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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
July 27 2017 23:05 GMT
#3721
On July 28 2017 07:13 Ancestral wrote:
Not sure if there's a simple answer simple question Brood War thread, but Blizzard APM doesn't count training/building when you don't have enough resources.

This is incorrect, right? Don't BWChart and BWRepInfo both count these actions?

Replays don't store enough info to accurately determine available available minerals, so yes, replay utilities count such actions. BWChart also calculates APM in a way that doesn't map well to whatever Blizz is doing ingame anyway, I'd assume (APMAlert had a formula that resulted in *somewhat* similar values, Blizz's seem pretty consistently to be far too high).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 28 2017 00:44 GMT
#3722
Aww and here I thought I had just gotten a lot faster since the last time I used APMAlert! Oh well, the real use is comparing against myself, so I guess Blizz can do for a quick back-of-the-envelope comparison. BWChart will remain more useful for real statistics.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 28 2017 01:56 GMT
#3723
Any news on the next ASL, are they going to wait for remastered first?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10312 Posts
July 28 2017 02:03 GMT
#3724
On July 28 2017 09:44 Ancestral wrote:
Aww and here I thought I had just gotten a lot faster since the last time I used APMAlert! Oh well, the real use is comparing against myself, so I guess Blizz can do for a quick back-of-the-envelope comparison. BWChart will remain more useful for real statistics.

The APM counter seems to me inflated by about 10-25% while eapm by about 50-100% relative to what I've gotten used to through mca.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 14:31:57
July 28 2017 14:31 GMT
#3725
[image loading]

Leta's BW School
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 28 2017 14:44 GMT
#3726
On July 28 2017 23:31 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]

Leta's BW School

How much do they pay and does Leta accept noobs (like me?)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6832 Posts
July 28 2017 14:51 GMT
#3727
oh my gosh thats freaking coool WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
July 28 2017 14:52 GMT
#3728
Dam, that is the beginning of bringing in new talent to BW! I hope that things like Leta's initiative here result in new blood that can one day challenge the former pros.
www.broodwarmaps.net
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
July 28 2017 15:25 GMT
#3729
Info is here
http://taling.me/Talent/Detail/807#tabtop

But it is korean, so people can read korean go this link.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
July 28 2017 16:28 GMT
#3730
Holy fuck that's awesome.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
July 28 2017 17:36 GMT
#3731
I wonder if he has special methods to motivate his energetic disciples...


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
July 28 2017 22:49 GMT
#3732
On July 29 2017 02:36 Highgamer wrote:
I wonder if he has special methods to motivate his energetic disciples...


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Is that Leta?
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 28 2017 23:27 GMT
#3733
On July 29 2017 07:49 KungKras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 02:36 Highgamer wrote:
I wonder if he has special methods to motivate his energetic disciples...


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Is that Leta?

Yes it is.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-29 01:54:06
July 29 2017 01:49 GMT
#3734
Addtional news.

OSL will return.

Format will be alike Vant 36.5.

Sea gives me this info.

From February, i continuously mentioned OSL's returns.

Now, it become real.

But Sea cant participate in this new league.

He did spoiler after oksusu legend match,

So OGN dont like him.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 29 2017 02:05 GMT
#3735
Oh wow that's awesome (poor sea :D)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
July 29 2017 02:35 GMT
#3736
For me OGN was the big wildcard in Brood War's return to glory. If SPOTV stays the course and continues the SSL Classic, that means Afreeca, SPOTV, and OGN will all be doing premier events for the forseeable future plus any team & clan events. Great news for Brood War fans.

However this could potenially lead to korean SC2 getting squeezed out of the picture in the next 18 months or so.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
starithm
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States118 Posts
July 29 2017 02:36 GMT
#3737
On July 29 2017 10:49 K.H.J wrote:
Addtional news.

OSL will return.

Format will be alike Vant 36.5.

Sea gives me this info.

From February, i continuously mentioned OSL's returns.

Now, it become real.

But Sea cant participate in this new league.

He did spoiler after oksusu legend match,

So OGN dont like him.


Awesome! And your block of text looks like a nice poem, hehe.
http://www.twitch.tv/starithm
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50754 Posts
July 29 2017 02:46 GMT
#3738
On July 29 2017 10:49 K.H.J wrote:
Addtional news.

OSL will return.

Format will be alike Vant 36.5.

Sea gives me this info.

From February, i continuously mentioned OSL's returns.

Now, it become real.

But Sea cant participate in this new league.

He did spoiler after oksusu legend match,

So OGN dont like him.


T_T

Starleague is finally back.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
July 29 2017 03:15 GMT
#3739
Guys... we've been dreaming for this and it's finally here :0
www.broodwarmaps.net
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
July 29 2017 03:23 GMT
#3740
On July 29 2017 10:49 K.H.J wrote:
Addtional news.

OSL will return.

Format will be alike Vant 36.5.

Sea gives me this info.

From February, i continuously mentioned OSL's returns.

Now, it become real.

But Sea cant participate in this new league.

He did spoiler after oksusu legend match,

So OGN dont like him.

I cant believe this is happening. I am so happy!
aka Kalevi
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