On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
I don't really see anything "desperate" about this, its just people who are passionate about a game running a fun tournament for it. "Dead" is a matter of perspective, if the game has a community and players and is able to raise prizes, its not dead.
That said, I don't see how its possible to criticize this when it doesn't affect the average SC2 fan (like you) in any way. It simply makes people who love BW happy, and part of the TL community still loves BW. I could see an argument from SC2 fans if this somehow redirects or cuts into support for SC2 but obviously that isn't the case, a few thousand dollars and staff working on this doesn't change anything about what TL does for SC2. Are you seriously suggesting that we're doing this instead of a HotS tournament or something?
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Chess is so over the hill. Its all about English draughts now. Stop hurting board games by playing chess. Jerks.
On January 02 2013 03:58 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Rofl you.
Soo excited. There's going to be three right? Can't participate in the first one...maybe I can try doing something in #2!
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Only one desperate i can see is you trying to HINDER a classic (arguably the best) game from growing on the basis of a general interest that is rising instead of falling. This is something that always stood out for me when i think about broodwar. The passion of the players and the community (and the amazing BW staff of teamliquid) always surpassed everything any other community could offer. This, combined with BW's successful design and fanbase in korea, is what always brings me and many others back to BW time and time again. Something that SC2 could never achieve, although SC2 was the reason why i picked up BW again, after all. What's desperate about playing and watching a game we love?
The term 'dead' shouldn't be used when talking about BW, as it died an unnatural death. In fact, the fanbase in Korea is still stronger than the SC2 fanbase. BW was pushed away by the fact that SC2 is a newer, optically more polished game. But what was most important was the promotion that SC2 had with Blizzard as a backbone with super-high resources.
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On the tournament: this is so awesome. I always knew that BW would have an appearance sooner than anyone would have thought. We can already see that in the rising of the SSL and the fact that old commentators (public figures in korea, after all) all hop on the train of promoting a self-made BW productio filling university auditoriums.
Thanks TeamLiquid for not letting the passion for BW die. It's the game that made you great, and you made the game great.
I hope to see some old faces in this tournament, looking to grab some of the price money while picking up their old game. Any information on Mondragon, Testie, Draco, Kolll? Which old foreigner could we see in this tournament?
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Only one desperate i can see is you trying to HINDER a classic (arguably the best) game from growing on the basis of a general interest that is rising instead of falling. This is something that always stood out for me when i think about broodwar. The passion of the players and the community (and the amazing BW staff of teamliquid) always surpassed everything any other community could offer. This, combined with BW's successful design and fanbase in korea, is what always brings me and many others back to BW time and time again. Something that SC2 could never achieve, although SC2 was the reason why i picked up BW again, after all. What's desperate about playing and watching a game we love?
The term 'dead' shouldn't be used when talking about BW, as it died an unnatural death. In fact, the fanbase in Korea is still stronger than the SC2 fanbase. BW was pushed away by the fact that SC2 is a newer, optically more polished game. But what was most important was the promotion that SC2 had with Blizzard as a backbone with super-high resources.
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On the tournament: this is so awesome. I always knew that BW would have an appearance sooner than anyone would have thought. We can already see that in the rising of the SSL and the fact that old commentators (public figures in korea, after all) all hop on the train of promoting a self-made BW productio filling university auditoriums.
Thanks TeamLiquid for not letting the passion for BW die. It's the game that made you great, and you made the game great.
I hope to see some old faces in this tournament, looking to grab some of the price money while picking up their old game. Any information on Mondragon, Testie, Draco, Kolll? Which old foreigner could we see in this tournament?
My thoughts exactly, I was thinking last night " I wonder if Draco will return... " :D
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Only one desperate i can see is you trying to HINDER a classic (arguably the best) game from growing on the basis of a general interest that is rising instead of falling. This is something that always stood out for me when i think about broodwar. The passion of the players and the community (and the amazing BW staff of teamliquid) always surpassed everything any other community could offer. This, combined with BW's successful design and fanbase in korea, is what always brings me and many others back to BW time and time again. Something that SC2 could never achieve, although SC2 was the reason why i picked up BW again, after all. What's desperate about playing and watching a game we love?
BW love combined with a bitterness towards sc2 and what it supposedly has failed to achieve when compared to its predecessor does nothing but to alienate people new to the community and sc2, and it's hurting TL's image. Launcing a BW tournament now on the verge of a new expansion also puts TL's priorities into question.
Jesus Christ man, holy shit. Send your curriculum to Nazgul, they clearly need you leading their business.
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Only one desperate i can see is you trying to HINDER a classic (arguably the best) game from growing on the basis of a general interest that is rising instead of falling. This is something that always stood out for me when i think about broodwar. The passion of the players and the community (and the amazing BW staff of teamliquid) always surpassed everything any other community could offer. This, combined with BW's successful design and fanbase in korea, is what always brings me and many others back to BW time and time again. Something that SC2 could never achieve, although SC2 was the reason why i picked up BW again, after all. What's desperate about playing and watching a game we love?
BW love combined with a bitterness towards sc2 and what it supposedly has failed to achieve when compared to its predecessor does nothing but to alienate people new to the community and sc2, and it's hurting TL's image. Launcing a BW tournament now on the verge of a new expansion also puts TL's priorities into question.
Jesus Christ man, holy shit. Send your curriculum to Nazgul, they clearly need you leading their business.
Calm down, It's just the perspective of a common spectator, one which a certain portion of people might agree with.
dont you realize that tl is already going away from supporting sc2? look they even added dota2 and now they run bw tournament.
On January 02 2013 03:32 monkybone wrote: Why are you desperately trying revive a dead game like this? Why not try to promote HotS and make a HotS tournament or something? It seems like you are still in love with BW, and would rather invest into the past than the future.
Only one desperate i can see is you trying to HINDER a classic (arguably the best) game from growing on the basis of a general interest that is rising instead of falling. This is something that always stood out for me when i think about broodwar. The passion of the players and the community (and the amazing BW staff of teamliquid) always surpassed everything any other community could offer. This, combined with BW's successful design and fanbase in korea, is what always brings me and many others back to BW time and time again. Something that SC2 could never achieve, although SC2 was the reason why i picked up BW again, after all. What's desperate about playing and watching a game we love?
BW love combined with a bitterness towards sc2 and what it supposedly has failed to achieve when compared to its predecessor does nothing but to alienate people new to the community and sc2, and it's hurting TL's image. Launcing a BW tournament now on the verge of a new expansion also puts TL's priorities into question.
Jesus Christ man, holy shit. Send your curriculum to Nazgul, they clearly need you leading their business.
Calm down, It's just the perspective of a common spectator, one which a certain portion of people might agree with.
Did you read Hot_Bid's post ? I think it should clear up what you don't seem to understand...
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