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3oD[DaMeiN]
Profile Joined September 2009
24 Posts
April 05 2014 01:31 GMT
#1
I just installed Windows 8.1 and tried playing Broodwar but I'm having some video issues. Every button has a black box as the background in the middle, instead of being one solid color. And when I click on say "Join" I can only see the game list partially, the other half is obscured. Scoured the forums and Google and couldn't find anyone else having this issue.

Any advice?
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cpc
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia126 Posts
April 05 2014 01:33 GMT
#2
From my experience in game it works just fine but the bnet interface is bad unless in window mode and then it will look fine
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
April 05 2014 03:09 GMT
#3
Window mode is the only practical solution
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
April 05 2014 05:18 GMT
#4
Same here, I'm looking for a solution because windows mode isn't fun
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 05 2014 18:22 GMT
#5
If you reduce your desktop resolution to 800x600 or 640x480 windows mode = fullscreen basically
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
April 08 2014 01:46 GMT
#6
I can't do it, the mininum for me is 1024 x 768
I have another problem. When I alt tab and when i restore I get a blank black screen with everything else responding..

......And my iccup results don't register but that's for another thread
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 08 2014 02:04 GMT
#7
I don't have any issue running BW with Win 8.1. I checked the boxes to run it in 640*480 and disable DPI scaling.
However, the mouse behavior is significantly different in Win 8.1 so I kept my old WinXP computer only for BW.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
May 10 2014 07:49 GMT
#8
On April 08 2014 10:46 JieXian wrote:
I can't do it, the mininum for me is 1024 x 768
I have another problem. When I alt tab and when i restore I get a blank black screen with everything else responding..

......And my iccup results don't register but that's for another thread


I've fixed the alt tab problem by setting compatibility settings to Vista sp2! (was win98 previously)
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
May 10 2014 22:12 GMT
#9
If you have nvidia card, you might try going to nvidia control panel. Under Display > Adjust desktop size and position, you can change the scaling to "no scaling" - this will allow you to play in fullscreen with a game size of the original 1x windowed size. I have a 1920x1080 monitor and I play this way. It's basically just an easy way to cover the entire screen in black, then overlay the game screen from windowed in the center of the black screen.
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1082 Posts
May 10 2014 22:21 GMT
#10
Install virtualbox and make a linux virtualization with wine and broodwar.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 10 2014 22:54 GMT
#11
On May 11 2014 07:21 parkin wrote:
Install virtualbox and make a linux virtualization with wine and broodwar.


lol

that's a terrible idea
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11380 Posts
May 11 2014 04:59 GMT
#12
Anyone had a completely black screen with windows 8? We got it working randomly, but I have no idea what temporarily fixed it. All I know is most of the time it doesn't work at all. This isn't the colour artifact problem where you either end exlorer.exe or have a black destop and pull up screen resolution. The entire screen was black despite running all the win xp compatability, etc.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 05:37:15
May 11 2014 05:23 GMT
#13
On May 11 2014 13:59 Falling wrote:
Anyone had a completely black screen with windows 8? We got it working randomly, but I have no idea what temporarily fixed it. All I know is most of the time it doesn't work at all. This isn't the colour artifact problem where you either end exlorer.exe or have a black destop and pull up screen resolution. The entire screen was black despite running all the win xp compatability, etc.


Try vista sp2 compatibility, disable display scaling, run in 640x480 resolution. That worked for me. I have had the same problems with other compatibility settings too. It still has some minor problems and I'll try it out with sp1 or something later, but the major problem of having a blank screen is solved.

On May 11 2014 07:12 hp.Shell wrote:
If you have nvidia card, you might try going to nvidia control panel. Under Display > Adjust desktop size and position, you can change the scaling to "no scaling" - this will allow you to play in fullscreen with a game size of the original 1x windowed size. I have a 1920x1080 monitor and I play this way. It's basically just an easy way to cover the entire screen in black, then overlay the game screen from windowed in the center of the black screen.


I don't have that option and I can't disable it with dell graphics setup : /
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InSaYnE
Profile Joined June 2014
3 Posts
June 15 2014 05:46 GMT
#14
Hey guys ive been wanting to get back into some rts action so i busted out my starcraft and broodwar so i can beat them down before upgrading to starcraft 2. i have windows 8.1 and the game launches and runs. the color is fine and i can get into campaign and everything but everything is choppy. mouse input in menus is all over the place. if a building is building anything in game the game is choppy. scrolling the map feels choppy too. its basically unplayable like this. Ive been googling for hours and cant seem to get it fixed. Ive seen a few threads on your board and figured maybe you guys know something i dont.
InSaYnE
Profile Joined June 2014
3 Posts
June 15 2014 06:17 GMT
#15
So i stumbled upon a fix for my choppy game play. i just turned off the facial animations when there's an in game message and low and behold it works great.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
June 15 2014 08:21 GMT
#16
On June 15 2014 14:46 InSaYnE wrote:
Hey guys ive been wanting to get back into some rts action so i busted out my starcraft and broodwar so i can beat them down before upgrading to starcraft 2.


thats downgrading bro!
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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 09:10:46
June 15 2014 09:06 GMT
#17
On June 15 2014 14:46 InSaYnE wrote:
Hey guys ive been wanting to get back into some rts action so i busted out my starcraft and broodwar so i can beat them down before upgrading to starcraft 2. i have windows 8.1 and the game launches and runs. the color is fine and i can get into campaign and everything but everything is choppy. mouse input in menus is all over the place. if a building is building anything in game the game is choppy. scrolling the map feels choppy too. its basically unplayable like this. Ive been googling for hours and cant seem to get it fixed. Ive seen a few threads on your board and figured maybe you guys know something i dont.

"this is Windows 8 fix to resolve graphic lag
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Lobby will be messed, but no more lag. This uses Koget for streaming. Explorer.exe will be killed + others things. On close launcher or check DWM again will be all restored"
-mca64
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
InSaYnE
Profile Joined June 2014
3 Posts
June 15 2014 14:16 GMT
#18
launcher works perfectly i doubt ill be playing online though. i haven't played starcraft since i was about12. which means my ass would be spoon fed to me on a silver platter.
Malkiyah
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation92 Posts
January 25 2015 21:13 GMT
#19
I've installed Windows 10 Technical Preview, same shit in lobby
Seems no way to fix that
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
January 25 2015 21:24 GMT
#20
On January 26 2015 06:13 Malkiyah wrote:
I've installed Windows 10 Technical Preview, same shit in lobby
Seems no way to fix that

We're lucky that it didn't get worse at least
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
January 25 2015 22:01 GMT
#21
I have a solution that works perfectly for me, even without launchers. Brood War works better than it ever did before.
  • Buy a copy of Windows XP
  • Install VirtualBox
  • Create a Windows XP virtual machine.
  • Run the Windows XP VM in full-screen mode with keyboard/mouse captured.
  • Install Brood War.

You can even get IPX for LAN!
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
January 25 2015 22:35 GMT
#22
is there a way to customize the wmode screen resolution? normal size is too small for me, but 2x extends beyond my screen
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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
January 27 2015 03:04 GMT
#23
On January 26 2015 07:01 lemmata wrote:
I have a solution that works perfectly for me, even without launchers. Brood War works better than it ever did before.
  • Buy a copy of Windows XP
  • Install VirtualBox
  • Create a Windows XP virtual machine.
  • Run the Windows XP VM in full-screen mode with keyboard/mouse captured.
  • Install Brood War.

You can even get IPX for LAN!

So you need to buy a copy of an outdated OS to just play this one game. Not only that, your computer needs to be able to handle running that second OS and playing SC smoothly. While this could work for some people, it's not ideal.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
January 27 2015 07:06 GMT
#24
is anyone else's text fucked up? like if i go to the game menu and i click on different games, the text will overlap. same with trying to view someone's profile in the lobby. if i view, it overlaps the chat boxes and i can no longer see the chat and stuff.
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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
January 27 2015 16:43 GMT
#25
On January 27 2015 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
is anyone else's text fucked up? like if i go to the game menu and i click on different games, the text will overlap. same with trying to view someone's profile in the lobby. if i view, it overlaps the chat boxes and i can no longer see the chat and stuff.

This is normal for Windows 8, start using WMode
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 27 2015 16:51 GMT
#26
On January 26 2015 07:01 lemmata wrote:
I have a solution that works perfectly for me, even without launchers. Brood War works better than it ever did before.
  • Buy a copy of Windows XP
  • Install VirtualBox
  • Create a Windows XP virtual machine.
  • Run the Windows XP VM in full-screen mode with keyboard/mouse captured.
  • Install Brood War.

You can even get IPX for LAN!

Is Window XP even safe to run? I keep Window XP drive but refuse to enable any network functionality at all due to the discontinued support.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 27 2015 17:32 GMT
#27
On January 27 2015 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
is anyone else's text fucked up? like if i go to the game menu and i click on different games, the text will overlap. same with trying to view someone's profile in the lobby. if i view, it overlaps the chat boxes and i can no longer see the chat and stuff.


You'll get used to it. I prefer that than the quirks we had with Win7.
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Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
January 27 2015 18:08 GMT
#28
On January 28 2015 01:51 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 07:01 lemmata wrote:
I have a solution that works perfectly for me, even without launchers. Brood War works better than it ever did before.
  • Buy a copy of Windows XP
  • Install VirtualBox
  • Create a Windows XP virtual machine.
  • Run the Windows XP VM in full-screen mode with keyboard/mouse captured.
  • Install Brood War.

You can even get IPX for LAN!

Is Window XP even safe to run? I keep Window XP drive but refuse to enable any network functionality at all due to the discontinued support.

No, it is now reserved for adventurers, swashbucklers and daredevils. It is also highly flammable and may cause effects such as delayed metabolic acidosis, blindness, and death.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
January 27 2015 18:50 GMT
#29
On January 28 2015 01:43 xboi209 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
is anyone else's text fucked up? like if i go to the game menu and i click on different games, the text will overlap. same with trying to view someone's profile in the lobby. if i view, it overlaps the chat boxes and i can no longer see the chat and stuff.

This is normal for Windows 8, start using WMode

cant. windows mode is way too small for me :/
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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
January 27 2015 19:07 GMT
#30
On January 28 2015 01:51 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 07:01 lemmata wrote:
I have a solution that works perfectly for me, even without launchers. Brood War works better than it ever did before.
  • Buy a copy of Windows XP
  • Install VirtualBox
  • Create a Windows XP virtual machine.
  • Run the Windows XP VM in full-screen mode with keyboard/mouse captured.
  • Install Brood War.

You can even get IPX for LAN!

Is Window XP even safe to run? I keep Window XP drive but refuse to enable any network functionality at all due to the discontinued support.

No it isn't but since you'd be running it in a VM, you have nothing to worry about unless personal/sensitive data is in your VM.

On January 28 2015 03:50 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 01:43 xboi209 wrote:
On January 27 2015 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
is anyone else's text fucked up? like if i go to the game menu and i click on different games, the text will overlap. same with trying to view someone's profile in the lobby. if i view, it overlaps the chat boxes and i can no longer see the chat and stuff.

This is normal for Windows 8, start using WMode

cant. windows mode is way too small for me :/

You can double the resolution
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
ScOULaris
Profile Joined June 2015
26 Posts
June 10 2015 13:27 GMT
#31
Alright, I'm trying my damnedest to get Brood War functioning adequately on my Windows 8.1 machine. It seems like every solution to one problem requires conceding another. At first the game felt choppy, but running it with the ddemulate flag fixed that. Then I wanted to have working Bnet menus, so I used window mode in Chaoslauncher... but ddemulate doesn't work within the launcher.

Okay... so I can except garbled Bnet menus as long as I can play the actual game, but there's one last problem that I feel like I haven't seen mentioned around here. There is a considerable delay when telling a unit to perform an action. I loaded up the game on an old Windows 7 laptop just to make sure I wasn't imagining things. It's not mouse lag. The game responds to my mouse immediately when it comes to animating the reticle whenever I click somewhere on the terrain, but units have what feels like a full second delay before they react to the command.

Has anyone else encountered this?
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 14:25:31
June 10 2015 14:24 GMT
#32
On June 10 2015 22:27 ScOULaris wrote:
Alright, I'm trying my damnedest to get Brood War functioning adequately on my Windows 8.1 machine. It seems like every solution to one problem requires conceding another. At first the game felt choppy, but running it with the ddemulate flag fixed that. Then I wanted to have working Bnet menus, so I used window mode in Chaoslauncher... but ddemulate doesn't work within the launcher.

Okay... so I can except garbled Bnet menus as long as I can play the actual game, but there's one last problem that I feel like I haven't seen mentioned around here. There is a considerable delay when telling a unit to perform an action. I loaded up the game on an old Windows 7 laptop just to make sure I wasn't imagining things. It's not mouse lag. The game responds to my mouse immediately when it comes to animating the reticle whenever I click somewhere on the terrain, but units have what feels like a full second delay before they react to the command.

Has anyone else encountered this?


How are you launching the game? Are you playing online or single player? Are you playing online versus the computer? Do you have LAN latency enabled?

I tried playing online versus the computer once and it gave me a delay of around 1 second. When you play versus human opponents on the other hand and have LAN latency enabled, it feels amazing.
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ScOULaris
Profile Joined June 2015
26 Posts
June 10 2015 15:51 GMT
#33
I am just launching the game normally as administrator with a shortcut using the ddemulate flag at the moment. Full screen, no window mode.

I was playing by myself on Bnet when testing this out this morning, and it did basically feel like latency. Actual game performance was fine, but the delay between my actions and my units' movements felt like latency.

Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 10 2015 16:04 GMT
#34
Battle net always has a lot of delay. Try single player, and when you play for real, play with one of the latency reducing plug ins (for example the anti hack launcher on ICCup)
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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 10 2015 18:26 GMT
#35
On June 11 2015 00:51 ScOULaris wrote:
Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.

You don't need to forward your ports for this, it's normal for that slight latency delay. You need to use the LatencyChanger if you want to decrease the built-in latency, yes it is technically a hack however all players in the game must use it or else disconnects will occur, so no one will have an advantage.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
June 10 2015 21:42 GMT
#36
On June 11 2015 00:51 ScOULaris wrote:
I am just launching the game normally as administrator with a shortcut using the ddemulate flag at the moment. Full screen, no window mode.

I was playing by myself on Bnet when testing this out this morning, and it did basically feel like latency. Actual game performance was fine, but the delay between my actions and my units' movements felt like latency.

Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.


Just to make sure... you are playing through the iccup gateway?
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ScOULaris
Profile Joined June 2015
26 Posts
June 10 2015 22:14 GMT
#37
On June 11 2015 06:42 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 00:51 ScOULaris wrote:
I am just launching the game normally as administrator with a shortcut using the ddemulate flag at the moment. Full screen, no window mode.

I was playing by myself on Bnet when testing this out this morning, and it did basically feel like latency. Actual game performance was fine, but the delay between my actions and my units' movements felt like latency.

Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.


Just to make sure... you are playing through the iccup gateway?

No. Just USEast because that's where the last vestiges of the UMS community seem to remain. Does anyone play UMS on the ICCup servers?
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#38
On June 11 2015 07:14 ScOULaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 06:42 B-royal wrote:
On June 11 2015 00:51 ScOULaris wrote:
I am just launching the game normally as administrator with a shortcut using the ddemulate flag at the moment. Full screen, no window mode.

I was playing by myself on Bnet when testing this out this morning, and it did basically feel like latency. Actual game performance was fine, but the delay between my actions and my units' movements felt like latency.

Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.


Just to make sure... you are playing through the iccup gateway?

No. Just USEast because that's where the last vestiges of the UMS community seem to remain. Does anyone play UMS on the ICCup servers?

Barely, I would recommend US East for UMS. And if you're going to be on US East, I would also recommend using wDetector as an antihack.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
ScOULaris
Profile Joined June 2015
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 22:57:24
June 10 2015 22:30 GMT
#39
On June 11 2015 07:17 xboi209 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 07:14 ScOULaris wrote:
On June 11 2015 06:42 B-royal wrote:
On June 11 2015 00:51 ScOULaris wrote:
I am just launching the game normally as administrator with a shortcut using the ddemulate flag at the moment. Full screen, no window mode.

I was playing by myself on Bnet when testing this out this morning, and it did basically feel like latency. Actual game performance was fine, but the delay between my actions and my units' movements felt like latency.

Maybe I need to forward some ports? I remember having to do that on my old Windows 7 laptop, but I haven't done it on my windows 8.1 machine yet. I don't want to use the LAN Latency trick since it's technically a hack.


Just to make sure... you are playing through the iccup gateway?

No. Just USEast because that's where the last vestiges of the UMS community seem to remain. Does anyone play UMS on the ICCup servers?

Barely, I would recommend US East for UMS. And if you're going to be on US East, I would also recommend using wDetector as an antihack.

Okay. Is it possible to connect to US East through a launcher like mca64? Looks like I can only connect to either ICC or Fish through it.

Edit: Nevermind, I figured out how.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
June 11 2015 04:10 GMT
#40
Soon we will have the Win10 + BW thread
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