It looks like he walks the dt until it's just out of reach of the mine, then walks it in and pushes hold position at the perfect time to stop the dt exactly (with the delay in mind) beside the mine giving it just enough time to slash it.

Looks cool. I'm going to try this out myself.

KrAzYfoOL

Australia3037 Posts

November 07 2006 15:23 GMT

#23

ok it works in explorer.

KrAzYfoOL

Australia3037 Posts

November 07 2006 15:24 GMT

#24

ah cool watched it, AND NO HURT NOT 1 HURT.

Blind

United States2528 Posts

November 07 2006 15:51 GMT

#25

Seems he just placed the dt close enough so that it was in aggressive range. Not to be confused with attack range, we all know dts are melee units with no range. I don't know what it's actually called, but I'm calling it aggressive range here. It's when an enemy unit gets too close so your unit follows it and tries to kill it (unless your unit is in hold position). What My_Digital_Toss did was get the dt close enough with the mine so the dt would attack the mine on its own. Notice how after the dt gets close to the mine, no extra actions are ordered. The reason he kept pressing stop prior to the dt moving in to kill the mine was because he didn't want the dt to get too close, causing the mine to set off. I'm guessing the range of a mine setting off and the aggressive range of dts are pretty similar, so some precision is needed.

Asta

Germany3491 Posts

November 07 2006 15:53 GMT

#26

On November 07 2006 23:51 ManaBlue wrote:
It looks like he walks the dt until it's just out of reach of the mine, then walks it in and pushes hold position at the perfect time to stop the dt exactly (with the delay in mind) beside the mine giving it just enough time to slash it.

Looks cool. I'm going to try this out myself.

How do you get the idea of 'hold position' being involved?
He just moves towards the mine step by step until it attacks.
Should be useful sometimes, but normally you either don't have observers yet (dt rush) or you actually _want_ the mine to go off (later in the game).

azndsh

United States4447 Posts

November 07 2006 15:53 GMT

#27

Look closely, he never clicks on the mine. Notice how the "stop" button is pressed. He walks just in range of the dt's auto attack and hits "stop" so then the dt automatically goes after the mine without triggering it first. This obviously wouldn't work with multiple mines that are close enough to each other though, which is often the case.

Am I right?

Sadir

Vatican City State1176 Posts

November 07 2006 16:29 GMT

#28

funny vid...but pretty useless in real games....
the zeal bomb is damn impressive

skyglow1

New Zealand3962 Posts

November 07 2006 16:43 GMT

#29

Ah yeah that should have been obvious how he was doing it.

WhatisProtoss

Korea (South)2325 Posts

November 07 2006 18:05 GMT

#30

Guys. Please look at the video closely. See that patrol is being hit. -_-;;

pyrogenetix

United Arab Emirates5091 Posts

November 07 2006 18:18 GMT

#31

cant see vid... anyone help?

Vin{MBL}

5185 Posts

November 07 2006 18:22 GMT

#32

zealot bombs like that make me wanna cry

and i think MDT deserves a special icon

GiveUp

Netherlands91 Posts

November 07 2006 18:33 GMT

#33

nice one
the DT attacks the mine before it explodes...
hard...

DaZe

Sweden2111 Posts

November 07 2006 18:55 GMT

#34

its the basic hold move scenario ;o

SoDrunk

United Kingdom291 Posts

November 07 2006 19:44 GMT

#35

Patrol is not being hit

PhilGood2DaY

Germany7424 Posts

November 07 2006 19:45 GMT

#36

The angle matters, too, doesnt it ?

PePe QuiCoSE

Argentina1204 Posts

November 07 2006 19:46 GMT

#37

On November 08 2006 03:05 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Guys. Please look at the video closely. See that patrol is being hit. -_-;;

Nope, patrol it is never hit. What the video shows is what was said above, he puts the templar close enough that it automatically switch from the 'stop' position to 'attack' without direct command from the player.

Legionnaire

Australia4514 Posts

November 07 2006 19:56 GMT

#38

T_T afaik i invented the dt vs mines 3 years ago when i was in POS. I actually had a UMS to practice it on, bejjang kept telling me i was wasting my time, but i thought it was fun

Always wanted to win a game by using dts/obs vs mines in a tv match but i never had the opportunity.

You will notice that attacking from a diagonal position, mines pop up a lot earlier, but not from directly on the side, or if the dts a fraction above it. There is also a way to do it with attacking the mines.

Pretty useless if there are multiple mines around :S

Dendra

Croatia801 Posts

November 07 2006 20:00 GMT

#39

hmm my favourite is dt surviving 3mines hit,i did it 100+ times,but this dt killings mines...i did it once on bladestorm,i just sent my dt to his exp and on his way there he had to pass mine field,strangely when a mine ran onto him he simply killed it. we didn't share vision,i didn't have obs to c the minefield,or w.e so guess my dt used hax! perhaps i did it more times but didn't notice. i'm not sure how does dt manage to kill the mine before it hits him,could be the angle or w.e