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Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
December 08 2014 05:32 GMT
#1761
wtf. I meant to go to bed like an hour ago, instead i played 2 games and then watched (again...for like the thousandth time) boxer bunker rush yellow 3 times in a row
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
sickkungen
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden179 Posts
December 09 2014 21:12 GMT
#1762
Anyone know how it looks when you get banned on fish?

I can't connect at all anymore
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 10 2014 00:53 GMT
#1763
On December 10 2014 06:12 sickkungen wrote:
Anyone know how it looks when you get banned on fish?

I can't connect at all anymore

Do some searches here at TL, a few months ago, I recall someone posting a screenshot of a pop-up window in Korean notifying him he had been banned. The pop-up appeared right after entering his login information

Maybe you're experiencing lag? Or maybe consider trying to create a new account to see if that resolves things?
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 10 2014 01:13 GMT
#1764
Some TLPD (Korean Amateur) updates:

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
December 10 2014 04:08 GMT
#1765
Poll: If no spells or abilities could be used, which race would be strongest

Zerg (208)
 
63%

Terran (95)
 
29%

Protoss (28)
 
8%

331 total votes

Your vote: If no spells or abilities could be used, which race would be strongest

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Protoss

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Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 04:15:49
December 10 2014 04:14 GMT
#1766
-1 from Terran, +1 to zerg. No spells, it goes to Terran, but no abilities, IDK how Terran is supposed to compete without mines, siege, and stimpack, and Protoss without interceptors, scarabs, arbiters, or storm.

Protoss would still beat Terran probably due to mass goon being uncounterable without machine shop abilities. I don't count Heal as an ability since it's an automated action 99% of the time
get stronger play longer
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 05:18:09
December 10 2014 05:13 GMT
#1767
On December 10 2014 13:14 Mirabel_ wrote:
-1 from Terran, +1 to zerg. No spells, it goes to Terran, but no abilities, IDK how Terran is supposed to compete without mines, siege, and stimpack, and Protoss without interceptors, scarabs, arbiters, or storm.

Protoss would still beat Terran probably due to mass goon being uncounterable without machine shop abilities. I don't count Heal as an ability since it's an automated action 99% of the time


everything that you see in the bottom side of the 3X3 is counted as spells or abilities.
meaning units can only be moved or attack move.
which means you cannot burrow lurkers etc. even
zerg would still be the best race here since mutas would utterly decimate zvt and sauron zerg style would crush storm-less toss (remember templars can't even morph into archons because of this).
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
December 10 2014 05:25 GMT
#1768
How about merge into archons?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 09:52:45
December 10 2014 09:46 GMT
#1769
I don't think it looks bad for protoss. goon/zlot would be strong enough to hold out against completely unupgraded T bio (no medic) or hydra/ling, sair could handle muta much like a normal game, cannons everywhere, and maybe aim to push out DT/arbiter. If arbiter isn't allowed because we are counting it's cloaking as an ability, then science vessels/observers would be out as well for their ability to detect, right? So still a DT running around with only slow ovie or static structures to detect, nice form of map control especially if you have some of those sairs still alive.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
December 10 2014 10:02 GMT
#1770
I think 5 hatch would just crush everything
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1757 Posts
December 10 2014 18:44 GMT
#1771
What about Dark Swarm? Zerg is super dependant on it vs Terran. So lategame ZvT is almost impossible to win.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 19:00:40
December 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#1772
Hydras shit on marines if they dont have stim, unless it's stupidly large numbers and then there's ultra to consider since it's lategame.

does morphing guardians count?

and i missclicked the poll, wanted to click z not t
In the woods, there lurks..
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
December 11 2014 00:19 GMT
#1773
Whats it like as someone trying to improve and get good as BW as a foreigner ?

is there an active enough foreign scene to make it worth it ?

Once you get good is there a lot of lag on fish ?

amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 11 2014 00:38 GMT
#1774
On December 11 2014 09:19 KDot2 wrote:
Whats it like as someone trying to improve and get good as BW as a foreigner ?

is there an active enough foreign scene to make it worth it ?

Once you get good is there a lot of lag on fish ?



you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, you lose, then you keep losing, then you lose, but you start to get closer games, you keep losing but you're getting there, then you finally win a game! Then you start to win maybe 1 out of 10 games, but you're getting there! soon, you start to actually climb the ladder meeting better an better players. But wait, this process continues on forever!

well, the foreign scenes has enough players in the d to c- range, but most players C and above plays on fish. Lag isn't bad to fish, but koreans can be mean and kick you alot from lobbies if they don't like ya.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 11 2014 13:03 GMT
#1775
Playing on fish without being able to port forward is forever going to seem impossible to me
In the woods, there lurks..
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 11 2014 13:19 GMT
#1776
On December 11 2014 09:38 amazingxkcd wrote:
koreans can be mean.

Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 14:18:07
December 11 2014 14:16 GMT
#1777
!!!! Mong's stream
HOLY SHIIET
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
December 11 2014 14:18 GMT
#1778
Is that EffOrt?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 11 2014 14:20 GMT
#1779
(Z)EffOrt.
En Taro Violet
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 11 2014 14:34 GMT
#1780
okay i want proleague now
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