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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On February 18 2007 09:10 Gandalf wrote: Hey 1tym I couldnt figure out what the figures in the first table represent. Could you please tell me? <3 Figures represents win points from various tournaments/leagues.. | ||
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DesOndaes
United States61 Posts
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
The definition "The greatest of all times" does not necessarily connote the competition level, it just means greatest at the time of the player's era. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
Saviour 2005 Uzoo MSL win 2006 CYON MSL second 2006 Pringles MSL win 2006 Pringles MSL season 2 win 2007 Shinhan3 OSL finalist 2007 GOMTV MSL finalist Julyzerg 2004 Gillete OSL win 2005 EVER OSL win 2005 IOPS OSL 2nd 2006 Shinhan OSL 2nd Iloveoov 2003 TG Sambo MSL win 2004 Hanoforce Sengame MSL win 2004 Spris MSL win 2004 EVER OSL win 2006 Shinhan OSL win 2006 WCG2006 win Nada 2001 KPGA TOUR 4th league win 2002 KPGA TOUR 2nd league win 2002 KPGA TOUR 3rd league win 2003 Panasonic OSL win 2003 ghemTV 3rd Starleague win 2003 Stout MSL 2nd 2004 Hanaforce Sengame MSL 2nd 2005 IOPS OSL win 2006 Shinhan OSL season 2 win 2007 OSL finalist Boxer 2001 The 1st World Cyber Games win 2001 Coca Cola OSL win 2001 Hanbit Soft OSL win 2001 SKY1 OSL 2nd 2002 World Cyber Games win 2002 SKY2 OSL 2nd 2003 KTEC KPGA (MSL) 2nd 2004 EVER OSL 2nd 2005 So1 OSL 2nd Xellos 2003 Olympus OSL win 2004 WCG win Yellow 2001 Coca Cola OSL 2nd 2003 Olympus OSL 2nd 2003 KTEC KPGA (MSL) win Grrrr (Guillaum Patry) 99/00 Hanaro Communication Tooniverse win the snickers all star or masters or superfights should not really be included | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
On February 18 2007 09:35 1tym wrote: It's impossible to compare any players on a symmetrical level anyway because later the era, tougher it will become. In last 2 years, number of registered pro-gamers doubled. I don't see it decreasing any moment. If that's the case, then we may just have to refer to the latest tournament winner and call him the greatest of all times. But then the winners will always change so we won't get any 'true' champions in the end. The definition "The greatest of all times" does not necessarily connote the competition level, it just means greatest at the time of the player's era. you are right, but to an extent. but nada has been the greatest in two, possibly three eras, and i think that justifies putting him at a level above oov, savior, boxer, or july. yellow or xellos should not even be mentioned in the same breath as those four. if savior manages to win an osl or two, that would put him in serious contention with NaDa for the best career of all time. | ||
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
On February 18 2007 09:39 exalted wrote: So close between Nada and Savior. Those two are truly champions of all time. As previously mentioned, it is SO much harder to win now than before. I am absolutely shocked by Savior's double final entry, and Savior vs Nada will truly be epic. I'm sure both of them will practice for this more than anything imaginable... I agree that it's harder to win now than it was in previous years, but until savior actually wins an OSL you can't really put him in front of oov (3 MSL + 2 OSL + WCG vs 3 MSL + 0 OSL + 0 WCG). | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
i have a feeling savior is gona get a long list soon and it is only gona get longer =D | ||
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SainT
Chile1067 Posts
 So i'll stay with GARIMTO and SlayerS`_BoxeR` | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On February 18 2007 09:41 NuclearAntelope wrote: I agree that it's harder to win now than it was in previous years, but until savior actually wins an OSL you can't really put him in front of oov (3 MSL + 2 OSL + WCG vs 3 MSL + 0 OSL + 0 WCG). Yeah I agree... I think many people are forgetting about the Oov era.. Oov at the time of domination was a freakin monster.. He had as much force as Saviour now has.. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
right now i'd say it's Nada, then oov, then boxer/july/savior in some order. IF savior wins both finals in the next two weeks, it'll be Nada, then oov/savior. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
Boxer, on the other hand, is just in a class of his own... You can't really compare him to other progamers. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
however, we all know that Boxer's career cannot and should not be measured this way =) | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Savior just might take the title away from NaDa if he can continue to dominate though.  After 20 months of dominance, he can change races to Terran, then after another 20, to Protoss, then he can go random for another 40~  | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
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ApollyoN
United States1297 Posts
Sure Boxer had a ton of nice little tricks and moves that we can remember him by but he never really changed the way the game was played fundamentally. You could maybe argue that he changed the way terran was played at that time with his use of dropships and harass tactics and such, but Nada's influence is felt on every race in every matchup. | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
Why? Because he is like an owner of a time machine. If you look at the beginning of SC Progaming in 2001 you can see him as a finalist, and if you look at the current most important tourney he is also a finalist. Its like "holy shit this guy was among the best playing against the dinossaurs and he is still fighting against global warming!". He had moments of slumping but never ceased to be a fuckign threat to ANY player in ANY era. That's why my vote goes for Nada. Savior is in an awesome momentum, but people forget too early. Maybe noone did ever dominate like he is doing right now, and if he continue like that for some more time maybe the Best Player Ever Title will be his. | ||
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