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On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play.
playing as much as a play and seeing how many skins how I see I would say it's sustainable for quite a while ... =S
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i can't imagine a worst name for a game, seriously... LoL???
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On February 23 2012 06:30 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. playing as much as a play and seeing how many skins how I see I would say it's sustainable for quite a while ... =S
What makes you think it's not sustainable? Do you have some type of statistics that Riot is actually losing money instead of making it when they are supporting these tournaments?
LoL is currently one of the biggest games in the world. I don't think Riot has any shortage of money.
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On February 23 2012 05:17 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 20:27 OptimusYale wrote:Korea has a nasty habit of playing terrible games they can cheat in. Sudden attack is full of aim bots and god knows what else, the hit boxes are ALL over the place and generally a REAL shit shooting game. And then fifa online 2 is a terrible game, its fifa 2008 with an online mode....sucks so bad!
Its strange, the young students are starting to find out about games like CoD, Fifa2012 and other 'new' games, but they don't like it because they can't cheat  *facepalm* Did you realize that all of those 'shitty games' are free and cost nothing to play unless they buy extra item in game? Because that's how Korea's PC gaming industry works for the most part. Make a game, release it free through game providers (netmarble, hangame etc.), then they make profit from the in-game items or extras, just like how LoL works.
Of course I do, I sat there in PC rooms for hours watching them play these games. Yes they're free but alot of the people who play actually spend alot more money pimping themselves out and making them selves impossible to kill if you don't pay the money yourself. And many of the 'new' pc rooms have cracked versions of L4D and COD and people enjoy playing them, kids love them but they can't play online. The graphics are bad and general 'I pay so therefore I win' just destroys the whole concept of gaming for me. I can understand that its free, but SC2 is free in pc rooms. All you need to do is register and boom you can play ladder for free.
The structure is good, they're free games, cool, but for the lvoe of god give them updates, or play the games that are more modern. Sudden Attack is like 300 years old, its a CS 1.5 rip off. It's not that good. The one game I did enjoy was AVA, which was more like COD, Battle field online which is a port of BF2 is a great game, however nobody plays it. Korean gamers in general do not like new games and change. SF and SA are glitch ridden games.....
As for the LoL I can see why, they play a lot of DOTA based games on WC3 still. The PC rooms have started to pimp out their PC's, they have top specs BUT they only play low spec games.....
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I hope Flash will switch to lol soon 
Seriously though, Yellow's SC2 project seemed pretty casual as well and I'm not sure how the Korean coaches work, but it's probably more kind of a managerial thingy (makes sure all the lollers are eating their vegetables and playing the game as little pro-gamers should). Seems like something someone who can would do - at worst lol is going to have a pretty big scene for a year or two before falling into the oblivion of gamehell where all games go.
It would be awesome if we could keep the horrors of which game is better than the other in the BW section though - at least they have some good experience with it already and have numbed out to the terrible terrible pain this nonsense should cause. Even this thread about lol in BW section seems to be a lot about how terrible SC2 is (it's really kind of pathetic).
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play.
Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners.
There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list...
IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?)
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On February 23 2012 07:07 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners. There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list... IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?)
yes, to get people to show up, they put out gifts.
i think for the first broadcast they gave away a katarina skin to the audience.
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*looks at title* *notices words YellOw + Storm.* *Head --> Exploded*
YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!! GOGOGO YELLOW!!! Best LoL team ever right here ^.^
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I don't have hard data saying it's not sustainable, but Riot paid something like a million in prizes last year, right? I should have said that growth is not sustainable by Riot alone. 2011's tournament system could easily be sustained by Riot.
On February 23 2012 07:07 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners. There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list... IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?)
Thanks for the info. These tournaments aren't getting their prize money from Riot, are they?
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Even though I wish he was still in the Starcraft scene, him being in the eSports scene as a whole is better than nothing. Storm Zerg fighting!
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On February 23 2012 07:25 Demonhunter04 wrote:I don't have hard data saying it's not sustainable, but Riot paid something like a million in prizes last year, right? I should have said that growth is not sustainable by Riot alone. 2011's tournament system could easily be sustained by Riot. Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 07:07 JBright wrote:On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners. There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list... IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?) Thanks for the info. These tournaments aren't getting their prize money from Riot, are they?
They are. The reason MLG does LoL instead of Dota is because Riot fronts the prize pool (according to the MLG CEO himself).
Riot's probably making money, but I doubt they're making money from the tournament scene directly. No "e-sports" tournaments are profitable, except maybe BW Proleague.
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Here's to hoping DOTA2 can smash this kiddie-clone into a million pieces. If BW is going to get replaced, I would rather bitterly accept it being done by SC2, even if it will never reach the masterpiece of the original. Damn Blizzard majorly fucked up if LoL is gaining ground over both BW and SC2.
Good luck to Yellow but I would rather see him as a KT coach or do what Boxer is now doing.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On February 23 2012 07:25 Demonhunter04 wrote:I don't have hard data saying it's not sustainable, but Riot paid something like a million in prizes last year, right? I should have said that growth is not sustainable by Riot alone. 2011's tournament system could easily be sustained by Riot. Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 07:07 JBright wrote:On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners. There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list... IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?) Thanks for the info. These tournaments aren't getting their prize money from Riot, are they?
Riot did get bought out by a Chinese company, Tencent, in early 2011 for ~$400 mil so they are doing ok in terms of growth. There was a 1 mil prize pool at DH last year for the championship and this year it will be a 5 mil prize pool for the entire year. It's basically a competition between Riot and Valve to see who can 1up the other in terms of the monies.
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On February 23 2012 06:52 OptimusYale wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 05:17 supernovamaniac wrote:On February 22 2012 20:27 OptimusYale wrote:Korea has a nasty habit of playing terrible games they can cheat in. Sudden attack is full of aim bots and god knows what else, the hit boxes are ALL over the place and generally a REAL shit shooting game. And then fifa online 2 is a terrible game, its fifa 2008 with an online mode....sucks so bad!
Its strange, the young students are starting to find out about games like CoD, Fifa2012 and other 'new' games, but they don't like it because they can't cheat *facepalm* Did you realize that all of those 'shitty games' are free and cost nothing to play unless they buy extra item in game? Because that's how Korea's PC gaming industry works for the most part. Make a game, release it free through game providers (netmarble, hangame etc.), then they make profit from the in-game items or extras, just like how LoL works. Of course I do, I sat there in PC rooms for hours watching them play these games. Yes they're free but alot of the people who play actually spend alot more money pimping themselves out and making them selves impossible to kill if you don't pay the money yourself. And many of the 'new' pc rooms have cracked versions of L4D and COD and people enjoy playing them, kids love them but they can't play online. The graphics are bad and general 'I pay so therefore I win' just destroys the whole concept of gaming for me. I can understand that its free, but SC2 is free in pc rooms. All you need to do is register and boom you can play ladder for free. The structure is good, they're free games, cool, but for the lvoe of god give them updates, or play the games that are more modern. Sudden Attack is like 300 years old, its a CS 1.5 rip off. It's not that good. The one game I did enjoy was AVA, which was more like COD, Battle field online which is a port of BF2 is a great game, however nobody plays it. Korean gamers in general do not like new games and change. SF and SA are glitch ridden games..... As for the LoL I can see why, they play a lot of DOTA based games on WC3 still. The PC rooms have started to pimp out their PC's, they have top specs BUT they only play low spec games.....
Reading this whole argument, all I saw was "play something new, stop playing BW and start playing SC2"
If people enjoy the game, they'll play it. If people don't enjoy the game, they won't. If they think upgrades are necessary to ALREADY SUCCESSFUL GAMES that are still doing well, they'll create a sequel (SF2?).
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On February 23 2012 06:52 OptimusYale wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 05:17 supernovamaniac wrote:On February 22 2012 20:27 OptimusYale wrote:Korea has a nasty habit of playing terrible games they can cheat in. Sudden attack is full of aim bots and god knows what else, the hit boxes are ALL over the place and generally a REAL shit shooting game. And then fifa online 2 is a terrible game, its fifa 2008 with an online mode....sucks so bad!
Its strange, the young students are starting to find out about games like CoD, Fifa2012 and other 'new' games, but they don't like it because they can't cheat *facepalm* Did you realize that all of those 'shitty games' are free and cost nothing to play unless they buy extra item in game? Because that's how Korea's PC gaming industry works for the most part. Make a game, release it free through game providers (netmarble, hangame etc.), then they make profit from the in-game items or extras, just like how LoL works. Of course I do, I sat there in PC rooms for hours watching them play these games. Yes they're free but alot of the people who play actually spend alot more money pimping themselves out and making them selves impossible to kill if you don't pay the money yourself. And many of the 'new' pc rooms have cracked versions of L4D and COD and people enjoy playing them, kids love them but they can't play online. The graphics are bad and general 'I pay so therefore I win' just destroys the whole concept of gaming for me. I can understand that its free, but SC2 is free in pc rooms. All you need to do is register and boom you can play ladder for free. The structure is good, they're free games, cool, but for the lvoe of god give them updates, or play the games that are more modern. Sudden Attack is like 300 years old, its a CS 1.5 rip off. It's not that good. The one game I did enjoy was AVA, which was more like COD, Battle field online which is a port of BF2 is a great game, however nobody plays it. Korean gamers in general do not like new games and change. SF and SA are glitch ridden games..... As for the LoL I can see why, they play a lot of DOTA based games on WC3 still. The PC rooms have started to pimp out their PC's, they have top specs BUT they only play low spec games.....
It's not a CS 1.6 rip-off, it's like they took everything good about CS and made it awful, and then released it. SA is so garbage. With that being said, CoD and BF are garbage too, so meh.
Honestly, I'm not surprised to see this. I can't imagine him wanting to continue playing so a coaching role would be best, and since LoL is much bigger inside of Korea it's a good choice.
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On February 23 2012 06:41 XenOsky- wrote:
i can't imagine a worst name for a game, seriously... LoL???
Welcome to 3 years ago ser, do you really think they hadn't considered the acronym?
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On February 23 2012 07:43 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 07:25 Demonhunter04 wrote:I don't have hard data saying it's not sustainable, but Riot paid something like a million in prizes last year, right? I should have said that growth is not sustainable by Riot alone. 2011's tournament system could easily be sustained by Riot. On February 23 2012 07:07 JBright wrote:On February 23 2012 06:28 Demonhunter04 wrote:On February 22 2012 18:14 Norada wrote:
At the people saying lol is like sc2 and will just burn out or is a "bubble" is pretty hilarious. sc2 never ever made the charts for top games played in pc cafes, where lol was steady at lower 2-5% and just recently bursted up higher. If anything it will grow more since tournaments are gaining more support recently. Sc2 was never played as much as lol currently is (in korea).
Sc2 fans need to stop living in a delusional world. All LoL tournaments are funded at least in part by Riot afaik, which is not that sustainable. LoL only has a couple of tournaments a year and is frankly not that interesting to watch. The reason it's so widely played is that it's free and very easy to play. Hmm, this might have been true for 2011 but there have been at least 2 major tournaments that is not directly funded by Riot (Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational) in 2012 so it's getting better. However, all tournaments are able to ask Riot for in-game prizes such as skins and in-game currency for the winners. There are going to be quite a few big LoL tournaments this year, probably averaging along the lines of 1 per month. This is not an exhaustive list... IEM Kiev, IEM Season 6 World Championship, IPL4, Kings of Europe, OGN Invitational, OGN League Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, MSI Nvidia Trophy, Dreamhack x2 (?), MLG x4 (?), IEM Season 7 x3 (?) Thanks for the info. These tournaments aren't getting their prize money from Riot, are they? Riot did get bought out by a Chinese company, Tencent, in early 2011 for ~$400 mil so they are doing ok in terms of growth. There was a 1 mil prize pool at DH last year for the championship and this year it will be a 5 mil prize pool for the entire year. It's basically a competition between Riot and Valve to see who can 1up the other in terms of the monies.
Yes, its definitely intresting to watch those two duke it out
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On February 23 2012 05:24 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 04:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:On February 22 2012 20:27 OptimusYale wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 15:22 NonFactor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 15:18 Ribbon wrote:On February 22 2012 15:08 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Isn't LoL scene like second only to SCII in size? 3rd. BW is still bigger than SC2. I don't think LoL is very big in Korea, but it also released there fairly recently, so it's a good bet it'll grow. Still, it's really kind of arbitrary a career move. I guess I wish him well, though. I wonder if it's named "Storm" after him. I'd like to see him play, I guess. I wonder what champion he'd pick. Sudden Attack FPS 15.10% Aion RPG 12.96% League of Legends RTS 9.48% FIFA Online 2 Sport 6.45% StarCraft RTS 5.50% Warcraft 3 RTS 5.49% Lineage RPG 3.03% Dungeon and Fighter RPG 2.40% World of Warcraft RPG 2.38% Terra RPG 2.22% Source: gametrics Afaik, these stats are drawn from activity in PCBangs (Korean internet cafes, and are usually used to follow which games are popular and so on). Sudden Attack, the korean CS, being the most dominant one followed by Aion, an MMORPG. LoL has seen an explosive growth in Korea, which is why you see all them Pros talk about it / move it. It could very well be the next big thing in Korea. (If it already isn't.) Really looking forward to this. Korea has a nasty habit of playing terrible games they can cheat in. Sudden attack is full of aim bots and god knows what else, the hit boxes are ALL over the place and generally a REAL shit shooting game. And then fifa online 2 is a terrible game, its fifa 2008 with an online mode....sucks so bad! Its strange, the young students are starting to find out about games like CoD, Fifa2012 and other 'new' games, but they don't like it because they can't cheat As for yellow and LoL, I am disappointed that LoL, a game which is pretty bad to watch, fun to play is getting popular and dragging players away. I can imagine playing it for fun ' I have' but I don't understand why people play it competitively compared to other MOBA's. Popularity. It's pretty easy to argue that League of Legends is one of the most popular PC games in the world right now. There are tons of people who are in complete denial at how popular LoL is and you can see it in this thread, but I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears people who sit in the school's computer lab to watch LoL streams and browse the LoL forums, and it's easy to say that they've all been exposed to the competitive scene since Riot promotes it so much. I've only met one person at my school who follows competitive SC2, despite me knowing a lot of people who played Brood War in their childhood and bought Starcraft 2 on release. Blizzard just doesn't do a very good job at promoting esports. As for LoL being boring to watch, I agree, but there's that factor of "hey, there's these pro guys who are a lot better than me at this game I play with my friends all the time! Maybe I can learn from them!" Take it's popularity (it's up there with WoW) and consider all the money they get from the paystore (generally $10 for each hero, $10 for each skin), that's how much money Riot makes, which Riot then invests (heavily) into the competitive scene. Promoting their game means promoting their competitive scene, which then leads into more ad revenue from tournaments run by Riot, which then leads to sponsors gaining interest in LoL teams. Nada himself says that LoL attracts competitive gamers because of how huge the prize pool is (take this with a grain of salt though, since he was told by Riot to promote the game). Bunch of jocked-out kids behind me on the bus the other night talking about LoL. "Pff you fuckin' idiot why would I build AP Cho'Gath." Smiled, although I wanted to butt-in and tell him to go play some bots and figure it out XD
You should never build ap on cho, ap cho does insiginfigant damage in the late game and is hardly tanky. If you build him tank he is a cc spitting, damage soaking, feasting monster. Those jocked-out kids have a deeper understanding of the game than you.
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On February 23 2012 08:45 Reuental wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 05:24 Cedstick wrote:On February 23 2012 04:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:On February 22 2012 20:27 OptimusYale wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2012 15:22 NonFactor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 15:18 Ribbon wrote:On February 22 2012 15:08 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Isn't LoL scene like second only to SCII in size? 3rd. BW is still bigger than SC2. I don't think LoL is very big in Korea, but it also released there fairly recently, so it's a good bet it'll grow. Still, it's really kind of arbitrary a career move. I guess I wish him well, though. I wonder if it's named "Storm" after him. I'd like to see him play, I guess. I wonder what champion he'd pick. Sudden Attack FPS 15.10% Aion RPG 12.96% League of Legends RTS 9.48% FIFA Online 2 Sport 6.45% StarCraft RTS 5.50% Warcraft 3 RTS 5.49% Lineage RPG 3.03% Dungeon and Fighter RPG 2.40% World of Warcraft RPG 2.38% Terra RPG 2.22% Source: gametrics Afaik, these stats are drawn from activity in PCBangs (Korean internet cafes, and are usually used to follow which games are popular and so on). Sudden Attack, the korean CS, being the most dominant one followed by Aion, an MMORPG. LoL has seen an explosive growth in Korea, which is why you see all them Pros talk about it / move it. It could very well be the next big thing in Korea. (If it already isn't.) Really looking forward to this. Korea has a nasty habit of playing terrible games they can cheat in. Sudden attack is full of aim bots and god knows what else, the hit boxes are ALL over the place and generally a REAL shit shooting game. And then fifa online 2 is a terrible game, its fifa 2008 with an online mode....sucks so bad! Its strange, the young students are starting to find out about games like CoD, Fifa2012 and other 'new' games, but they don't like it because they can't cheat As for yellow and LoL, I am disappointed that LoL, a game which is pretty bad to watch, fun to play is getting popular and dragging players away. I can imagine playing it for fun ' I have' but I don't understand why people play it competitively compared to other MOBA's. Popularity. It's pretty easy to argue that League of Legends is one of the most popular PC games in the world right now. There are tons of people who are in complete denial at how popular LoL is and you can see it in this thread, but I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears people who sit in the school's computer lab to watch LoL streams and browse the LoL forums, and it's easy to say that they've all been exposed to the competitive scene since Riot promotes it so much. I've only met one person at my school who follows competitive SC2, despite me knowing a lot of people who played Brood War in their childhood and bought Starcraft 2 on release. Blizzard just doesn't do a very good job at promoting esports. As for LoL being boring to watch, I agree, but there's that factor of "hey, there's these pro guys who are a lot better than me at this game I play with my friends all the time! Maybe I can learn from them!" Take it's popularity (it's up there with WoW) and consider all the money they get from the paystore (generally $10 for each hero, $10 for each skin), that's how much money Riot makes, which Riot then invests (heavily) into the competitive scene. Promoting their game means promoting their competitive scene, which then leads into more ad revenue from tournaments run by Riot, which then leads to sponsors gaining interest in LoL teams. Nada himself says that LoL attracts competitive gamers because of how huge the prize pool is (take this with a grain of salt though, since he was told by Riot to promote the game). Bunch of jocked-out kids behind me on the bus the other night talking about LoL. "Pff you fuckin' idiot why would I build AP Cho'Gath." Smiled, although I wanted to butt-in and tell him to go play some bots and figure it out XD You should never build ap on cho, ap cho does insiginfigant damage in the late game and is hardly tanky. If you build him tank he is a cc spitting, damage soaking, feasting monster. Those jocked-out kids have a deeper understanding of the game than you.
Poor -- or missing, rather -- wording; allow me to elaborate. They were theory-crafting AD Cho'gath vs AP. Probably fucking around, though.
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On February 23 2012 04:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahaha holy crap people complaining because LoL is easier than SC2. I remember getting lambasted for even insinuating the same thing about SC2 in reference to BW.
What was the usual response? Move on? Get with the times?
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORTS. I mean do you even understand how big LoL is? It is doing so much more for ESPORTS than sc2.
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