On March 24 2012 03:07 howLiN wrote: [quote] That's really unnecessary... If anything SC2 is bringing a new level of progaming outside Korea.
lol
"level"
"progaming"
i really don't think so...if anything the levels are way significantly worse.
That's irrelevant if there literally wasn't any level of progaming outside of Korea at all before SC2. And programing implies to make a living playing a game competitively (regardless of skill), so I don't know what the quotation marks are for other than to be condescendant.
I used quotes because it's not really progaming and the level of players at the moment is not impressive whatsoever. Feels so artificial.
It really is progaming, there are paychecks and stuff. Maybe it feels artificial because you choose to hate the game but again, that's irrelevant to the legitimacy of its professional scene. Things are what they are.
You do know barely any foreign team pays their player salarys right? Otherwise I would not call it progaming because they are not earning any income to support themselves
That's why I said "is bringing a new level of progaming" as in "is starting to bring", instead of "brought":
What makes you think foreigners will start to earn salarys? At this pace, foreigners will disappear slowly as BW players switch to SC2
There is a competitive structure in the west that didn't exist in BW. I think that may have the ability to fuel a sustainable progaming scene, because that structure is starting to be able to monetize themselves in a way that may allow for a better chance of turning profits for the players, and in turn making the teams sustainable.
I hope this was a joke. What competitive scene in the west?
Maybe he is referring to the cs 1.6 scene back than when it was popular ?
Independent of how stupid the idea originally is, how would kespa even implement it? Kespa has been acting as a very over-the-top officially regulated entity (controlling things like free agency, trading, etc) and only licensed progamers can participate.
None of the sc2 teams have any of such licensing or (Kespa) officialness about them. Even sc2 koreans are team hopping nowadays (relatively) freely.
How do they determine which korean sc2 teams can go into the proleague (assuming sc1 teams are all going to be active?). They're not just going to throw in 8 or so unlicensed sc2 teams into the 8 already licensed officially recognised sc1 teams to make some big ass 16 team proleague. The sc2 teams probably won't submit to the same strict standards under Kespa just to play 1/2 of the time.
makes no sense from viewer standpoint or from any official Kespa relations.
bw fanboys are too sensitive :D (i used to be one before i played sc2) you are presented with option which make your//ours? game survive and still you flame it for being stupid... with such attitude that game wont last long...
On March 24 2012 03:10 SlowBullets wrote: [quote] lol
"level"
"progaming"
i really don't think so...if anything the levels are way significantly worse.
That's irrelevant if there literally wasn't any level of progaming outside of Korea at all before SC2. And programing implies to make a living playing a game competitively (regardless of skill), so I don't know what the quotation marks are for other than to be condescendant.
I used quotes because it's not really progaming and the level of players at the moment is not impressive whatsoever. Feels so artificial.
It really is progaming, there are paychecks and stuff. Maybe it feels artificial because you choose to hate the game but again, that's irrelevant to the legitimacy of its professional scene. Things are what they are.
You do know barely any foreign team pays their player salarys right? Otherwise I would not call it progaming because they are not earning any income to support themselves
That's why I said "is bringing a new level of progaming" as in "is starting to bring", instead of "brought":
What makes you think foreigners will start to earn salarys? At this pace, foreigners will disappear slowly as BW players switch to SC2
There is a competitive structure in the west that didn't exist in BW. I think that may have the ability to fuel a sustainable progaming scene, because that structure is starting to be able to monetize themselves in a way that may allow for a better chance of turning profits for the players, and in turn making the teams sustainable.
I hope this was a joke. What competitive scene in the west?
Maybe he is referring to the cs 1.6 scene back than when it was popular ?
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
All your posts have been trolling BW threads, why have you not been banned yet?
I am not even close to trolling with my current post, so that is a pretty irrelevant point. I used to troll simply because it seems that alot of Broodwar fanboys are so ridiculously biased that they would make any QQ regular on the Starcraft 2 forums pale in comparison.
But after having a few in depth conversations with some intelligent Broodwar fans it really just seems to follow the mantra of a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.
In any case, stop trolling me, if you dont have anything productive to say then gtfo please.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don't take this troll too seriously.
Have a great day.
I agree folks, dont take the guy thats attempting to be unbiased about things opinion over the people that just say, "trolololollol lmfao" because, well that would just be foolish.
Obviously the intelligence factor speaks for itself concerning that one.
Thanks man, I am actually having a nice day :D
Unbiased over opinion you say?...that's funny
You say BW is an eyesore but sc2 is not...well guess what? That's a fucking opinion. Personally I think sc2 is a huge eye sore with its god awful units and mechanics. Doesn't make it a fact though. But it also means your statements arent facts, but in fact opinions. Terrible post
On March 24 2012 03:41 NoDDiE wrote: bw fanboys are too sensitive :D (i used to be one before i played sc2) you are presented with option which make your//ours? game survive and still you flame it for being stupid... with such attitude that game wont last long...
The worst part is that I regularly watch and enjoy BW games, yet if I say anything even REMOTELY SEMI in the defense of SC2, I am an uninformed troll that has no clue what "they" worked for.
That actually sounds really awesome to me. I'd watch the shit out of this if this happens. I wonder how the teams are going to work, will the BW teams and SC2 teams combine somehow?
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
All your posts have been trolling BW threads, why have you not been banned yet?
I am not even close to trolling with my current post, so that is a pretty irrelevant point. I used to troll simply because it seems that alot of Broodwar fanboys are so ridiculously biased that they would make any QQ regular on the Starcraft 2 forums pale in comparison.
But after having a few in depth conversations with some intelligent Broodwar fans it really just seems to follow the mantra of a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.
In any case, stop trolling me, if you dont have anything productive to say then gtfo please.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don't take this troll too seriously.
Have a great day.
I agree folks, dont take the guy thats attempting to be unbiased about things opinion over the people that just say, "trolololollol lmfao" because, well that would just be foolish.
Obviously the intelligence factor speaks for itself concerning that one.
Thanks man, I am actually having a nice day :D
Unbiased over opinion you say?...that's funny
You say BW is an eyesore but sc2 is not...well guess what? That's a fucking opinion. Personally I think sc2 is a huge eye sore with its god awful units and mechanics. Doesn't make it a fact though. But it also means your statements arent facts, but in fact opinions. Terrible post
rofl
this is why I don't even bother talking to people who have no idea what they're saying. Love how he says he's unbiased. ^^
On March 24 2012 03:41 NoDDiE wrote: bw fanboys are too sensitive :D (i used to be one before i played sc2) you are presented with option which make your//ours? game survive and still you flame it for being stupid... with such attitude that game wont last long...
I'm just going to repost something for you, so you can see where we're coming from:
On March 24 2012 03:06 moopie wrote: Can you image a match where a team wins all/most of the BW sets and loses the match? what kind of bullshit would that be. How can a BW fan get hyped about competition when it becomes such a farce.
It would become a bullshit league. I rather have 1 league; 1 game.
On March 24 2012 03:44 HyruleanTubist wrote: That actually sounds really awesome to me. I'd watch the shit out of this if this happens. I wonder how the teams are going to work, will the BW teams and SC2 teams combine somehow?
On March 24 2012 03:07 howLiN wrote: [quote] That's really unnecessary... If anything SC2 is bringing a new level of progaming outside Korea.
lol
"level"
"progaming"
i really don't think so...if anything the levels are way significantly worse.
That's irrelevant if there literally wasn't any level of progaming outside of Korea at all before SC2. And programing implies to make a living playing a game competitively (regardless of skill), so I don't know what the quotation marks are for other than to be condescendant.
I used quotes because it's not really progaming and the level of players at the moment is not impressive whatsoever. Feels so artificial.
It really is progaming, there are paychecks and stuff. Maybe it feels artificial because you choose to hate the game but again, that's irrelevant to the legitimacy of its professional scene. Things are what they are.
You do know barely any foreign team pays their player salarys right? Otherwise I would not call it progaming because they are not earning any income to support themselves
That's why I said "is bringing a new level of progaming" as in "is starting to bring", instead of "brought":
What makes you think foreigners will start to earn salarys? At this pace, foreigners will disappear slowly as BW players switch to SC2
There is a competitive structure in the west that didn't exist in BW. I think that may have the ability to fuel a sustainable progaming scene, because that structure is starting to be able to monetize themselves in a way that may allow for a better chance of turning profits for the players, and in turn making the teams sustainable.
What in the blue hell are you chirpping about? We had our own competitive structure bucko. Not comparative to the Korean's system, but that doesn't change the fact that players could still go over there and try to go through Courage. Only a few guys made it out and the rest of the licenses were handouts.
There was a competitive structure. Don't shit on everything that we've done please, thanks.
Yeah, there was a structure; but to call that structure (play WCG and a few other tournaments a few times a year, have a 1/10000 chance that a Korean pro-team might allow you to play for them) something comparable to the modern SC2 scene is something very close to a lie. In any event, he didn't say that there wasn't a structure, he just said that there now exists a structure that didn't exist before. That much is simply undeniable. Seriously, there are now serious progaming teams with team houses and large salaries for their players in the West. You just didn't have that in BW.
Again, liking BW doesn't necessarily involve pissing on what SC2 has accomplished, any more than liking SC2 necessarily involves pissing on what BW accomplished. Let's at least be honest here.
On March 24 2012 03:07 howLiN wrote: [quote] That's really unnecessary... If anything SC2 is bringing a new level of progaming outside Korea.
lol
"level"
"progaming"
i really don't think so...if anything the levels are way significantly worse.
That's irrelevant if there literally wasn't any level of progaming outside of Korea at all before SC2. And programing implies to make a living playing a game competitively (regardless of skill), so I don't know what the quotation marks are for other than to be condescendant.
I used quotes because it's not really progaming and the level of players at the moment is not impressive whatsoever. Feels so artificial.
It really is progaming, there are paychecks and stuff. Maybe it feels artificial because you choose to hate the game but again, that's irrelevant to the legitimacy of its professional scene. Things are what they are.
You do know barely any foreign team pays their player salarys right? Otherwise I would not call it progaming because they are not earning any income to support themselves
That's why I said "is bringing a new level of progaming" as in "is starting to bring", instead of "brought":
What makes you think foreigners will start to earn salarys? At this pace, foreigners will disappear slowly as BW players switch to SC2
There is a competitive structure in the west that didn't exist in BW. I think that may have the ability to fuel a sustainable progaming scene, because that structure is starting to be able to monetize themselves in a way that may allow for a better chance of turning profits for the players, and in turn making the teams sustainable.
What in the blue hell are you chirping about? We had our own competitive structure bucko. Not comparative to the Korean's system, but that doesn't change the fact that players could still go over there and try to go through Courage. Only a few guys made it out and the rest of the licenses were handouts.
There was a competitive structure. Don't shit on everything that we've done please, thanks.
Stop being defensive, I'm not shitting on anything. It's clear that the BW foreign scene and the SC2 foreign scene have very different structures. Granted, the Korean scene (the most competitive in both games) is much more solid in BW than it is in SC2, but on the west it's kinda backwards.
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
All your posts have been trolling BW threads, why have you not been banned yet?
I am not even close to trolling with my current post, so that is a pretty irrelevant point. I used to troll simply because it seems that alot of Broodwar fanboys are so ridiculously biased that they would make any QQ regular on the Starcraft 2 forums pale in comparison.
But after having a few in depth conversations with some intelligent Broodwar fans it really just seems to follow the mantra of a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.
In any case, stop trolling me, if you dont have anything productive to say then gtfo please.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don't take this troll too seriously.
Have a great day.
I agree folks, dont take the guy thats attempting to be unbiased about things opinion over the people that just say, "trolololollol lmfao" because, well that would just be foolish.
Obviously the intelligence factor speaks for itself concerning that one.
Thanks man, I am actually having a nice day :D
Unbiased over opinion you say?...that's funny
You say BW is an eyesore but sc2 is not...well guess what? That's a fucking opinion. Personally I think sc2 is a huge eye sore with its god awful units and mechanics. Doesn't make it a fact though. But it also means your statements arent facts, but in fact opinions. Terrible post
I just gave what I personally thought were the pros and the cons of each game. That is the complete opposite of bias. If I was biased I would have listed nothing but pros for SC2 and nothing but cons for BW O____O
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
All your posts have been trolling BW threads, why have you not been banned yet?
I am not even close to trolling with my current post, so that is a pretty irrelevant point. I used to troll simply because it seems that alot of Broodwar fanboys are so ridiculously biased that they would make any QQ regular on the Starcraft 2 forums pale in comparison.
But after having a few in depth conversations with some intelligent Broodwar fans it really just seems to follow the mantra of a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.
In any case, stop trolling me, if you dont have anything productive to say then gtfo please.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don't take this troll too seriously.
Have a great day.
I agree folks, dont take the guy thats attempting to be unbiased about things opinion over the people that just say, "trolololollol lmfao" because, well that would just be foolish.
Obviously the intelligence factor speaks for itself concerning that one.
Thanks man, I am actually having a nice day :D
Unbiased over opinion you say?...that's funny
You say BW is an eyesore but sc2 is not...well guess what? That's a fucking opinion. Personally I think sc2 is a huge eye sore with its god awful units and mechanics. Doesn't make it a fact though. But it also means your statements arent facts, but in fact opinions. Terrible post
I just gave what I personally thought were the pros and the cons of each game. That is the complete opposite of bias. If I was biased I would have listed nothing but pros for SC2 and nothing but cons for BW O____O
Jesus Christ you BW fanboys are sensitive.
God. you are a piece of fucking idiot. Personal thought = biased opinion genius
Just unrelated biff, but some people woo over 'better graphics' when my opinion it has thrown away functionality as trade-off. Consider Starcraft 2 and Starcraft, then much better example of Civ 5 and Civ 4. Jesus.
On March 24 2012 02:07 JohnnyPG wrote: There is a shit load of angry BW fanboys on here D:
Now, coming from a relatively unbiased point of view, I think this is going to really bring the community together :D
I closely follow both BW and SC2 because both of them have their inherent flaws and their awesome traits.
BW Pros : Ridiculous APM requirements, old school heroes like Bisu and JD, difficult interface, so you know those boys are just clickin and clackin away on those keyboards >: D these two things just make it sooo fucking interesting to watch because you know that pure talent is behind those screens.
BW cons = Eyesore, not saying BW is just unwatchable, but by modern standards, ya -___- Lack of new faces, we all know Flash, JD, Bisu, and the likes are always going to be at the forefront, no room for growth, guys..I love BW because of the incredible talent that is in it, but lets be honest with ourselves as fans, this move is a desperation move, because money and time are running out for our beloved game.
SC2 pros = Gorgeous to watch, all commentary is in English (for the most part), large foreign community with talent and potential, game is still young, strategies and metagame are expanding all the time, the game is already becoming much less deathball dependent, I saw a game with Puma the other day where he was executing double pronged drops and micro'ing them well along with his marine tank push, I was thoroughly impressed, the apm on that is sick, it seems like the true talent and practice is finally showing through,
Sc2 cons = Lack of ridiculously amazing players, the players are getting better....they are, but we dont have any true "Holy shit he is unstoppable" players as of right now, makes it hard to really get behind someone in my opinion. Deathballs, wihle the game is improving and stepping away from these, there is still the dreaded and boring deathballs ...,Mostly in matchups with Protoss is what I observe.
So pretty much, why wouldnt you guys want this? Why must you be "BW fans" or "SC2 fans"? Why not just be "Starcraft fans"? I think this is cool, it might breathe some new life into the BW scene and its starting a more rapid integration in the Korean scene (I'm sure they are hesitant about the change).
SO as STARCRAFT fans lets look at this through some optimism yes?
Starcraft for life <3
All your posts have been trolling BW threads, why have you not been banned yet?
I am not even close to trolling with my current post, so that is a pretty irrelevant point. I used to troll simply because it seems that alot of Broodwar fanboys are so ridiculously biased that they would make any QQ regular on the Starcraft 2 forums pale in comparison.
But after having a few in depth conversations with some intelligent Broodwar fans it really just seems to follow the mantra of a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.
In any case, stop trolling me, if you dont have anything productive to say then gtfo please.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don't take this troll too seriously.
Have a great day.
I agree folks, dont take the guy thats attempting to be unbiased about things opinion over the people that just say, "trolololollol lmfao" because, well that would just be foolish.
Obviously the intelligence factor speaks for itself concerning that one.
Thanks man, I am actually having a nice day :D
Unbiased over opinion you say?...that's funny
You say BW is an eyesore but sc2 is not...well guess what? That's a fucking opinion. Personally I think sc2 is a huge eye sore with its god awful units and mechanics. Doesn't make it a fact though. But it also means your statements arent facts, but in fact opinions. Terrible post
I just gave what I personally thought were the pros and the cons of each game. That is the complete opposite of bias. If I was biased I would have listed nothing but pros for SC2 and nothing but cons for BW O____O
On March 24 2012 03:46 brahle wrote: Way to go Proleague, mix a good game like SC2 with something as bad as BW.
Great way to strengthen your hold as lowest-tier Korean tournament.
As much as everyone here loves to call me ignorant and unbiased for saying things in favor in SC2, you are wrong, and BW is awesome, no game from SC2 or BW has compared to Jaedong vs. Stork...Fuck JD was just a BEAST that game D:
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