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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 00:43:49
April 13 2013 13:48 GMT
#1
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I present to SCBW - Kindgom of Clouds! (Cloud Kingdom *cough*)

c: Conversion from SC2.
Original map by SUPEROUMAN
Converted by CrystalDrag

Features
*Players : 2
*Map Size : 128x128
*Longer path offers alternate attack path/gives better engagements from multiple angles.
*Not much to say... But if you really want to read about it..

ChangeLog
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v1.1
*Increased main building space
*increase corner expansions area
*added neutral buildings
*changed main's mineral lines

v1.2
*fixed observer version


Differences between this and this conversion.
*Terrains level reflect their proper height (main high, pathway middle, low ground low)
*More overlord spots
*Expansions are more SCBW style, with one ramp, rather than being wide open and exposed.
*Space tileset
*Panda bear guy

From Thread ::
NegativeZero -
Definitely the best layout of all the CK versions I've seen. Good idea to use space terrain for the 3rd cliff level - the high ground 3rd definitely fixes the problem of a hard to take 3rd.

@traceurling: I was actually thinking about doing yet another version of CK, for better balance, but I think this one got it right so I won't bother.


Thread
Melee Download (1.2)
Observer Version (1.2)
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 13 2013 14:31 GMT
#2
I'm sure I've seen this conversion before...
here it is. Pretty interesting what minute details differ when comparing these maps.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10378 Posts
April 13 2013 15:03 GMT
#3
holy shit this is super good.

On April 13 2013 23:31 Hesmyrr wrote:
I'm sure I've seen this conversion before...
here it is. Pretty interesting what minute details differ when comparing these maps.

there are quite a few differences. better BW styled 3rd and the corner bases are also more BW styled. this map is in general a great map for BW while the previous map did not correlate as much into BW.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 13 2013 15:21 GMT
#4
The mains seem pretty small. Lategame Terran and Protoss bases might need to sprawl out onto the map.
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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
April 13 2013 15:29 GMT
#5
Are the mains that small?... I suppose it could be true...
They can build on the plating? ^~^ where they would rally most (i think)
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
April 13 2013 17:00 GMT
#6
They're not particularly small by any means. But this is a (2)map (and one that supports long macro games very well), so you cannot just take another main for macro space, as you could on a (4) or (3) map.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 13 2013 17:13 GMT
#7
wow this map looks goooood.

i hope this will be on iccup soon.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
April 13 2013 17:23 GMT
#8
The best version of this map, in my opinion.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 13 2013 17:53 GMT
#9
Wow, that looks amazing!
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t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
April 13 2013 17:57 GMT
#10
Deserves to win the contest,its not just a blind remake,it's balanced too.
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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
April 13 2013 18:03 GMT
#11
But i didn't submit this into the contest ^.^
I will add more main space then.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 13 2013 18:29 GMT
#12
On April 14 2013 03:03 CrystalDrag wrote:
But i didn't submit this into the contest ^.^
I will add more main space then.

I think someone else should submit it, it is honestly very good for bw.
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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
April 13 2013 19:53 GMT
#13
v1.1
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
April 13 2013 20:06 GMT
#14
All I can say is - everyone please forget my old CK conversion now, this one is the definitive remake.
vibeo gane,
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 13 2013 20:25 GMT
#15
I don't think neutrals on ramps are necessary now. The chokes look tight enough.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5795 Posts
April 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#16
It looks great. :D
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 13 2013 22:21 GMT
#17
Your ob version is one player.
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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
April 14 2013 01:05 GMT
#18
Okay I will fix the observer version, thank you all for positive feedback
I suppose I will remove the neutral buildings...
I may switch my submission to this one o.o
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#19
Nice map! Question about the power generator. are those stacked or single unit only?
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
April 14 2013 03:36 GMT
#20
On April 14 2013 00:21 EchOne wrote:
The mains seem pretty small. Lategame Terran and Protoss bases might need to sprawl out onto the map.


The original Cloud Kingdom was one of the smaller SC2 maps of its era, so it kind of fits.

This is a really sweet conversion. I can look at it and go "Oh yeah, Cloud Kingdom", but it looks a lot more like a BW map than an SC2 map reskinned. It keeps the feel of the original, but I think it'll lead to some cool BW games. I'd love to see some games on it.
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