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HaLoToss
Profile Joined February 2003
United States357 Posts
May 05 2003 07:54 GMT
#41
Someone do Nal_Ra, I Imagine it will be a pretty low number because Nal_Ra is a very efficient clicker.
B.net id = EchoOfRain One more pill to kill the pain...
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4641 Posts
May 05 2003 07:59 GMT
#42
ive done nal_ra, he is 190-200
i was surprise myself, because I saw his first person view and it wasnt looking fast. maybe the vod cool him down
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Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
May 05 2003 07:59 GMT
#43
he might use a lot of hotkeys.
LaptopLegacy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands602 Posts
May 05 2003 08:00 GMT
#44
^_^ i have around 140, 160 if i'm really trying. Too bad 1/3 of those actions are placing rally points over and over again.. (bad habit of me, gotta learn to replace those clicks with hotkey usage)
Luctor et Emergo
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4641 Posts
May 05 2003 08:04 GMT
#45
well, you see it when he use hot keys too .
Anyway i did some test.
Setting groups ctrl 12345678901234567891234567890 etc as fast as possible should get you to 900 apm.
setting group 1 to a unit, press down 1 (keyboard repeat), click move afap, got me around 400 apm.
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Hydrone
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada234 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-05 08:13:36
May 05 2003 08:08 GMT
#46
lol, i felt overwhelmed when you said that almost no toss players go above 200. And also the fact that two toss players are arrang and reach. I always used to argue that its the players fault not the race. I was so right :O. Reach won Ongamenet and Arrang is also very good, i used them for expamples to prove my point that protoss race is not *noobie* ANd they where the only ones over 200. now flame me plz~
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Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
May 05 2003 08:12 GMT
#47
AranG 301
Eji 260-273
Reach 263-272
Foru 272
Intotherain 195-201

not just 2 thx
Hydrone
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada234 Posts
May 05 2003 08:13 GMT
#48
I know, i just edited it
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ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
May 05 2003 08:13 GMT
#49
In those exhibiongames of Elky vs Beast
Elky: 200
Beast: 230
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
May 05 2003 08:28 GMT
#50
Cuz you don't click on a building 500 times in a row
Ghost Me
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
May 05 2003 08:35 GMT
#51
lets say a player does 100 vs boxer who does 250, now in a battle lets say both do the exact amount of commands, well since boxer did his 2.5x faster, he gets to go back to his base and make more tanks, and 4 scvs from his 2 cc, and build 1 more fact and send the idle scvs to mine ALL the while the other player is still doing the same commands boxer did, so boxer's econ/macro will be more efficient than the other guys, but there is also the idea that boxer gets to spend 2.5x MORE into microing than the other guy while having equal macro with the opponent, imagine that? and everything else inbetween~ okok i think thats good :o


That example doesn't work. You say the exact amount of commands. Sure thats true that if they have to do the exact same amount then boxer will win. But of course it doesn't work like that. Lets say instead that both have equal knowledge, skills etc. Now both will click on a Factory and build a tank. But instead of sitting doing nothing like the 100 click player, Boxer will click the fax 80 times or his cc 80 times or whatever. Thus having a higher act/min rate but still doing exactly the same. There is a minimum act/min level (I would say maybe around 100-120) where you can still do exactly the same as someone with a act/min level of 200+ because after the 100-120 anything else is redundant clicking and doesn't actually effect the gameplay.
Wuzzle Woozle?
iloveoo
Profile Joined April 2003
634 Posts
May 05 2003 08:38 GMT
#52
yep , knowledge is the key word ...
sometimes , good micro doesn't mean you have to make many clicks ...(exception: goon-hydra dancing)

'knowing' how to micro is more important than simply clicking fast
Unaborted babies shoot up their school, molest children, and make shitty music.
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
May 05 2003 08:39 GMT
#53
On May 05 2003 17:35 Funktion wrote:
Show nested quote +
lets say a player does 100 vs boxer who does 250, now in a battle lets say both do the exact amount of commands, well since boxer did his 2.5x faster, he gets to go back to his base and make more tanks, and 4 scvs from his 2 cc, and build 1 more fact and send the idle scvs to mine ALL the while the other player is still doing the same commands boxer did, so boxer's econ/macro will be more efficient than the other guys, but there is also the idea that boxer gets to spend 2.5x MORE into microing than the other guy while having equal macro with the opponent, imagine that? and everything else inbetween~ okok i think thats good :o


That example doesn't work. You say the exact amount of commands. Sure thats true that if they have to do the exact same amount then boxer will win. But of course it doesn't work like that. Lets say instead that both have equal knowledge, skills etc. Now both will click on a Factory and build a tank. But instead of sitting doing nothing like the 100 click player, Boxer will click the fax 80 times or his cc 80 times or whatever. Thus having a higher act/min rate but still doing exactly the same. There is a minimum act/min level (I would say maybe around 100-120) where you can still do exactly the same as someone with a act/min level of 200+ because after the 100-120 anything else is redundant clicking and doesn't actually effect the gameplay.


Yes, but above 250 it does make a difference.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Ghosts_cn
Profile Joined May 2003
China3 Posts
May 05 2003 08:48 GMT
#54
Hrmm...
[QUOTE]On May 05 2003 12:46 Pomozite wrote:
Me 60
fk.Zubo 180-210
Why am I that slow? What is wrong with me? I just checked some reps and total newbs are faster than me. [/QUOTE

Well, really sometime is just like that. but can't resisted it happening, that day might your tire.. as hell or you play too much hand's can't move that fast or! your thinking of too much strategy and combo's.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 05 2003 09:12 GMT
#55
Pomozite you're probably not using your keyboard much.
Nada and Xellos have 300++ . It means more 6 actions per second Since I think you can't make more than 90 apm with the mouse, the keyboard makes the difference in the rates.
Those who have seen the vod with the keyboard can testify, players like Xellos, Chojja or Nada are hitting their keyboard constantly, even when they have nothing to do, while most progamers have break, hitting fast, having another break, etc Their left hand are as good as Chojja's one but they don't do so many useless stuff.

PS: I'm playing protoss with an average of 115-125.
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
May 05 2003 09:19 GMT
#56
Can sb check [ooPs]Lee? He's supposed to be very slow. *g*
De omnibus dubitandum.
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
May 05 2003 09:20 GMT
#57
On May 05 2003 13:58 ImaGe wrote:
I got a rep where Nada has 375 actions/min.... :O


Think about this Logically...If Dudey Tripled his Act/Min speed....And Nada would Triple his Action per Minute Speed "In One Month"...He'd have 1000Act/Min WCG Korea GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOG

P.S. Its a Joke, but the Theory does sound impressive
Ghost Me
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-05 09:21:54
May 05 2003 09:20 GMT
#58

Yes, but above 250 it does make a difference.


How?

I said 200+ meaning anything over 200. I used 200 as an example becuase it seems to be about where slower pros start. I could of said 800+ and it would be the same.
Wuzzle Woozle?
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 05 2003 09:45 GMT
#59
so how about a top 10 fastest of each race?
from those who havent been mentioned yet niza is incredibly fast
every game >300
kos is also >250
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
ImaGe
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands233 Posts
May 05 2003 09:55 GMT
#60
Now lets see who can type the fast :p
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