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n8f8
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom222 Posts
May 05 2003 12:55 GMT
#81
MINES 60 ALSO :\ Why is it so bad tehehe :\
the only thing we can do is smile :)
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
May 05 2003 13:05 GMT
#82
Blackman from polish WCG2002 prelims has got 260-310 (average from 8-10 reps)
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EmKey
불놀이야
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 05 2003 13:07 GMT
#83
On May 05 2003 17:08 Hydrone wrote:
lol, i felt overwhelmed when you said that almost no toss players go above 200. And also the fact that two toss players are arrang and reach. I always used to argue that its the players fault not the race. I was so right :O. Reach won Ongamenet and Arrang is also very good, i used them for expamples to prove my point that protoss race is not *noobie* ANd they where the only ones over 200. now flame me plz~

GARIMTO is slow and Arang has not made it to 1 league in 3 years of pro-gaming

your logic is retarded
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(viet)TyPe_R
Profile Joined February 2003
Vietnam156 Posts
May 05 2003 13:10 GMT
#84
hm wth? how do u know how many clicks they use?? and whats the point of this?
AkA Ch33z, Cheez
Pomozite
Profile Joined October 2002
Croatia647 Posts
May 05 2003 13:18 GMT
#85
On May 05 2003 21:55 TaKnEmDwn wrote:
MINES 60 ALSO :\ Why is it so bad tehehe :\

Really? I checked many replays just to find someone slow as I am, but they are all faster. Do you have wgtour account? I would like to check some of your replays.
i used to be schizophrenic, but we re ok now
n8f8
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom222 Posts
May 05 2003 13:18 GMT
#86
Reach is garimto? :o
the only thing we can do is smile :)
Winter
Profile Joined March 2003
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-05 13:26:28
May 05 2003 13:22 GMT
#87
I'm around 170 with most of my games, can only get above 200 when I specifically try to get APM up.

I'd say past 200 APM the difference is very small (ie a 200 APM vs a 350 APM would still come mostly down to knowlege and tactics, however a 200 APM vs a 100 APM the 200 will almost always win), but obviously you'd want higher APM during natural play. Even if the edge is smaller past 200, it's still an edge.

Those are just my estimations for human players though. I do believe an expertly programmed computer AI could easily defeat any progamer with as low as 120 APM, but a human would never be able to practice himself to being THAT efficient.

Edit: Major exception would be for Human Protoss players, they can beat 200+ APM Terran/Zerg/OtherProtoss just as easily as they could at 200+ APM, and I can't understand why. Protoss is a screwy race.

And obviously a newbie clicking stuff randomly and mashing hotkeys to get above 200 wouldn't be able to beat a seasoned 100 APM player. All these examples are assuming both players know the game very well and practice it often with good players.
Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
May 05 2003 13:23 GMT
#88
Protoss is a race that needs less clicks;o
But again speed doesnt matter
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
Daishi
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom106 Posts
May 05 2003 13:29 GMT
#89
I don't like to sound too much like a newbie, but how do you tell?
ABOYNE (vb.) To beat an expert at a game of skill by playing so appallingly that none of his clever tactics or strategies are of any use to him.- Douglas Adams
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
May 05 2003 13:32 GMT
#90
i click around 100 - 140 and i'm quite comfortable with that since i use hot keys..
i guess speed doesn't eqal to skill..but if there's a way that they can check the /min click speed within a time range of a rep..i think it'd be a much better indicator to the clicking skill lvl thingy..since..as most of u have already said, kor pros click useless bulidings in the begining all the time or being lazy at the end of the game...if u can just check the click speed of hte time when he's microing....
Nemesis has left the building~
ObiwanNugobi
Profile Joined April 2003
44 Posts
May 05 2003 13:32 GMT
#91
Tsu with 90!!! omfg... u sure.I mean this guy looks likes he can control every single zergling.
Wc3Quote:Lemme get that expand so we can get the game going
Daishi
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom106 Posts
May 05 2003 13:36 GMT
#92
Ok, I am dumb, found it.
ABOYNE (vb.) To beat an expert at a game of skill by playing so appallingly that none of his clever tactics or strategies are of any use to him.- Douglas Adams
xaryc
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2 Posts
May 05 2003 13:41 GMT
#93
how u guys calculate this?
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4615 Posts
May 05 2003 13:50 GMT
#94
stop saying its click, or it count every keyboard press.
Its just the amount of action.
Actions are Move, Attack, Patrol, Left game, Set group to number, Select Unit, Build..
No matter how you do them, if you move with right button, its 1 click, but if you press M and then click that makes more physical action.
Just wanted to make clear for some guys.
And again those are numbers and you can make them tell anything you like..
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Liquid`Crystal
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada398 Posts
May 05 2003 15:06 GMT
#95
i click 100 to 115 in my most recent games... last 3 months

I average 110 the most.
andy rocks
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
May 05 2003 15:07 GMT
#96
can someone test themarine xellos iloveoov tobecontinued. and ogogo
Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
May 05 2003 15:36 GMT
#97


daaman high 270, average as t in caring games = 200/230
v-gundam ~300
)na(pro ~300
sonjjang ~250
themarine ~300

^^
Comfortably Numb
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
May 05 2003 15:42 GMT
#98
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DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
May 05 2003 15:45 GMT
#99
Actually the gundam one is accurate. I was checking some of his reps the other day.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 05 2003 15:50 GMT
#100
Mines like 140 average...
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