I understand what you were trying to say, and it's a generally valid point, and a good rule of thumb. You just gotta present it better and not react like that, especially when people already addressed that point.
It's not about if he understands more or not. It's about his exaggeration, "stop talking before you really hurt someone". No one is physically hurt. Not even emotionally. I still stand by my question to him earlier.
Please stop...
Q: I haven't read all the pages. Are blizzard planning on doing game changing balance patches? Are they planning/trying on getting b.net for brood war to be more active?
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
Any evidence that they are looking to remove those protocols? Are those logs being transmitted automatically over Bnet?
Back in the day I used null modem cables to play with a friend Ethernet deprecated all those protocols :/
//Log of all the network games played in order to determine what protocols //are no longer being used by the community.
I'm assuming SystemSurvey.exe will send these logs you allow Blizzard to collect them (there's a checkmark box when you patch).
On July 28 2016 05:28 A.Alm wrote: Q: I haven't read all the pages. Are blizzard planning on doing game changing balance patches? Are they planning/trying on getting b.net for brood war to be more active?
They're working on making the game compatible with modern operating systems and fixing bugs.
Q: I haven't read all the pages. Are blizzard planning on doing game changing balance patches? Are they planning/trying on getting b.net for brood war to be more active?
Not sure if they are trying to make BW more active, but they are doing patches for legacy games to help them run better on modern systems. They have already done one for BW a few months ago (forget what it had) and are / have done some for D2.
On July 28 2016 00:35 dcemuser wrote: The disbelievers are cute, but their disbelief is understandable because this is information that isn't really -super- well known. I mean, it's nothing fancy, but it's just that scanning URLs via bruteforce isn't something that occurs to most people.
This is exactly how every fansite has scanned for new patches for years - this is how mmo-champion and wowhead detected new patches when Blizzard was on the old protocol. In fact, this is how Blizzard accidentally leaked the alpha for one of the WoW expansions, many years ago (and gave us a nice C&D for covering it, RIP).
You take a known real patch URL, say, the ftp.blizzard.com download link for 1.16, then you bruteforce various potential new numbers repeatedly (probably, [1-2].[1-2][0-9] with an optional a-z in this case) and spam eternally. Have the program send you an email when it gets something that isn't a 404/500.
Of course, this doesn't work anymore because of NGDP, Blizzard's new download protocol, which ensures that all URLs like this are hashed and basically unguessable. However, old games are not using that system (or even the system that existed before that, lol).
I'm actually mildly surprised that the SC community doesn't have a tool for doing this kind of scanning running on at least one PC.
This is a fantastic post. I did not know any of this.
What is Blizzard hashing now? Is it just taking the ending part of the download link (with the changing version numbers) and hashing that? Because if that's it, then it seems like it would still be easy to perform this type of scanning.
I've been editing the Liquipedia page for LatencyChanger the past few days. The change in 1.17.0 has been documented now. As you can see, the values for LAN games and server games are now the same, which is 2.
On July 26 2016 15:49 bduddy wrote: If you people somehow think http://ftp.blizzard.com is a scam, then please, learn about how the Internet actually works before you spew any more of your "wisdom" here. The patch is 100% legit, although possibly not intended to be released yet. Enjoy your new palettes.
That's exactly why I'm skeptical because I know how the internet works. On the other hand, you don't. Go learn a little bit about spoof URLs, spoof e-mails, etc before you talk about internet security.
Because messing with email headers or adding a bunch of garbage to a URL is the same this as somehow hijacking an entire domain on blizzard.com. Right. Please stop talking before you really hurt someone. Having a single domain deal in multiple protocols is incredibly common and normal.
EDIT: typhoonius is completely correct, except I know that Firefox does support FTP, and Chrome probably does too although I never use it so I'm not sure.
Are you stupid or what? How can you hurt anyone? Please stop exaggerating.
Stop embarassing yourself and learn how domains work.
I know how domains work. Thanks very much. You missed the point.
Could you explain the point then? Right now it seems like you think it might be spoofed because of the ftp part despite it being a blizzard.com domain.
No, I don't think it's spoofed but it was part of my initial suspicions (I read about spoofed URLs later). When I said I'm skeptical exactly because I know how the internet works that was a general statement. Just because of how the internet can screw you such as man-in-the-middle-attack, IP address spoof, e-mail spoof, etc. While I'm not a network security guy, I'm a software engineer so I'm cautious what I do. Better safe than sorry. No need for some people to be assholes, really (I don't mean you specifically when I reply to your post).
You work as a software engineer but had to read up about spoofed URLs? I take it all you do is HCI design or something front-end then and nothing back-end or you would have had the know-how to not embarass yourself.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
I can see why they might remove modem but the other two protocols still could be useful for people running old machines in network on win 95 or 98.What is the justification for removing functional options? To make it somehow 'less confusing' for new players when selecting? I'm against it.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
I can see why they might remove modem but the other two protocols still could be useful for people running old machines in network on win 95 or 98.What is the justification for removing functional options? To make it somehow 'less confusing' for new players when selecting? I'm against it.
The oldest Windows OS that BW supports right now is Windows 2000 anyways, and I'm going to assume that even Windows 2000 support will be dropped because D2 already dropped it this year (someone should check if 1.17.0 even works on Windows 2000). They're looking to remove unused game protocols, so if there is a significant number of games played on a protocol, it seems as though the protocol will stay.
On July 27 2016 17:39 xboi209 wrote: Report: Blizzard is looking to remove unused game protocols such as Local Area Network (IPX), Modem, and Direct Cable Connection. They're logging the total and monthly amount of games we play on each protocol.
Additional research has been published at BNETDocs.org.
I can see why they might remove modem but the other two protocols still could be useful for people running old machines in network on win 95 or 98.What is the justification for removing functional options? To make it somehow 'less confusing' for new players when selecting? I'm against it.
The oldest Windows OS that BW supports right now is Windows 2000 anyways, and I'm going to assume that even Windows 2000 support will be dropped because D2 already dropped it this year
OK thanks for the info i wasn't aware. Certainly anyone still using DCC is running a retro PC network setup for mid-late 90s PC games.It's been well over a decade since i had a parallel port on my PC.
On July 28 2016 19:02 xboi209 wrote: The oldest Windows OS that BW supports right now is Windows 2000 anyways, and I'm going to assume that even Windows 2000 support will be dropped because D2 already dropped it this year (someone should check if 1.17.0 even works on Windows 2000). They're looking to remove unused game protocols, so if there is a significant number of games played on a protocol, it seems as though the protocol will stay.
Just tested it and I can confirm that it won't run on 2000.
Hey i made a blog about this thread and then it was was closed down cause its only memes; check it out if you wanna have a laugh; its in the closed threads section
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
shit, mca64Launcher doesnt works anymore. Anyway thought that Blizzard will make more stuff in this patch. If someone is using win xp or win 7 and plays on iccup then this patch is useless
How did you patch? I couldn't patch.
Maybe it's because your BW IIRC using too many modifications, SC2 unit sounds, etc. Try on clean installation. EDIT: Apparently I checked log when error occured on mine too, it says I need to put BW (I deleted it) where I installed it before f.e. C:\Games. Also you can't install patch on iCCup (mini) version, need original full one.
On July 27 2016 02:34 outscar wrote: Time to test this on another "don't give a shit" Win10 laptop and find out difference. Still if changes are only those and not affecting game when playing on newer OS, I'm disappointed.
If it does work and it's not too much work for you, mind uploading a video on the gameplay if the turn speeds feel different to you?
I'll try.
EDIT: Wow, this fucking patch is real deal. Battle.net rank icons are showing (you can connect to Fish but can't join games), I didn't sense stuttering and lag. THIS IS THE SHIT GUYS! Stop blaming OP.
EDIT2: Actually I couldn't record because laptop which I'm testing Win10 is little netbook which is intended for basic job thus got really bad VGA so graphic card doesn't allow to record - output is really laggy. But the difference is huge from 1.16.1. Everyone with Win10 should try out, only blind won't see comparison.
EDIT3: Also wanna point out that map FS isn't loading for some reason. So patch is still raw.
If it's true this is really awesome. I'm on Win8.1 and I can totally see the difference with WinXP. EffOrt was right to complain.
On July 28 2016 00:35 dcemuser wrote: The disbelievers are cute, but their disbelief is understandable because this is information that isn't really -super- well known. I mean, it's nothing fancy, but it's just that scanning URLs via bruteforce isn't something that occurs to most people.
This is exactly how every fansite has scanned for new patches for years - this is how mmo-champion and wowhead detected new patches when Blizzard was on the old protocol. In fact, this is how Blizzard accidentally leaked the alpha for one of the WoW expansions, many years ago (and gave us a nice C&D for covering it, RIP).
You take a known real patch URL, say, the ftp.blizzard.com download link for 1.16, then you bruteforce various potential new numbers repeatedly (probably, [1-2].[1-2][0-9] with an optional a-z in this case) and spam eternally. Have the program send you an email when it gets something that isn't a 404/500.
Of course, this doesn't work anymore because of NGDP, Blizzard's new download protocol, which ensures that all URLs like this are hashed and basically unguessable. However, old games are not using that system (or even the system that existed before that, lol).
I'm actually mildly surprised that the SC community doesn't have a tool for doing this kind of scanning running on at least one PC.
This is a fantastic post. I did not know any of this.
What is Blizzard hashing now? Is it just taking the ending part of the download link (with the changing version numbers) and hashing that? Because if that's it, then it seems like it would still be easy to perform this type of scanning.
The problem and why we can't bruteforce the MD5s by changing the strings in the text to the new expected values is that all of these configuration files themselves contain MD5s of other vital files. So, say for an instance, a new build is pushed, and that new build contains new archives. Now, in order to guess the MD5 of the CDN configuration, we're back to the same problem of having to guess an unknown MD5 (the one for the new or altered files, in order to add them to the old CDN configuration's text).
This method ensures that the files are basically unguessable before Blizzard posts their hashes publically.
There appears to be some undocumented changes. Protected maps will no longer work, saying it cannot read the scenario file. They've also added the modern Blizzard Error Reporter and a system survey program.
The increased turn rate also seems to have an impact on the economy, but I'm not too sure yet.
On August 07 2016 16:56 Templarfreak wrote: There appears to be some undocumented changes. Protected maps will no longer work, saying it cannot read the scenario file. They've also added the modern Blizzard Error Reporter and a system survey program.
The increased turn rate also seems to have an impact on the economy, but I'm not too sure yet.
On August 07 2016 16:56 Templarfreak wrote: There appears to be some undocumented changes. Protected maps will no longer work, saying it cannot read the scenario file. They've also added the modern Blizzard Error Reporter and a system survey program.
The increased turn rate also seems to have an impact on the economy, but I'm not too sure yet.
On August 07 2016 16:56 Templarfreak wrote: There appears to be some undocumented changes. Protected maps will no longer work, saying it cannot read the scenario file. They've also added the modern Blizzard Error Reporter and a system survey program.
The increased turn rate also seems to have an impact on the economy, but I'm not too sure yet.
Also, it's not specifically unprotected maps that don't work, I've tested a protected map and it works. ICCup's FS is known to not work though.
What is CheckRevision's DLL?
CheckRevision is a module for Battle.net(v1) clients that reports version information so that the server can know whether or not to send a newer patch or to decline the client from connecting, more advanced modules prevent clients that have hacks loaded from connecting as well. Basically though, the server sends BW a MPQ file which contains a DLL file that will be loaded by BW. The MPQ file itself has been traditionally signed, however, the private key used for signing MPQ files has been cracked and thus private servers have the ability to send clients any DLL they want, including viruses. Starting with the 1.17.0 patch, the DLL file itself is required to be signed with a stronger private key or else the client will refuse the load the file.
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