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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 07 2012 02:09 GMT
#341
On June 07 2012 08:19 Lightwip wrote:
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It felt like terran tears ran sweeter when slayed at the hands of zerg or protoss.

That, I can completely agree on. TvT is like fighting imba with imba.


>2012
>thinks terran is imba

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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 02:29:28
June 07 2012 02:26 GMT
#342
nvm didn't want to give a fuck
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 02:30:10
June 07 2012 02:26 GMT
#343
who would watch sports if sports were as easy to learn as a moba and an -almost tool-assisted- rts like sc2?


I dislike this 'tool-assisted' argument. Do we really wanna go back to playing Dune II? (Wings of Broodwar: Battle for Arrakis)

Games like these are popular is because they are 'easy-to-learn, hard-to-master'. If you do not believe SC2 is hard to master, why do you think we are always seeing the same couple of names at the top-tier which the mid-tier pros struggle to break into?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 03:00:21
June 07 2012 02:58 GMT
#344
On June 07 2012 08:19 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
It felt like terran tears ran sweeter when slayed at the hands of zerg or protoss.

That, I can completely agree on. TvT is like fighting imba with imba.


I thought that was PvP, where they just throw imbalanced units at each other
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 07 2012 04:40 GMT
#345
On June 07 2012 11:58 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 08:19 Lightwip wrote:
It felt like terran tears ran sweeter when slayed at the hands of zerg or protoss.

That, I can completely agree on. TvT is like fighting imba with imba.


I thought that was PvP, where they just throw imbalanced units at each other


Isn't that how BW works, with everything being overpowered?
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
June 07 2012 04:43 GMT
#346
Great article, but I feel he's ignorant and biased when it comes to the eSports scene. He has a very Asian way of thinking (ofc he's Korean... And not to say I don't love Asians ;D) which is closed off and without much integration.
SC2 didn't take off in Korea because Korea didn't want it to take off. Just like the Chinese wc3 scene ruled the world while Korea's BW scene dominated. That doesn't give China a right to say that BW is boring, and vice versa.
SC2 was and is more popular in the foreign scene, and Korea is no longer dominant because the Koreans did not transfer infrastructure. Simply put, they didn't learn from their BW days much, and so they kinda had to start fresh with the new scene.

Once Korean companies join in, Korea will have a lot of SC2 revenue, but if Korea decides the game is not for them, then that's their decision and the rest of the world will take all the Korean pro gamers.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 04:44:22
June 07 2012 04:43 GMT
#347
On June 07 2012 11:58 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 08:19 Lightwip wrote:
It felt like terran tears ran sweeter when slayed at the hands of zerg or protoss.

That, I can completely agree on. TvT is like fighting imba with imba.


I thought that was PvP, where they just throw imbalanced units at each other

Pretty sure Idra's experiences as a Z have long since changed his opinion about which race does that.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
June 07 2012 04:51 GMT
#348
On June 07 2012 08:19 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
It felt like terran tears ran sweeter when slayed at the hands of zerg or protoss.

That, I can completely agree on. TvT is like fighting imba with imba.


oh you...:/
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