• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:30
CET 14:30
KST 22:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion SCHNAIL now supports Remastered [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 Star Con San Diego 2026 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread R I P Patrick Stewart Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8984 users

Map: (6)Ascend

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 23:02:31
May 03 2012 05:46 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Surprisingly, this isn't a CardinalAllin map lol. I've actually made several team maps in the past for LAN games with friends, but this is the first one that's decent enough to publish in my opinion.

The main idea/theme for this map was keeping control of the central ascending high ground areas, similar to maps such as Blue Storm and Match Point. The map is very macro-heavy for a team map - there are 12 gas expansions and 8 min only expansions (not including mains). To compensate, resources are slightly reduced - each main has 8 mineral patches and each gas expansion, including naturals, has 6.

UMS mode must be selected to enable shared bases.

Download (Version 1.1 - broodwarmaps.net)

Previous Versions:
Version 1.0
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Changes:
Version 1.1:
-Increased size of mains (shifted some other terrain around to accommodate this)
-Removed min only bases in naturals (should also make more room for production facilities there)
vibeo gane,
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 03 2012 05:55 GMT
#2
Beautiful map. Its honestly been years since ive played a game with teams bigger than 2 players, so i cant say anything about how it would balance, but I really like the detail you've put into it.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Taranok
Profile Joined September 2009
United States33 Posts
May 03 2012 08:06 GMT
#3
looks great!

the main bases seem a little close together, though.
Have no fear, the land is near
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 03 2012 08:18 GMT
#4
It needs more place in the main. How can a non-zerg build in the middle of two zerg allies spreading their disgusting creep ?
ॐ
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 03 2012 11:05 GMT
#5
On May 03 2012 17:18 endy wrote:
It needs more place in the main. How can a non-zerg build in the middle of two zerg allies spreading their disgusting creep ?

Double five-pool w/ sunken rush & proxy everything.
May the BeSt man win.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
May 03 2012 11:11 GMT
#6
I prefer Hunters like random spawn points, i dont get what is good taking over Sc2's "team spawn together" style
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
May 03 2012 11:20 GMT
#7
Great map!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
May 03 2012 11:23 GMT
#8
I am checking broodwarmaps.net everyday to see if there's a new cool uploaded map and this one is a good catch hehe. Congrats to the mapmaker!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
May 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#9
Cool! Im going to give this a test run now on ICCup, looking forward to it. My username is the same on ICCup btw.

@Darksoldierr,
+ Show Spoiler +
The reason I personally like fixed spawns is for balance. You dont have to necessarily share a main and you dont have to even be on the same side of the map, but what is important is that it is fair for both teams, and obviously random spawns goes against that.
Its exactly the same in 1v1 though. 2 player maps are the best, 4 player mirrored maps come 2nd best, 4 player rotational maps are significantly worse and 3 player rotational maps are a bit worse again. They have inbuilt imbalance depending on spawns.

Personally I prefer fixed spawns but I also like random spawns aswell occasionally. You might be interested in these maps:

Twin Headed Snake
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3767
Jaguar
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3569
Thermopylae
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3489
AntiHunters
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3385
Sanctuaries
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=2463
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 03 2012 21:12 GMT
#10
Not bad at all, I like it.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#11
On May 03 2012 17:18 endy wrote:
It needs more place in the main. How can a non-zerg build in the middle of two zerg allies spreading their disgusting creep ?

Its kind of a push map.. the discusting slime wont be a problem anyway, instead the poor little dogs and hydras will need to worry about gas fumes and gunpowder clouds covering the air as the debris fails to settle from the endless tank slugging.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 03 2012 22:49 GMT
#12
On May 03 2012 20:11 Darksoldierr wrote:
I prefer Hunters like random spawn points, i dont get what is good taking over Sc2's "team spawn together" style

far less punishing on noobs making crap builds. if you fuck up - your teammates are automatically there to hold your hand so it is far less anxious for noobs to play
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10589 Posts
May 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#13
pretty good map, but i agree with the middle non-zerg with 2 zerg teammates. maybe build everything at the nat? xD
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 04 2012 08:45 GMT
#14
On May 04 2012 08:04 FlaShFTW wrote:
pretty good map, but i agree with the middle non-zerg with 2 zerg teammates. maybe build everything at the nat? xD

what if they 12 hatch
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
May 04 2012 15:02 GMT
#15
On May 04 2012 06:06 CardinalAllin wrote:
Cool! Im going to give this a test run now on ICCup, looking forward to it. My username is the same on ICCup btw.

@Darksoldierr,
+ Show Spoiler +
The reason I personally like fixed spawns is for balance. You dont have to necessarily share a main and you dont have to even be on the same side of the map, but what is important is that it is fair for both teams, and obviously random spawns goes against that.
Its exactly the same in 1v1 though. 2 player maps are the best, 4 player mirrored maps come 2nd best, 4 player rotational maps are significantly worse and 3 player rotational maps are a bit worse again. They have inbuilt imbalance depending on spawns.

Personally I prefer fixed spawns but I also like random spawns aswell occasionally. You might be interested in these maps:

Twin Headed Snake
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3767
Jaguar
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3569
Thermopylae
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3489
AntiHunters
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=3385
Sanctuaries
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=2463


Awesome looking maps. Has anyone thought about organizing some sort of 3v3/4v4 night where we can gives these maps a run?
Hello World!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
May 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#16
this looks really interesting, i may even want to play on iccup with this map :o
POGGERS
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
May 07 2012 02:45 GMT
#17
On May 03 2012 20:11 Darksoldierr wrote:
I prefer Hunters like random spawn points, i dont get what is good taking over Sc2's "team spawn together" style


This was in way before SC2 ever came out. Take a look at one of your 2 [Allied] Folders of blizzard maps and you'll see in the descriptions is "UMS" for teams to spawn together....
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
May 09 2012 22:48 GMT
#18
Updated to version 1.1, download is available. I still have the old version, so if you don't like it I can revert the uploaded version back to the original.

Changes:
-Increased size of mains (shifted some other terrain around to accommodate this)
-Removed min only bases in naturals (should also make more room for production facilities there)
vibeo gane,
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10589 Posts
May 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#19
On May 04 2012 17:45 storkfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 08:04 FlaShFTW wrote:
pretty good map, but i agree with the middle non-zerg with 2 zerg teammates. maybe build everything at the nat? xD

what if they 12 hatch

proxy everything
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
22:00
Epic.LAN 49 Group Stage
Liquipedia
GSL
21:00
GSL CK 6
IntoTheiNu 871
SHIN 116
CranKy Ducklings SOOP73
Maru 66
Zoun (SOOP) 53
herO (SOOP) 39
Solar (SOOP)39
ByuN (SOOP) 26
Rogue 25
Rex23
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko470
LamboSC2 116
SHIN 116
Maru 66
Zoun (SOOP) 53
herO (SOOP) 39
Solar (SOOP) 39
ByuN (SOOP) 26
Rogue 25
Rex 23
MaxPax 19
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 3729
Jaedong 1491
Horang2 928
EffOrt 477
BeSt 476
Light 446
Soma 422
FanTaSy 313
actioN 267
Snow 240
[ Show more ]
Mini 230
ggaemo 146
ZerO 136
Rush 134
Mind 120
hero 76
Hyun 69
Barracks 60
Yoon 59
Mong 48
Classic 43
ToSsGirL 39
HiyA 33
Aegong 30
sSak 26
910 25
Free 24
Shinee 23
Terrorterran 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
JYJ 17
Bishop 16
Sharp 15
Shine 14
Noble 13
soO 12
zelot 11
Rock 9
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Gorgc21213
Fuzer 135
syndereN57
League of Legends
Reynor67
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1527
kRYSTAL_72
Other Games
singsing1411
B2W.Neo1071
hiko740
crisheroes288
Mlord253
DeMusliM191
ArmadaUGS120
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL35928
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 30m
OSC
8h 30m
Replay Cast
9h 30m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 30m
WardiTV Invitational
22h 30m
Epic.LAN
23h 30m
IPSL
1d 2h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 4h
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Ultimate Battle
2 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.