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bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
January 04 2022 12:29 GMT
#8041
I just dont get it why would they stop Artosis and Tasteless do the cover since Afreeca dont pay nothing,they got English cover for free and they upload it on Afreeca youtube channel. What they can lose to just upload VODs with english cover?
There is no difference between this and ASL,why ASL is allowed and ASTL not?
There is so many questions to answer and since Artosis got LOT of money via Patreon it would be nice from him to come to this thread and give community some answers since most of us donate him and Nick money via patreon.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
January 04 2022 12:54 GMT
#8042
When I casted ASTL season 1 I got permission to cast it. I uploaded it to my channel later on and afreeca copystrike my channel.If you check progamers youtube they also cant upload full games.They doing highlights. The reason I was given back then is that afreeca only paid to Blizzard for the korean rights to pull this events.
But is weird to me they also not allowing Scan Nyoken to cast it now on Afreeca. Every progamer is doing it.
MonkeyLibrary
Profile Joined January 2020
1 Post
January 05 2022 05:11 GMT
#8043
you could ask Cruiser who runs the channel.


Cruiser posted a long note on his Youtube about his viewership being so low he might be forced to stop doing StarCast. I don't think anyone in the foreign scene has any leverage at all right now, unfortunately.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 05:21:50
January 05 2022 05:21 GMT
#8044
On January 05 2022 14:11 MonkeyLibrary wrote:
Show nested quote +
you could ask Cruiser who runs the channel.


Cruiser posted a long note on his Youtube about his viewership being so low he might be forced to stop doing StarCast. I don't think anyone in the foreign scene has any leverage at all right now, unfortunately.


he needs to re-iterate to any stakeholders that you cannot use live streaming numbers as a success yardstick for his channel. most of the target audience won't be able to view live streams and can only watch vods during their spare time.
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
January 06 2022 02:49 GMT
#8045
Is anyone else having trouble getting the SCHNAIL AI client to open the game in full screen? I've messed around with settings and still haven't been able to get it working. Appreciate it
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10149 Posts
January 06 2022 03:54 GMT
#8046
On January 06 2022 11:49 Immaterial wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble getting the SCHNAIL AI client to open the game in full screen? I've messed around with settings and still haven't been able to get it working. Appreciate it

I would suggest joining the Discord and checking the FAQ and using the Search function in order to see if anyone had similar issues to you; there are a lot of factors that go into determining what is causing an issue (OS and stuff like that) so there may be multiple answers and the only way to troubleshoot would be through an interactive medium like Discord IMO.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
January 09 2022 23:07 GMT
#8047
Anyone else having issues w/ ladder queue being super long?
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
January 10 2022 08:24 GMT
#8048
I was playing few games 10h ago and I was matched instantly, and interestingly vs Koreans.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-11 16:08:38
January 11 2022 16:08 GMT
#8049
It is better today, maybe someone restarted something xD
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25271 Posts
January 11 2022 16:31 GMT
#8050
On January 12 2022 01:08 yenta wrote:
It is better today, maybe someone restarted something xD

The intern finally gave up and went for the tried and tested ‘turn it off and on again’ strategy.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 14 2022 05:46 GMT
#8051
anyone know if NSU_Spider is one of those afreeca bw "college" streamers? and if so what the url is

i played against that name on ladder and usually if i play someone that's streaming i try to look at the stream because i want to know what the fpvod vs me looks like
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
January 14 2022 15:46 GMT
#8052
Do any of you guys have some suggestions for a English youtube channel similar in content to Artosis but without the rage and the obnoxious donations? I mostly enjoy his content and I like watching FPV BW but the raging and his attitude towards balance are not for me.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42671 Posts
January 14 2022 16:09 GMT
#8053
On January 15 2022 00:46 Sjokola wrote:
Do any of you guys have some suggestions for a English youtube channel similar in content to Artosis but without the rage and the obnoxious donations? I mostly enjoy his content and I like watching FPV BW but the raging and his attitude towards balance are not for me.

There are plenty of S rank English speaking streamers on Twitch. Which race were you after?
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
January 14 2022 16:15 GMT
#8054
On January 15 2022 00:46 Sjokola wrote:
Do any of you guys have some suggestions for a English youtube channel similar in content to Artosis but without the rage and the obnoxious donations? I mostly enjoy his content and I like watching FPV BW but the raging and his attitude towards balance are not for me.

I heard about this guy Kwark who streams sometimes. He's quite ascerbic but not ragey.
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quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-14 21:46:17
January 14 2022 21:13 GMT
#8055
On January 15 2022 00:46 Sjokola wrote:
Do any of you guys have some suggestions for a English youtube channel similar in content to Artosis but without the rage and the obnoxious donations? I mostly enjoy his content and I like watching FPV BW but the raging and his attitude towards balance are not for me.

ive watched the stream archives of hawk, koget, kwark, and masterray on and off. terroru also speaks english a lot tho there's a lot of spanish. im not a super active viewer of any of them. so i mightve missed some bad stuff, but i haven't noticed any.

they seem like they have better attitudes than artosis and i havent noticed them saying slurs like some of the other english language bw streamers

scan speaks some english too though i noticed the last couple times i watched he seemed angry and i wonder if artosis's attitude is rubbing off on him :/

On January 14 2022 14:46 quaristice wrote:
anyone know if NSU_Spider is one of those afreeca bw "college" streamers? and if so what the url is

i played against that name on ladder and usually if i play someone that's streaming i try to look at the stream because i want to know what the fpvod vs me looks like


continuing this, i looked through the list of NSU streamers on some of the sites in korean, my korean is pretty bad, and i couldnt figure out some of their urls or tags?


edit: you know, tying these two topics together, i think artosis's scrub mentality is damaging to the community tbh

i played a terran on ladder a while back on my zerg account (i'm a random main). this is at E rank. my opponent made a lot of really fundamental errors and gambled on a 2 rax academy one base play that did nothing. and later i ran over them with ultraling with upgrades. and i thought the person's name was familiar so i googled it, and then found their twitch archive, and found that they had been streaming. turns out the name was familiar because they're an artosis twitch chatter. and like, the player was soo mad at their loss, and they kept saying stuff like "this is just like how artosis loses", "artosis is right", "the zerg just SAT THERE", and they spent like 5+ minutes ranting about this stuff and then turned off their stream. 0 reflection about why they lost, or how to improve. like this person just really thinks that zerg has some obligation to attack move mass ling into a 1base 2rax academy play or something

and the reality is i'm higher rank on my terran account than my zerg account lol?

it honestly made me laugh a lot but i also felt bad for them

like idk, i'm pretty ass at starcraft, i only started laddering after a 10+ year break about? 2 months ago? but in those 10 years i went and got good at other games that weren't starcraft. i've learned about improving. and i learned about what a scrub mentality looks like. and that right there is a scrub mentality. and it sucks to have such a prominent member of the community saying this stuff and having low rank people follow it. it's bad for the health of the game. it's bad for those players. and i can't imagine it's good for artosis.

but i also don't know that he cares considering how many donations he gets directly because of it
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10149 Posts
January 14 2022 22:13 GMT
#8056
On January 15 2022 06:13 quaristice wrote:
but i also don't know that he cares considering how many donations he gets directly because of it

In the end that's what it comes down to. He found a formula, a niche, a persona that makes him money. He does this for money, because what else would he do? He isn't skilled enough to win or even participate in high level tours. So how can he make money in Brood War? By being a clown basically. People pay for the show and he performs.

The fact that it is probably bad for him or bad for noobies who take his words as gospel, is all secondary to the fact that he needs to put food on the table, and I understand that.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 14 2022 22:24 GMT
#8057
yeah sure i know this stuff is mostly externalities to him but i can still say it sucks a whole lot
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4091 Posts
January 15 2022 01:26 GMT
#8058
Markiplier or PewDiePie never had to become toxic to build a huge following, and they're not the exception with their very positive approach.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10149 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-15 01:38:05
January 15 2022 01:35 GMT
#8059
On January 15 2022 10:26 Magic Powers wrote:
Markiplier or PewDiePie never had to become toxic to build a huge following, and they're not the exception with their very positive approach.

I feel like Artosis had already pigeonholed himself into this kind of persona/role before he ever started streaming and promoting his own brand, much like how IdrA was a bit of a vocal dick before ever becoming a high level player. It wouldn't have made sense for him to rebrand himself as a positive, zen-like guru of StarCraft. I wasn't trying to imply that it's all an act; it may be dramatized for the public, but a lot of what he says is probably* true to what he believes or what he is feeling at the time. Furthermore, on the topic of it being bad for Artosis, even self-forced behavior will fundamentally change us over time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
January 15 2022 04:25 GMT
#8060
i dont believe artosis' stream persona is a persona. its actually him.
it would be incredibly difficult to keep up the 12 yr old raging spoilt brat persona throughout the entirety of the stream and make it as genuine as it is if it were all an act. that level of acting would be too mentally taxing, although it would be very impressive acting skill.
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