EPTNada appears in a German newspaper. - Page 4
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Imai_Eriko
Singapore57 Posts
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On July 22 2006 21:28 Imai_Eriko wrote: oh so my tone made u think otherwise? im not putting it down. im saying you DEFINITELY can think what you want. and about the girls part i didnt say you guys ARE like girls lol i said dont behave LIKE them. by letting ur heart take over ur head. anyway please do pick on stupid little shit like that anyway back to the topic: Hey, you were the one who mentioned it in your reply. Wait... what was your point of view again? You're saying that it isn't profitable to be a progamer JUST based on the amount of money they make? They make MORE money lifetime than most people in the world. PLUS, they have large endorsements, fame, and incredible fan-bases. For just a computer game, that's pretty awesome. What was your point? That it isn't? Can you do better? I'm sure you can't. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On July 22 2006 21:30 Imai_Eriko wrote: Good.. good... You finally learned to shut up?  You forgot the point of this thread and decided to diss on progamers and their "aimless" wander in life. However, you fail to see that they are doing quite well. | ||
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Imai_Eriko
Singapore57 Posts
im not the slightest bit pissed off or would i take this argument personally like u. in fact after reading ur last 2 posts. i gave a slight chuckle. "Good.. good... You finally learned to shut up? You forgot the point of this thread and decided to diss on progamers and their "aimless" wander in life. However, you fail to see that they are doing quite well." haha read my previous posts. i said theyre accomplished people and with all due respect etc etc. and if u forgot my points re read them. and focus on them. dont make personal attacks just because you have nothing to say. All im doing is voicing what i think, since this is a forum and not say things like. "You finally learned to shut up?" oh and yeah since i saw the word "You" appearing all over your posts. I know your arguments are taking the inclination of a personal attack. Can i do better than progamers? maybe? maybe not? but that doesnt remove my entitlement to post what i think on this forum. oh by the way next time dont judge beauty peagent contestants because youll NEVER EVER get a girlfriend like that. or will u ever look as equivalently good haha now you know how stupid you sound? if u wanna argue this way youll just carry on providing entertainment for me. and yeah ull get ur wish ill completely shut up. because its utterly pointless to post. =) | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Most of what you say is valid. An NBA player is will make more money for the work he puts in and being a progamer is a difficult job that requires extreme dedication. What you fail to see however, is that to earn his money he plays a fucking video game. The fact that you can earn any money at all playing video games is amazing and completely new. Of course it's not the dream profession (yet) of someone who just wants to make as much money with as little effort as possible, but if you love playing video games this might just be your dream profession. | ||
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towelie
Germany171 Posts
original arcticle | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
Starcraft is extremely popular in Korea with dedicated TV channels. Being one of the best at Starcraft, Nada should get paid more, but programing is still at its infancy so it is expected to make more money later. Again, thanks for the translation FireBlast! | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
I dont know why you take it as an insult to the whole progaming world. | ||
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Imai_Eriko
Singapore57 Posts
to each his own. =) | ||
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Selector
Germany243 Posts
the calculation 200,000 x 10 and 60,000 x 30 was so funny!! ;P how many players earn 200,000$ / year ? 2? 3? even when there are 2 or 3 - do they really get this money over a period like 10 years?! and how many "normal people" get 60,000 $ / year? A LOT! and even more earn this amount of money over a period of 30 years or more... the funny thing was the one with fallback - "could become starcraft commentators" ;D who says this game is gonna survive? we do not talk about soccer or football or baseball or basketball - we are talking about A VIDEO GAME! when i was younger i thought that pro-gamer is something nice / something that you could do for some time and it would be great fun... but now i just think that koreans are pathetic for being pride of having #1 sc nation. the pro-gamers wake up and train. eat while training and go to sleep after train. they have no social life , they have no real future (dont come up with boxer, there are some that could earn money with their pro-gaming career in future / but compare how many spent 14 hrs a day training and how many will get money / secured life out of it!) i first realized that when i saw the pictures of "pro-gaming" teams' houses... they just play play play - that can't be that fun... i agree that its amazing that they earn money and that it's something different etc. / something you maybe want to achieve but... its not the way of life; not at the moment. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28703 Posts
On July 22 2006 17:12 FrozenArbiter wrote: Hm, drone, the problem with this is how very short pro-sport careers generally are. If you invest 10 years into professional sport X you will likely not have that many options once you're done, so if you want it to be a viable option, the salary should be relatively high (although, 200 000$ a year is very nice ;o). 200k anually spending 100k a year which still is significantly more than average saves you $1 million for your retirement if you do it for 10 years meaning you'll have enough money to get by while you're trying to come up with something else to do | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Imai_Eriko
Singapore57 Posts
On July 25 2006 08:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: 200k anually spending 100k a year which still is significantly more than average saves you $1 million for your retirement if you do it for 10 years meaning you'll have enough money to get by while you're trying to come up with something else to do The average progamer doesnt stay at the top that long. All the calculations in all previous posts are as optimistic and hopeful as they can possibly possibly get. Its like using Ronaldinho's salary as a standard and determining football is financially promising. | ||
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africanboy
Korea (South)453 Posts
sorry for the bump i edit it T.T | ||
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EightSix
China62 Posts
On July 22 2006 21:51 Imai_Eriko wrote: dont make personal attacks just because you have nothing to say. All im doing is voicing what i think, since this is a forum and not say things like. "You finally learned to shut up?" oh and yeah since i saw the word "You" appearing all over your posts. I know your arguments are taking the inclination of a personal attack. Can i do better than progamers? maybe? maybe not? but that doesnt remove my entitlement to post what i think on this forum. =) This is how you talk: "re read my post and drill every single word into your thick skull because apparently the only dumbass is you. that amount of effort for that amount of money justified? stupid fuck." | ||
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NeVeRDiEDrOnE
Korea (South)227 Posts
And when you are not interested in art let the artists alone. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 22 2006 21:00 Imai_Eriko wrote: I dont see why an argument on views is slowly becomming a flamewar. Eternaleon: you might as well compare garbage collectors to nba stars. dont say youre comparing things in my perspective. you do not understand the laws of supply and demand. how many people have progaming talents. and how many people are able to work in factories? this should be really clear but i dont see why u dont see this yeah u talk about american athletes not being well educated. but you look at the amount of money they earn compared to korean progamers. see any difference? youve stated yourself that both careers require an insane amount of effort. ok. thats true. compare the payoff. you actually made your own argument crumble. oh and the 3rd part. Yeah they could coach teams, become broadcasters on TV and what not. yes, but definitely not as much. and go back to school and start from scatch? you would argue that they spend their schooling days earning lots of money and spend their supposed working days going back to school. i accept that. only by, keeping in mind that 200 thousand dollars is an amount i could live with comfortably you brought the flame war upon yourself by using a confrontational tone. It doesnt matter if you have a huge amount of talent if there is not a high enough demand for that talent, and a short enough supply of said talent. You, Imai_Eriko, could be the world's best talent at doing "monomane" (mimicing) of Imai Eriko. But obviously there isnt such a high demand for your godly talent in this world. Hence you wont be paid $1 million, even though you have unparallelled talent. Simple as that. American athletes in Major sports are paid the amount they do, becuase of the high demand and scarcity of such talent. If you look at professional volleyball players in America, they arent getting paid nearly as much as those in the major sports. They may be equally as excellently talented, but the demand isnt there, b/c the audeince doesnt demand it, and hence the sport doesnt demand it. Again, payoff is a funciton of the demand, not of the amount of hours they spend honing their craft, or the amount of talent they possess. WhatisProtoss has successfully refuted your support argument suggesting that since progamers practice extremely hard and should thus be paid much more. There is no correlation here. Plenty of professionals will work coming out of highschool, then will go to college again in their late 20's because they want to change careers. There is nothign unordinary about progamers hypothetically goign back to school for a career change. While I'm not in favor of WhatisProtoss' defaming nature of his tone, the points he brings up are solid counters to your arguments, Imai_Eriko. | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
And seriously... dont even act like you're just trying to have a friendly discussion. You clearly have a very stuck up tone. If you really didnt meant to offend anyone, try changing the way you make your damn post. Besides, most of your shit doesnt even make sense. | ||
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NeVeRDiEDrOnE
Korea (South)227 Posts
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