EPTNow ima be hella embarresed when a bgh player beats me on low money
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Protoss-Fighting
United States814 Posts
Now ima be hella embarresed when a bgh player beats me on low money | ||
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Protoss-Fighting
United States814 Posts
I do believe however koolam (if he played low money) could get a decently high rank if pgt was still up, A- or B+, BUT, CMON guys... testie could get ultimate rank, and he COULD snag some wins vs pros. If this was a match with like koolam vs strafe or daze, i'd say it could go either way, but testie is beyond this. I saw replays of koolam, and let me tell you HIS beginnin goon micro is CRAZY with accurate clicks and full effectiveness of the units. However, I could name 50 players that could execute the same micro as well if not better. BGH has almost the same elements as low money. The difference is MORE CASH, and differnt strategies. All testie would have to do is watch like 20 replays of bgh, learn the strats and the game flow. Then watch a few reps of koolam and see how he plays. Automatically testies macro > koolams macro since testie has good macro on a low money map, and low money macroing can be a lot harder then bgh macro (even though you get more income) Micro wise, bgh is micro intensive in the beginning, low money is micro intensive begin-middle, and Still pretty important towards the end. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
And besides, strafe or daze could win vs testie too, even though on a bo5 or so they're most likely to lose, so I don't really see the point of your post. | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On January 14 2007 02:02 pr0n wrote: Frankly, if they get to pick BGH, they should get no say in the low-money (if it's just one), and I'd avoid LT, Luna, and ROV, as these are all overplayed. If you said how many maps there'd be, I missed it, but maybe BGH (their pick), one we pick, and one we agree upon? Current starleague maps may be good, as they would have seen them but not played too much on them (like we've seen bgh, but don't play it really). I did play BGH for 7 years though, so I'm probably still better at 3v3 BGH than 1v1 low-money. Anyone practicing 3v3 bgh, I would recommend doing so on EAST, because I think that's where most of their players play. I need practice on everything, so let me know if anyone wants to practice. Also, what will be the scale of this tournament? 6 players from each site? 60? I don't remember seeing any approximation. Thanks. If you want to be mean pick Paradoxxx, Requiem or desert fox  | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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psychosis
Sweden107 Posts
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PlayerCraft
Norway7 Posts
 (luv em!). Low games alomst always last a lot longer than BGH games, but dont think that this will make kural tired and be unable to play good! Games lasting for hours is somethin BGH'ers have grown up on as their first game on bgh was by making mass defence^^ and trying to kill your adversary that has 965 canons and carriers^^. As a BGHers myself my instinct is to use my first zealot and kill probes, while teching to goons or protecting my ally with a continously building force if he is teching. Its a complicated strategy of using your units to give you ally time, or kill enemy armies bit by bit while teching to a unit which gives you advantages. Man i cant explain 9 years of bgh gameplay here^^ lol its too much. Just want to say that everything is completely different in how you think. I think 1v1 requires skills, like creativity, patience, staying cool, micro and macro. While BGH micro, teamplay, macro, agressivity and creativity stands high. BGH players are very agressive. Fast action is what defines the top bgh teamplay level. If you arnt fast enough with nice micro and thought, you lose fast. BGH teamplay games seldom last more than 8-14min. One small mistake of losing units and this team loses. And if you bunker vs a BGH player^^ well hehe, DONT. He will stand outside you and canon his own bases and everywhere else and make bases on the remaining mineralspots and do all kind of tech. drops and brutal attacks. One of the most normal drops on bgh is the templar drop barbequing all your probes. Oo Personally i think bgh games will be close between these two, in lowmaps on the other hand i think testie's experience with low and 1v1 will slaughter kural. | ||
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Guam3521 Posts
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Guam3521 Posts
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psychosis
Sweden107 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 14 2007 09:52 psychosis wrote: Also there are some people on their player list, for low money only, that I highly doubt are BGHers.com regulars at all. Seem like this thing is ruined before it even got off the ground. =S ? I thought players were supposed to play both --a | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On January 14 2007 03:46 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote: I don't want to sound bitchy, bud did you read the thread? First of all, Testie has played a lot of BGH (tho i believe most of it was 2v2/3v3 rather than 1v1). He played teamed up with koolam and he SAID IT HIMSELF that there is a chance he could lose to him on bgh. Why go on about this? If the man said it himself. I mean yes, he's probably a better player, but he's not totally in his element. So things might happen. Please watch some more replays of koolam and you'll see he also macros effectively too. Like expand, build a ton of gateways, etc. And besides, strafe or daze could win vs testie too, even though on a bo5 or so they're most likely to lose, so I don't really see the point of your post. i watched some reps of koolam yesterday and i have to agree with the other guy when he said many people have the same micro and macro skills as he does. he makes very good decisions though. so basically he is similar to testie, not focused on gosu micro/macro, but relies on a good understanding of the game | ||
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BaboToss
United States108 Posts
On January 14 2007 09:52 psychosis wrote: Also there are some people on their player list, for low money only, that I highly doubt are BGHers.com regulars at all. Seem like this thing is ruined before it even got off the ground. This list what you see, is only the registration list. All kind of people can register, but that doesn't mean that they will play. I myself saw that some ppl registred that are not BGH gamers, these players won't play for sure. | ||
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fig_newbie
749 Posts
You don't think Testies BEEN playing BGH? He's likely played it 100x more than most people in this form and the ONLY reason he wasn't destroyed like Fayth was because he respected his opponents and he HAS had practice on money maps. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 14 2007 08:22 PlayerCraft wrote: Both players are good, but kural's speciality is teamplay while testie is a 1v1 player. Teamplay and 1v1 are 2 different games, for example in teamplay you use your units to hold, deceive, attack, harass and scare an adverary from your first zealot. Having your army very close to your enemy. While 1v1 you are more setback, either teching army to secure expand etc. or doing nice crazy moves like we see on pro reps (luv em!). Low games alomst always last a lot longer than BGH games, but dont think that this will make kural tired and be unable to play good! Games lasting for hours is somethin BGH'ers have grown up on as their first game on bgh was by making mass defence^^ and trying to kill your adversary that has 965 canons and carriers^^. As a BGHers myself my instinct is to use my first zealot and kill probes, while teching to goons or protecting my ally with a continously building force if he is teching. Its a complicated strategy of using your units to give you ally time, or kill enemy armies bit by bit while teching to a unit which gives you advantages. Man i cant explain 9 years of bgh gameplay here^^ lol its too much. Just want to say that everything is completely different in how you think. I think 1v1 requires skills, like creativity, patience, staying cool, micro and macro. While BGH micro, teamplay, macro, agressivity and creativity stands high. BGH players are very agressive. Fast action is what defines the top bgh teamplay level. If you arnt fast enough with nice micro and thought, you lose fast. BGH teamplay games seldom last more than 8-14min. One small mistake of losing units and this team loses. And if you bunker vs a BGH player^^ well hehe, DONT. He will stand outside you and canon his own bases and everywhere else and make bases on the remaining mineralspots and do all kind of tech. drops and brutal attacks. One of the most normal drops on bgh is the templar drop barbequing all your probes. Oo Personally i think bgh games will be close between these two, in lowmaps on the other hand i think testie's experience with low and 1v1 will slaughter kural. An accurate analysis in my opinion, esp the concluding line. | ||
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mnm
United States4493 Posts
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 14 2007 11:39 BaboToss wrote: This list what you see, is only the registration list. All kind of people can register, but that doesn't mean that they will play. I myself saw that some ppl registred that are not BGH gamers, these players won't play for sure. Two of the people who registered are TL.net posters, XDawn and CaucasionAsian! | ||
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Surado-
Korea (South)64 Posts
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
personally i registered for the bghers team because, -manifesto didn't sign me up for the tl.net team -i play bgh a lot on east with friends, so i am somewhat part of the community -it is fun playing with people who have a decent skill level and who know how to work well in a team (e.g. good unit positioning) | ||
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
On January 14 2007 13:12 CoralReefer wrote: probably because they think that is the official place to sign up -- for both TL.neters and bghers personally i registered for the bghers team because, -manifesto didn't sign me up for the tl.net team -i play bgh a lot on east with friends, so i am somewhat part of the community -it is fun playing with people who have a decent skill level and who know how to work well in a team (e.g. good unit positioning) They want people who are part of the BGHERS.COM community, not the BGH community. Otherwise, we can just grab anyone that's great at low-money, register them to TL.net, and stomp the BGHers. If you haven't been a member for a while on their site, and if you don't regularly post, you shouldn't be allowed to play. The same goes for us. | ||
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