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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
June 05 2022 11:50 GMT
#8441
oh its julia lmao all good
Commentator
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-05 13:09:06
June 05 2022 13:02 GMT
#8442
On June 05 2022 19:14 GTR wrote:
that is from 2006 (16 years ago), people age...


People dont magically grow a completely different face :D


On June 05 2022 20:35 bioboyAT wrote:
blackmanpl is not the blackman from back in the days. blackmanpl aka Julia is just a random dude with anger/mental issues. Quick taste about what people think about him:
https://tl.net/blogs/568588-maphacking-streamcheating-accusations


You must be one of those clever guys.. "People" who comments in a hate thread obviously are biased and they are the only ones who would comment/agree in such a thread. Rest of the "people" dont care nor hate him.

I find the guy amusing to watch myself. And yea, stream sniping is for kids.
-.-
imscochin
Profile Joined June 2022
1 Post
June 10 2022 12:54 GMT
#8443
thank for your post
anniejackson
Profile Joined June 2022
1 Post
June 11 2022 14:16 GMT
#8444
On September 09 2013 22:08 N.geNuity wrote:
what's the jist of this article sonic posted on facebook:
http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?fs-18-unlimited-money-category=sports_esports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000045163&redirect=true

title just says like star1 daebak.



Thanks for sharing!
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
June 11 2022 15:17 GMT
#8445
I've been watching the star university season religiously, and oh my goodness it's so fun. Unfortunately, it's not as friendly or approachable for non-English speakers. But the storylines, the games (even the low skill ones), and the extra content coming out of the colleges have been so much fun to watch. And it's been so good for the SC scene at least in Korea because it is constantly bringing in new streamers to pick up the game.

You can see the rosters here. A lot of the teams are structured where they'll have a ceo/leader and then a co-lead. Usually the lead and co lead are former pros or sponsors for the team (like Best & JD's college Basford is led by a tier 7 zerg). Then the roster usually has like ~6 mentors/profs who are former pros. Then there are the players who are ranked by different tiers. + Show Spoiler +
God > King > Jack > Joker > Tier 0 > Tier 1 > ... > Tier 8 > Baby
You can see the rosters here

In each game, the players play against others of matching tiers from the other college. As you go lower in tier, it's funny because like the games can be "unloseable" for a pro and still they'll find ways to lose it. You get crazy builds and fun units because guardians are hard to handle when they outrange your static d and because mutalisks are hard to use a lower levels.

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

And then the storylines are fun and sad at the same time. Obviously there's an element of it being for show. + Show Spoiler +
Like Terror/철구 has a college he ran with Shuttle and on Korea's Teachers Day, he turned on the broadcast and lots of members showed up and gave him gifts. When the first person just gave a bouquet of flowers without an envelope, he made her log in to her Afreeca account and then donated himself her full balloon balance of ~$140. Then he hit her on top of her head with the flowers. XD
Then there's the like full on rebuilding colleges that more or less disband when they lose. Sometimes some players get a bit of hate for losing a ton and the netizens call for the dropping of some people, which isn't the funnest part of the scene.

That's why my favorite college to follow is Calm Sung Women's University which is Calm and Actions (name Kim Sung Dae) university. They are only 2 coaches and their roster is like half the size of other colleges. All Zerg because no other coaches and all female players (the joke is that they all simp for Calm). They explicitly are like "our college is going to win by the power of friendship; no toxicity allowed." Even after they lost in the round of 8, they just hang out and play a ton of games together (PubG, Kart Rider, SC UMS games), so it's a lot of fun and positive vibes
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3016 Posts
June 11 2022 17:16 GMT
#8446
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I've been watching the star university season religiously, and oh my goodness it's so fun. Unfortunately, it's not as friendly or approachable for non-English speakers. But the storylines, the games (even the low skill ones), and the extra content coming out of the colleges have been so much fun to watch. And it's been so good for the SC scene at least in Korea because it is constantly bringing in new streamers to pick up the game.

You can see the rosters here. A lot of the teams are structured where they'll have a ceo/leader and then a co-lead. Usually the lead and co lead are former pros or sponsors for the team (like Best & JD's college Basford is led by a tier 7 zerg). Then the roster usually has like ~6 mentors/profs who are former pros. Then there are the players who are ranked by different tiers. + Show Spoiler +
God > King > Jack > Joker > Tier 0 > Tier 1 > ... > Tier 8 > Baby
You can see the rosters here

In each game, the players play against others of matching tiers from the other college. As you go lower in tier, it's funny because like the games can be "unloseable" for a pro and still they'll find ways to lose it. You get crazy builds and fun units because guardians are hard to handle when they outrange your static d and because mutalisks are hard to use a lower levels.

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

And then the storylines are fun and sad at the same time. Obviously there's an element of it being for show. + Show Spoiler +
Like Terror/철구 has a college he ran with Shuttle and on Korea's Teachers Day, he turned on the broadcast and lots of members showed up and gave him gifts. When the first person just gave a bouquet of flowers without an envelope, he made her log in to her Afreeca account and then donated himself her full balloon balance of ~$140. Then he hit her on top of her head with the flowers. XD
Then there's the like full on rebuilding colleges that more or less disband when they lose. Sometimes some players get a bit of hate for losing a ton and the netizens call for the dropping of some people, which isn't the funnest part of the scene.

That's why my favorite college to follow is Calm Sung Women's University which is Calm and Actions (name Kim Sung Dae) university. They are only 2 coaches and their roster is like half the size of other colleges. All Zerg because no other coaches and all female players (the joke is that they all simp for Calm). They explicitly are like "our college is going to win by the power of friendship; no toxicity allowed." Even after they lost in the round of 8, they just hang out and play a ton of games together (PubG, Kart Rider, SC UMS games), so it's a lot of fun and positive vibes

Let's be honest.

The real reason the Star University is exciting is we get to see pretty girls playing Brood War xD.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
June 11 2022 18:44 GMT
#8447
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD.


I am glad for the pros making that kind of money so they keep the game playing.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
June 11 2022 23:17 GMT
#8448
On June 12 2022 02:16 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I've been watching the star university season religiously, and oh my goodness it's so fun. Unfortunately, it's not as friendly or approachable for non-English speakers. But the storylines, the games (even the low skill ones), and the extra content coming out of the colleges have been so much fun to watch. And it's been so good for the SC scene at least in Korea because it is constantly bringing in new streamers to pick up the game.

You can see the rosters here. A lot of the teams are structured where they'll have a ceo/leader and then a co-lead. Usually the lead and co lead are former pros or sponsors for the team (like Best & JD's college Basford is led by a tier 7 zerg). Then the roster usually has like ~6 mentors/profs who are former pros. Then there are the players who are ranked by different tiers. + Show Spoiler +
God > King > Jack > Joker > Tier 0 > Tier 1 > ... > Tier 8 > Baby
You can see the rosters here

In each game, the players play against others of matching tiers from the other college. As you go lower in tier, it's funny because like the games can be "unloseable" for a pro and still they'll find ways to lose it. You get crazy builds and fun units because guardians are hard to handle when they outrange your static d and because mutalisks are hard to use a lower levels.

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

And then the storylines are fun and sad at the same time. Obviously there's an element of it being for show. + Show Spoiler +
Like Terror/철구 has a college he ran with Shuttle and on Korea's Teachers Day, he turned on the broadcast and lots of members showed up and gave him gifts. When the first person just gave a bouquet of flowers without an envelope, he made her log in to her Afreeca account and then donated himself her full balloon balance of ~$140. Then he hit her on top of her head with the flowers. XD
Then there's the like full on rebuilding colleges that more or less disband when they lose. Sometimes some players get a bit of hate for losing a ton and the netizens call for the dropping of some people, which isn't the funnest part of the scene.

That's why my favorite college to follow is Calm Sung Women's University which is Calm and Actions (name Kim Sung Dae) university. They are only 2 coaches and their roster is like half the size of other colleges. All Zerg because no other coaches and all female players (the joke is that they all simp for Calm). They explicitly are like "our college is going to win by the power of friendship; no toxicity allowed." Even after they lost in the round of 8, they just hang out and play a ton of games together (PubG, Kart Rider, SC UMS games), so it's a lot of fun and positive vibes

Let's be honest.

The real reason the Star University is exciting is we get to see pretty girls playing Brood War xD.

heh~ definitely not a negative... but when i saw someone floating 5000/3000 in one of the round of 4 games I never related more :D Also was trying to plug the scene to people who might not have anything else to watch between ASLs
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
June 12 2022 10:29 GMT
#8449
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I've been watching the star university season religiously, and oh my goodness it's so fun. Unfortunately, it's not as friendly or approachable for non-English speakers. But the storylines, the games (even the low skill ones), and the extra content coming out of the colleges have been so much fun to watch. And it's been so good for the SC scene at least in Korea because it is constantly bringing in new streamers to pick up the game.

You can see the rosters here. A lot of the teams are structured where they'll have a ceo/leader and then a co-lead. Usually the lead and co lead are former pros or sponsors for the team (like Best & JD's college Basford is led by a tier 7 zerg). Then the roster usually has like ~6 mentors/profs who are former pros. Then there are the players who are ranked by different tiers. + Show Spoiler +
God > King > Jack > Joker > Tier 0 > Tier 1 > ... > Tier 8 > Baby
You can see the rosters here

In each game, the players play against others of matching tiers from the other college. As you go lower in tier, it's funny because like the games can be "unloseable" for a pro and still they'll find ways to lose it. You get crazy builds and fun units because guardians are hard to handle when they outrange your static d and because mutalisks are hard to use a lower levels.

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

And then the storylines are fun and sad at the same time. Obviously there's an element of it being for show. + Show Spoiler +
Like Terror/철구 has a college he ran with Shuttle and on Korea's Teachers Day, he turned on the broadcast and lots of members showed up and gave him gifts. When the first person just gave a bouquet of flowers without an envelope, he made her log in to her Afreeca account and then donated himself her full balloon balance of ~$140. Then he hit her on top of her head with the flowers. XD
Then there's the like full on rebuilding colleges that more or less disband when they lose. Sometimes some players get a bit of hate for losing a ton and the netizens call for the dropping of some people, which isn't the funnest part of the scene.

That's why my favorite college to follow is Calm Sung Women's University which is Calm and Actions (name Kim Sung Dae) university. They are only 2 coaches and their roster is like half the size of other colleges. All Zerg because no other coaches and all female players (the joke is that they all simp for Calm). They explicitly are like "our college is going to win by the power of friendship; no toxicity allowed." Even after they lost in the round of 8, they just hang out and play a ton of games together (PubG, Kart Rider, SC UMS games), so it's a lot of fun and positive vibes


its all esports entertainment pal.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
June 12 2022 11:44 GMT
#8450
I highly agree with Bisu-Fan. The university scene is the best thing to have happened to brood war since Afreeca started ASL after sonic's shoe scandal.
Hell maybe even since the end of the proleague era. This is the best shot Brood War has had at raising a new generation of players. Not only do you have lower tier players being tought by pros, it is also happening on stream for anyone at home to watch and learn as well. Sure a lot of the players are girls, but heck just imagine if all the twitch girls that stream half naked from a plastic pool and write sub names on their arms would instead learn brood war and take their incel audience along for the ride. It is truly amazing. And yes some of the games are low tier, but imo that just adds to the entertainment value. You can follow a low tier players stream and watch them become better and better as they are being trained in their university.

It would be amazing if tasteless and artosis could cover it, just to bring more attention to the university scene for non-koreans. But given that they couldn't get ASTL, my hopes aren't super high for that.
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland301 Posts
June 12 2022 12:36 GMT
#8451
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

Sick game, what a turnaround!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
June 14 2022 15:59 GMT
#8452
On June 12 2022 20:44 Lorch wrote:
I highly agree with Bisu-Fan. The university scene is the best thing to have happened to brood war since Afreeca started ASL after sonic's shoe scandal.
Hell maybe even since the end of the proleague era. This is the best shot Brood War has had at raising a new generation of players. Not only do you have lower tier players being tought by pros, it is also happening on stream for anyone at home to watch and learn as well. Sure a lot of the players are girls, but heck just imagine if all the twitch girls that stream half naked from a plastic pool and write sub names on their arms would instead learn brood war and take their incel audience along for the ride. It is truly amazing. And yes some of the games are low tier, but imo that just adds to the entertainment value. You can follow a low tier players stream and watch them become better and better as they are being trained in their university.

It would be amazing if tasteless and artosis could cover it, just to bring more attention to the university scene for non-koreans. But given that they couldn't get ASTL, my hopes aren't super high for that.


The guys tend to be handpicked by pros (I know that Soulkey at least does it.) I watched an audition where 2100 was matched against tier 3 college player and it was like amateur vs pro, so there is actual growth. But most important thing IMO is, that those semi- and exproes who were streaming BW as part time have now constant source of income with enviroment to practice. The likes of Bishop, Noob and Yoon for example. Dunno, maybe Scan could shed some information about this, I know he is in JSA now. (Lights team)
it's not just a music it's something else
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
June 14 2022 17:37 GMT
#8453
Yup like astl was fun but it had like king, jack, queen (basically all female tiers were lumped into queen) and joker. Which made only the best personalities and skill players able to survive. This now allows for so much wider of a scope for the scene. Every season there are new people picking up the game from other backgrounds (lol and pubg streamers). Some move on to other games after the college season but a lot stay after realizing that bw is still lots of fun while also being a viable income source. There's definitely a lot of progression too which is fun to see. I think some of the funner content is the classes. Calm spent 5 hours teaching his college students how to drone split and how to optimize spawning pool timing. I've learned so much watching the classes too then you have terror's college that straight up yells nonstop at the students which is cringe funny
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
June 14 2022 17:37 GMT
#8454
On June 12 2022 21:36 DiMiaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2022 00:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:

These people are super dedicated too. In prep for the playoff games, the college members and coaches like went blackout mode where no one was streaming or earning any money just to practice (some said like up to 50 games a day). That's why you see the crazy emotions when they win unlike maybe ASTL which was a bit more lighthearted. Also why when Bisu won his game in the playoffs (really good game btw), he went home, turned on stream, and got 170K balloons which I think is like 15K USD. I just worry and hope they don't burn out because not everyone is fit to play and practice like a former pro.

Sick game, what a turnaround!

Yup occasionally the pros play if the lineups call for it and they also definitely put a lot of effort into it. More than everyday proleague because they have like 5 day notice of the matchup
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
June 15 2022 07:57 GMT
#8455
Given the growing audience, is it possible that companies like samsung, skt, etc will be interested in sponsoring SC again?
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
June 16 2022 19:28 GMT
#8456
On June 15 2022 16:57 masoka82 wrote:
Given the growing audience, is it possible that companies like samsung, skt, etc will be interested in sponsoring SC again?

hmmm i doubt it would be anytime soon. it's still very amateur-y + afreeca. Like there are sponsorships (winning team of university league season gets ~$50k) from smaller businesses but idk about corporations getting back in
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 19 2022 14:37 GMT
#8457
Hey y'all, also wanted to post here that I'm going to upload every MSL match I can to YouTube and link them on Liquipedia, including survivor tournaments. It'll probably take several weeks as I go through everything, but I wanted to get the collection updated so that the community can reminisce on MSL and so the growing Brood War audience can have a way to see incredible matches in one place
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5391 Posts
June 20 2022 14:11 GMT
#8458
That's fantastic plasmid, thanks for doing!
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
June 20 2022 16:36 GMT
#8459
On June 19 2022 23:37 plasmidghost wrote:
Hey y'all, also wanted to post here that I'm going to upload every MSL match I can to YouTube and link them on Liquipedia, including survivor tournaments. It'll probably take several weeks as I go through everything, but I wanted to get the collection updated so that the community can reminisce on MSL and so the growing Brood War audience can have a way to see incredible matches in one place

LEGENDARY!!!

Thank you very very much, dude
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
nextgenPharmak
Profile Joined June 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2022-06-21 12:11:04
June 21 2022 12:10 GMT
#8460
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