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Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
July 23 2012 20:06 GMT
#401
On July 23 2012 10:48 Clefairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 10:46 Sadistx wrote:
Noooooooooo

We'll forever remember you ace. Every single player. You were the amazing underdogs. The old guard.

Also,
However the rise of smartphones and social network services has caused progaming to decline.
.

What the fuck? Smartphones caused progaming to decline?

According to game "journalists" the Apple dystopia will kill consoles, handhelds and PC gaming.

Fixed.

I really hope that this is not the beginning of a trend for other BW teams to pull out of the running. I don't see why other sponsors would pull funding because SC2 is simply another great avenue for advertising for them.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 20:12:57
July 23 2012 20:11 GMT
#402
On July 24 2012 05:02 _Animus_ wrote:
That home gaming division is an real issue, i remember going to pc clubs when BW was popular in my country it was so great experience that i cant compare to playing alone in my room, im sure every person experienced that can understand me. Also sometimes i feel this community so friendly that i want to hug everybody lol and only dream what can be if we was able to gather together to watch events and have BW fun :D Unfortunatelly im not living in Korea nor USA.
So playing/watching home kills the thrill in many cases plus everybody can behave like ass on the internet no problem.

well, it was fund memories except that I went to a pcbang recently after returning to Taiwan (It was extremely popular during my childhood). Smokes everywhere, gang members around the corner with tattoos, everything smells like cig or instant noodles, and ridiculously (relatively) hourly cost. It is no wonder pcbang have been in such heavy decline in Taiwan now that personal computers and internet access is extremely affordable. Would never visit another one again

I personally think pcbang in Korea would probably have been in a much steeper decline if not for all their businesses being partially funded by the government
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 23 2012 20:14 GMT
#403
RIP.
Best of luck to all.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 23 2012 20:28 GMT
#404
Bye Ace.
I don't watch sc2 so this is ok for me, becouse bw is dying so progaming should go with it.
Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
July 23 2012 20:31 GMT
#405
I don't quite understand the PCBang decline as a factor into ACE in general.

Isn't it still true that SC2 gamers are going to have to join the air force? Won't the Air Force still get whatever propmotional benefits they had been getting by having an SC2 team? Well sucks for Kespa.
Bow before the Dongjwa.
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
July 23 2012 20:45 GMT
#406
So much is changing...
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
July 23 2012 20:45 GMT
#407
damn shame, even if they had a kespa sc2 team it wouldve been nice
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
July 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#408
A great loss to the scene, such a shame, but who knows, maybe the scene grows to a sufficient degree for them to form another military progamer team. Theres always hope.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 20:50:35
July 23 2012 20:49 GMT
#409
On July 24 2012 05:31 Deletrious wrote:
I don't quite understand the PCBang decline as a factor into ACE in general.

Isn't it still true that SC2 gamers are going to have to join the air force? Won't the Air Force still get whatever propmotional benefits they had been getting by having an SC2 team? Well sucks for Kespa.


From what I understood, Ace objective was to make the army "get in touch" with the youngsters. BW was a huge boom and every kid was playing it, so the military thought that creating a military team would improve the youngsters view on the military service.

However, with the decline of BW and its eventual replacement with the very unpopular SC2, Ace has not the foundations to continue with the team.

But my personal guess is that Ace is too honorable to switch to a game that was forced down into the scene. Respect!
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#410
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:07 MadNeSs wrote:
On July 24 2012 00:59 Prophanity wrote:
On July 23 2012 22:35 BadAim wrote:
Truly sad news. Every day I pray for sc2 to catch on like bw did...


It has to some extent and will continue to do so. More people watch SC2 than they ever did Brood War. Merely a transition, yet just as new people come in during a time of growth so too do others leave.


You are so wrong, more people watched bw than sc2 has ever had. Tt was on tv afterall, sc2 in still only online. I dont know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure that more people wactched bw than sc2. I mean just look at the stadiums where they played sometimes up to 30k ppl attenden - How many people do you see attend a sc2? Not nearly half as much as that, I can assure you that.


In ONE country, it was very popular.

SC2 is very, very popular WORLDWIDE.

People packing a convention center isn't really a valid argument. It only shows local support. SC2 has people packing convention halls in every country where there even IS an event.

Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?

I'm gonna throw up now
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 23 2012 20:55 GMT
#411
On July 24 2012 04:44 CreeDo wrote:
That being said, Starcraft 2 has created a scene that would not have been possible with Brood War--the technicalities that made Brood War a beautiful, difficult, and exceptionally wonderful game for us to watch made it almost impossible for the mainstream gamer to get into. Yes, the game became easier, but now it is a worldwide phenomenon.

it is not SC2 that created something, but the money that being pumped into it since its arrival.
Numerous championships, good price pools, young naive fanboys brought up on CoD sequels.
All sums up...
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
July 23 2012 20:56 GMT
#412
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?


That sounds like a Justin Bieber Fan bragging with Twitter Followers and argueing that the kid is the best musician of all time.
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 20:59:16
July 23 2012 20:58 GMT
#413
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:07 MadNeSs wrote:
On July 24 2012 00:59 Prophanity wrote:
On July 23 2012 22:35 BadAim wrote:
Truly sad news. Every day I pray for sc2 to catch on like bw did...


It has to some extent and will continue to do so. More people watch SC2 than they ever did Brood War. Merely a transition, yet just as new people come in during a time of growth so too do others leave.


You are so wrong, more people watched bw than sc2 has ever had. Tt was on tv afterall, sc2 in still only online. I dont know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure that more people wactched bw than sc2. I mean just look at the stadiums where they played sometimes up to 30k ppl attenden - How many people do you see attend a sc2? Not nearly half as much as that, I can assure you that.


In ONE country, it was very popular.

SC2 is very, very popular WORLDWIDE.

People packing a convention center isn't really a valid argument. It only shows local support. SC2 has people packing convention halls in every country where there even IS an event.

Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?

You're being a dick. You know nothing.
EleGant[AoV]
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
July 23 2012 21:00 GMT
#414
On July 24 2012 05:56 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?


That sounds like a Justin Bieber Fan bragging with Twitter Followers and argueing that the kid is the best musician of all time.


But that's exactly what these SC2 newbies are. They're essentially arguing that if Justin Bieber is better than The Beatles.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 23 2012 21:00 GMT
#415
That sucks, they aren't gonna pick up and go to SC 2. I wonder if we will ever see something like this team as esports grows?
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 21:04:03
July 23 2012 21:03 GMT
#416
On July 24 2012 05:55 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 04:44 CreeDo wrote:
That being said, Starcraft 2 has created a scene that would not have been possible with Brood War--the technicalities that made Brood War a beautiful, difficult, and exceptionally wonderful game for us to watch made it almost impossible for the mainstream gamer to get into. Yes, the game became easier, but now it is a worldwide phenomenon.

it is not SC2 that created something, but the money that being pumped into it since its arrival.
Numerous championships, good price pools, young naive fanboys brought up on CoD sequels.
All sums up...


all the money pumping into wc3 didn't do shit, what you describe is essentially the underlying assumption of the "bubble" argument. Those never cease to amuse me, and sc2 will most likely only further grow with HOTS releases
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 23 2012 21:05 GMT
#417
On July 24 2012 05:58 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On July 24 2012 01:07 MadNeSs wrote:
On July 24 2012 00:59 Prophanity wrote:
On July 23 2012 22:35 BadAim wrote:
Truly sad news. Every day I pray for sc2 to catch on like bw did...


It has to some extent and will continue to do so. More people watch SC2 than they ever did Brood War. Merely a transition, yet just as new people come in during a time of growth so too do others leave.


You are so wrong, more people watched bw than sc2 has ever had. Tt was on tv afterall, sc2 in still only online. I dont know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure that more people wactched bw than sc2. I mean just look at the stadiums where they played sometimes up to 30k ppl attenden - How many people do you see attend a sc2? Not nearly half as much as that, I can assure you that.


In ONE country, it was very popular.

SC2 is very, very popular WORLDWIDE.

People packing a convention center isn't really a valid argument. It only shows local support. SC2 has people packing convention halls in every country where there even IS an event.

Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?

You're being a dick. You know nothing.


Irony. The writing is on the wall, whether you want to take notice or not.


User was temp banned for this post.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2723 Posts
July 23 2012 21:07 GMT
#418
On July 24 2012 03:36 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:07 MadNeSs wrote:
On July 24 2012 00:59 Prophanity wrote:
On July 23 2012 22:35 BadAim wrote:
Truly sad news. Every day I pray for sc2 to catch on like bw did...


It has to some extent and will continue to do so. More people watch SC2 than they ever did Brood War. Merely a transition, yet just as new people come in during a time of growth so too do others leave.


You are so wrong, more people watched bw than sc2 has ever had. Tt was on tv afterall, sc2 in still only online. I dont know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure that more people wactched bw than sc2. I mean just look at the stadiums where they played sometimes up to 30k ppl attenden - How many people do you see attend a sc2? Not nearly half as much as that, I can assure you that.


In ONE country, it was very popular.

SC2 is very, very popular WORLDWIDE.

People packing a convention center isn't really a valid argument. It only shows local support. SC2 has people packing convention halls in every country where there even IS an event.

Also, how many Broodwar Barcrafts were there?


So ignorant lol. BW in good times had more viewers and live spectators than SC2 has now globally. Only one OSL or PL final could have like 10 times more tv viewers and spectators that any MLG today.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 23 2012 21:07 GMT
#419
this was bound to happen sooner or later... I doubt the Korean Air Force has the resources necessary to spend on upgrading equipment plus new coaching for SC2 like the other privately-owned teams in order to compete in a not very popular game in Korea.

This means there will only be 7 teams for the next proleague (if there is one, at this point will there even be a sponsor for 2013?), so perhaps it's time to find a way to meld with the GSTL teams?
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
July 23 2012 21:08 GMT
#420
Oh noes!!!
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