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CerealKiller.495
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
June 13 2012 14:19 GMT
#1
Hi.

I installed BW a couple days ago and have been playing on iCCup. Unfortunately, it's difficult to find games with other people.

I read that servers such as Brainclan and Fish are much more active. I know that these servers have much better players than iccup, but I also read they have a good amount of people who are bad.

It's hard for me to know my actual skill level at the moment because I haven't found many games. I don't see myself being better than D+ on iccup.

I'd like to play more games. Which server is the most active at the moment with the greatest variation in skill level? Language barrier doesn't matter to me- I'll just learn basic Korean if need be.

Thanks!
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
June 13 2012 14:25 GMT
#2
Fish has far more people and its easy to find lower level games at any time of the day. If you're D+, I'd recommend sticking to hosting melee games instead of ladder. Ladder pretty much requires around a C/C+ just to not fall into failure range and then its hard to find games on ladder. Melee users are usually around the D/D+/C- range.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
June 13 2012 14:52 GMT
#3
On June 13 2012 23:25 sCCrooked wrote:
Fish has far more people and its easy to find lower level games at any time of the day. If you're D+, I'd recommend sticking to hosting melee games instead of ladder. Ladder pretty much requires around a C/C+ just to not fall into failure range and then its hard to find games on ladder. Melee users are usually around the D/D+/C- range.


QFT.

Look up the guide on how to connect to the korean gateways and get going. You'll need 30 melee games before you can ladder on fish if you want to try it.
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
June 13 2012 15:49 GMT
#4
Here's the link to 1a2a3a's and my guide for how to connect and set up Brainclan and Fish server for your gateway connections

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195442
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
June 13 2012 16:00 GMT
#5
Fish. Ladder requires like a C rank to play, sometimes a C-. Mellee games as mentioned above has a lower ranking of about D/D+. But they'll know builds and stuff so don't expect easy wins.

ICCup is practically dead nowadays, and you'll only really find UMS games now :/
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 13 2012 16:15 GMT
#6
I seem to find games quite easily on ICCUP whenever I log on, granted I don't play very much
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GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
June 13 2012 16:17 GMT
#7
I've been trying to do a write up, but it's far from being finished, maybe it helps

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:Gecko(Xp)/SandboxPortal/Gateways
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radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
June 13 2012 20:39 GMT
#8
Iccup is far from dead. Cheers!
Flash returns...
BuffnuggleR
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
June 13 2012 20:48 GMT
#9
i host on iccup, hit me up at buffnuggler
they call me buff
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 20:59:50
June 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#10
If someone made a "hands on" map pack that would be the same map files that people most commonly use on fish, that would be great(so as to not get kicked instantly when joining games)
And perhaps after that - a full instantly playable fish starcraft client, kind of like the iccup one, that could be spread around on message boards as propaganda to gather more players.
On June 14 2012 05:39 radadaundandan wrote:
Iccup is far from dead. Cheers!

not very far..
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
June 13 2012 21:01 GMT
#11
are you having problems to play in iccup? can you host a game or just join? if you can create a game you should find a game before 1-3min, iccup it's not that dead
protoss living in da ghetto
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 13 2012 21:15 GMT
#12
As others have mentioned, if you have your ports forwarded and can host on iCCup, at the D levels you'll have someone join in at most a few minutes. When I was watching my friend Nagisama practice, people would be joining his games within 10 seconds.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
June 13 2012 21:46 GMT
#13
Yeah I've never had any problems getting a game on iCCup, although I generally host rather than join other people's games.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
June 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#14
Iccup you never have a problem trying to find D/D+/C- level games during the day on weekends, don't know about weekdays or nights. Fish is the best place to get into SC:BW. Like everyone said, melee is where the D level is at, C is where ladder actually starts.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
olabaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States298 Posts
June 14 2012 01:03 GMT
#15
On June 14 2012 05:57 brolaf wrote:
If someone made a "hands on" map pack that would be the same map files that people most commonly use on fish, that would be great(so as to not get kicked instantly when joining games)
And perhaps after that - a full instantly playable fish starcraft client, kind of like the iccup one, that could be spread around on message boards as propaganda to gather more players.
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 05:39 radadaundandan wrote:
Iccup is far from dead. Cheers!

not very far..

There are several posts on TL that link to the maps used by Fish players and you can get the official maps from here
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 14 2012 01:17 GMT
#16
It's easy to find games at D level on iCCup, and after you make your way up to C/-C, then you can consider Fish. There are definitely more players there, but the learning curve is even steeper than iCCup.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
June 14 2012 02:29 GMT
#17
On June 14 2012 06:46 Birdie wrote:
Yeah I've never had any problems getting a game on iCCup, although I generally host rather than join other people's games.


Agreed. If you can host, most people join within a couple of seconds. Though I guess it depends on the time of day...
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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia935 Posts
June 14 2012 02:45 GMT
#18
I've never not had any problems getting a game on iCCup...and I can host. It can easily take 20+ minutes if you're not at D'ish levels.
Post C most games are found through channel messages, and if you have a good record a lot of people dodge, too.
Finally, if you lag with koreans and chinese, you're pretty much screwed at B'ish ranks, playing same people over and over.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 14 2012 03:13 GMT
#19
Fish server is the only server, if you're a noob just play about 350 melee games before trying to ladder. Then after you start laddering, ask for aid and watch all your replays to see what they are doing vs what you are.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
eeniebear
Profile Joined February 2010
United States197 Posts
June 14 2012 04:54 GMT
#20
On June 13 2012 23:19 CerealKiller.495 wrote:
Hi.

I installed BW a couple days ago and have been playing on iCCup. Unfortunately, it's difficult to find games with other people.

I read that servers such as Brainclan and Fish are much more active. I know that these servers have much better players than iccup, but I also read they have a good amount of people who are bad.

It's hard for me to know my actual skill level at the moment because I haven't found many games. I don't see myself being better than D+ on iccup.

I'd like to play more games. Which server is the most active at the moment with the greatest variation in skill level? Language barrier doesn't matter to me- I'll just learn basic Korean if need be.

Thanks!


If you only started playing BW a couple days ago, then D+ is almost certainly not going to happen. If you're just starting, expect D-/E. Unless you play Protoss. You could get B- then.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
June 14 2012 05:11 GMT
#21
Fish is generally C rank. I have no problems getting games on iccup.

Is channel op teamliquid dead?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 14 2012 06:03 GMT
#22
On June 14 2012 05:39 radadaundandan wrote:
Iccup is far from dead. Cheers!


Since the SC2 pro switch I can't even get people to join my games T_T
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
CerealKiller.495
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 08:55:44
June 14 2012 08:53 GMT
#23
I'm having an issue with typing korean in BW. I'm able to type korean in SC2 but not BW. I've adjusted my regions settings and keyboards settings but it's still a no-go. Anyone have a guide for this or any information to give me?

Usually in the chat channels the korean looks normal but once someone types korean in a game lobby or during the game it doesn't look like korean but rather machine code or some crap. Any fixes for that?

Also, when I /stats someone on Fish I get a lot of information. Is the format for /stats on the server:
[melee record]
[ladder record]

And I'm definitely not E or D-. My macro is bad, but it's not that bad (I'm sure if I didn't play SC2 I would be E rank).

I also have a general question about how these ranking systems work. I'm guessing the only type of games that count for a melee record are the ones created with the "melee" game type and the ladder matches are "one on one". Is that right? If it is, then if I made a game with "use default map settings" would that just count as unranked practice?

Thanks a bunch!
)Messer(
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland95 Posts
June 14 2012 09:23 GMT
#24
for XP system: regional/language settings->advanced->not Unicode: Korean. You'll be able to write and see korean everywhere.

/s or /stats displays: melee(never resetted)/1v1 ladder (reset every 3 months)/2v2 ladder (same as 1v1). People don't care about melee stats in ladder games. You can play 1v1 ladder only in 'One on One', and only after playing at least 30 melee games. I don't know about ums but melee works for sure.
thx bye
CerealKiller.495
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 09:58:48
June 14 2012 09:57 GMT
#25
On June 14 2012 18:23 )Messer( wrote:
for XP system: regional/language settings->advanced->not Unicode: Korean. You'll be able to write and see korean everywhere.

/s or /stats displays: melee(never resetted)/1v1 ladder (reset every 3 months)/2v2 ladder (same as 1v1). People don't care about melee stats in ladder games. You can play 1v1 ladder only in 'One on One', and only after playing at least 30 melee games. I don't know about ums but melee works for sure.


I'm on Windows 7 and I'm looking at my Region and Language settings right now. I'm in the administrative tab, and in there is a setting called "Language for non-Unicode programs" which is currently set to "Korean (Korea)". I'm assuming that's what you're talking about? Again, I can see the Korean in *only* some places, otherwise it looks completely messed up. I can also type Korean in SC2 and on my browser just fine. ㄴㄴㅇㅁㅊㅋㄹ로쟈 호ㅕ냘나ㅜㄹ 크췆ㄴ오려 lol see? But for whatever reason it won't work in SC BW.

Thanks for the swift reply.
)Messer(
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland95 Posts
June 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#26
i don't know anything about win7, in win xp it works well. i can see and write korean everywhere in sc.
thx bye
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