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I think we should just recruit whoever Dknight is to help out with his massive experience in running tourneys, so next time we actually have the manpower to get things done, flawlessly and in time. That way we all profit.
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So we know the map order and maps, when will the playoffs commence?
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Not really my responsibility. So I don't know for sure, but probably starting next week.
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On January 27 2014 03:31 Freakling wrote:
I think we should just recruit whoever Dknight is to help out with his massive experience in running tourneys, so next time we actually have the manpower to get things done, flawlessly and in time. That way we all profit.
You probably dont even know how close to the truth you are...
Anyway some great games untill now, I hope the playoffs only get better! Even though the communication is a bit lacking for the moment, it is still the best tournament around for the moment so good luck finishing in style!
On January 27 2014 03:25 GeckoXp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 02:14 Dknight wrote:
How does that not follow logic? Participating players in SPL play the game professionally; hence, they will have enough time to familiarize themselves with a map, which usually goes through a testing process. In the SBWI, players are all amateurs. They don't have the prep time, pure and simple. You're applying the same standard to two qualitatively different types of leagues. It's disappointing that SBWI would make such a decision. The fact that they released and then changed their own decision should be enough evidence that it was poorly thought out. I really can't fathom the logic to introduce a new map like this for the playoffs nor would I have ever considered doing the same back in the day. That you'd dislike or not respect me for expressing my opinion, such is life. Show nested quote +
I didn't say I could not follow your point. However, you walz in like a braindead squirrel and make demands, most likely not even contributing to anything related to BW, other than watching it (which is no contribution at all). I certainly don't give a shit about your opinion as silent consumer if it comes along with nothing than turd package. You act up as this would destroy eSports, when it isn't. This really is a blow in the face of the few who try their best to deliver some form of BW you can actually take part in. For every single thank you and constructive form of feedback, there's at least three morons like you. The way people like you express their thanks is a statement about how bad a thing is (with no further explanation) followed up by a comparison to a fully developed monetary supported organization run by dozens of professionals. No wonder less and less people help out. Around this page it gets more difficult with every month to motivate anyone to do basic tasks on a regular basis. "Such is life". Stick that up your arse.
Uncalled for man. He expressed a different opinion, no need to get offensive.
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On January 27 2014 06:05 Mango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 03:31 Freakling wrote:
I think we should just recruit whoever Dknight is to help out with his massive experience in running tourneys, so next time we actually have the manpower to get things done, flawlessly and in time. That way we all profit. You probably dont even know how close to the truth you are... Anyway some great games untill now, I hope the playoffs only get better! Even though the communication is a bit lacking for the moment, it is still the best tournament around for the moment so good luck finishing in style! Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 03:25 GeckoXp wrote:On January 27 2014 02:14 Dknight wrote:
How does that not follow logic? Participating players in SPL play the game professionally; hence, they will have enough time to familiarize themselves with a map, which usually goes through a testing process. In the SBWI, players are all amateurs. They don't have the prep time, pure and simple. You're applying the same standard to two qualitatively different types of leagues. It's disappointing that SBWI would make such a decision. The fact that they released and then changed their own decision should be enough evidence that it was poorly thought out. I really can't fathom the logic to introduce a new map like this for the playoffs nor would I have ever considered doing the same back in the day. That you'd dislike or not respect me for expressing my opinion, such is life.
I didn't say I could not follow your point. However, you walz in like a braindead squirrel and make demands, most likely not even contributing to anything related to BW, other than watching it (which is no contribution at all). I certainly don't give a shit about your opinion as silent consumer if it comes along with nothing than turd package. You act up as this would destroy eSports, when it isn't. This really is a blow in the face of the few who try their best to deliver some form of BW you can actually take part in. For every single thank you and constructive form of feedback, there's at least three morons like you. The way people like you express their thanks is a statement about how bad a thing is (with no further explanation) followed up by a comparison to a fully developed monetary supported organization run by dozens of professionals. No wonder less and less people help out. Around this page it gets more difficult with every month to motivate anyone to do basic tasks on a regular basis. "Such is life". Stick that up your arse.
Uncalled for man. He expressed a different opinion, no need to get offensive.
Nah, it wasn't just him "expressing an opinion", Dknight decided to reply in a manner that was basically "I don't care what you just said, I'm still gonna be mad at SBWI, and if you can't understand that, then you're dumb."
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On January 27 2014 03:31 Freakling wrote:
I think we should just recruit whoever Dknight is to help out with his massive experience in running tourneys, so next time we actually have the manpower to get things done, flawlessly and in time. That way we all profit.
On January 27 2014 06:28 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 06:05 Mango wrote:On January 27 2014 03:31 Freakling wrote:
I think we should just recruit whoever Dknight is to help out with his massive experience in running tourneys, so next time we actually have the manpower to get things done, flawlessly and in time. That way we all profit. You probably dont even know how close to the truth you are... Anyway some great games untill now, I hope the playoffs only get better! Even though the communication is a bit lacking for the moment, it is still the best tournament around for the moment so good luck finishing in style! On January 27 2014 03:25 GeckoXp wrote:On January 27 2014 02:14 Dknight wrote:
How does that not follow logic? Participating players in SPL play the game professionally; hence, they will have enough time to familiarize themselves with a map, which usually goes through a testing process. In the SBWI, players are all amateurs. They don't have the prep time, pure and simple. You're applying the same standard to two qualitatively different types of leagues. It's disappointing that SBWI would make such a decision. The fact that they released and then changed their own decision should be enough evidence that it was poorly thought out. I really can't fathom the logic to introduce a new map like this for the playoffs nor would I have ever considered doing the same back in the day. That you'd dislike or not respect me for expressing my opinion, such is life.
I didn't say I could not follow your point. However, you walz in like a braindead squirrel and make demands, most likely not even contributing to anything related to BW, other than watching it (which is no contribution at all). I certainly don't give a shit about your opinion as silent consumer if it comes along with nothing than turd package. You act up as this would destroy eSports, when it isn't. This really is a blow in the face of the few who try their best to deliver some form of BW you can actually take part in. For every single thank you and constructive form of feedback, there's at least three morons like you. The way people like you express their thanks is a statement about how bad a thing is (with no further explanation) followed up by a comparison to a fully developed monetary supported organization run by dozens of professionals. No wonder less and less people help out. Around this page it gets more difficult with every month to motivate anyone to do basic tasks on a regular basis. "Such is life". Stick that up your arse.
Uncalled for man. He expressed a different opinion, no need to get offensive. Nah, it wasn't just him "expressing an opinion", Dknight decided to reply in a manner that was basically "I don't care what you just said, I'm still gonna be mad at SBWI, and if you can't understand that, then you're dumb."
As someone who has been on both sides, I have no clue why organizers get so defensive when people critique them. Just because you put out a product doesn't mean you're safe from criticism.
You hit the nail on the head. I've contributed a ton to Brood War back in the day. I'll take my 12+ seasons of running WGT-Clan League, our other special money leagues (eg., Titan Tour), the largest nation war cups in Brood War (World Cup, each with 40+ nations), experience with TLTour 2, getting sponsors involved in foreign tournaments, and a bunch of other events before 'eSports' in the foreign community ever took off.
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I think if we stopped petty arguing and meaningless dick-measuring contests altogether, and actually spent that time discussing how we can improve the current state of the foreign BW scene, we'd be better off. But that's just me.
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The playoffs starts on feb 1, 19:00 CET, 13:00 EST (same time as in the group stage).
It will be:
sas. vs LRM)
and
LaGFree vs iFU.
The casting will be on feb 2, 20:00 CET, 14:00 EST (same time as always)
Good luck
 SBWI Teamleague
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Croatia9493 Posts
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to the sas. vs LRM) rematch.
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Too much cancerous whining in this thread, people with failed educations and miserable lives etc. How about perma-banning everyone single person who posted in this thread so we can restore BW to it's old glory? Yes, I'm kind of serious.
+ Show Spoiler +Because it's fucking obvious that quite a few people who "discuss" in this thread do it without any love for BW at all. or eachother. I stopped "discussing" BW on TL all together now. I know more "normal" people has chosen the same way.
To all of you who feel hit: Get lost
User was warned for this post
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wow kinda short notice imo but ok lol
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On January 29 2014 23:18 skzlime wrote:
wow kinda short notice imo but ok lol
I agree, I don't have enough time to come out of retirement.
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im just happy theres a playoffs date now ^_^
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Will there be a new season with this ?
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On January 29 2014 23:18 skzlime wrote:
wow kinda short notice imo but ok lol
Short of the first week of the league... I think we can agree that a lot of things bring a mutual sentiment about this organization. I think the playoffs should be postponed a week for obvious reasons.
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On January 29 2014 22:32 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to the sas. vs LRM) rematch.
Should be a good one! I'm hype for this.
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sry to ask but is there a reason why the ace map was changed from desti to fs? i dont think u randomized them so there has to be a reason.
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i wish the ace map had been fs during regular season, fuck destination lol
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I did not exactly randomize them but shuffled them around to give the maps that weren't used much so far more games while maintaining a good distribution (not having all the two player maps togeter etc.). Out of the given map pool FS was the obvious choice as new ace map, even though it was already in the 6th slot before and therefore hasn't had many games.
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On February 01 2014 12:13 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
i wish the ace map had been fs during regular season, fuck destination lol
We've already seen both FS and Destination played hundreds of times in the past 4 years, if it were up to me I'd just remove them and replace them with either SOSPA maps(Mist)/Unused KESPA maps (Athena, Triathlon, a myriad of other maps)/New foreigner made maps.
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Foreign leagues should:Keep the map pool the way it is (5) 31% Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add Foreigner made maps. (3) 19% Mix these commonly used maps with unused maps (3) 19% Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add a variety of unused maps (SOSPA,KESPA and Foreign) (3) 19% Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add new SOSPA maps (1) 6% Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add older KESPA maps (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Foreign leagues should: (Vote): Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add Foreigner made maps.
(Vote): Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add new SOSPA maps
(Vote): Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add older KESPA maps
(Vote): Mix these commonly used maps with unused maps
(Vote): Keep the map pool the way it is
(Vote): Remove overused maps like Fighting Spirit and add a variety of unused maps (SOSPA,KESPA and Foreign)
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