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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
January 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#81
thanks for the spoilers ¬¬"
ace hwaiting!!
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 10 2012 20:09 GMT
#82
I'm sure it's about 80%-90% point c. Having the thought that you could be out of a job at any point, whether it's a conscious or sub-conscious thought, is obviously extremely stressful, and is a stress that the other players don't really have, at least at the level of team 8.

point a is the other 10%-20%, since obviously having a coach gives you a huge advantage, and the players themeselves are probably acting as their own coaches atm, which obviously detracts from practice.

Doubt it's point b though. All these guys are well respected within the small progaming community, and I'm pretty sure players practice with players from other teams, though I could obviously be dead wrong.
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 21:17:36
January 10 2012 20:20 GMT
#83
I think it has been proven that throwing very talented athletes together at random doesn't always yield wins or titles. I'm sure they are going through some adjustment issues just like any other human beings who are suddenly thrown together into living in close quarters, as well as the lack of a stable sponsor.
Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
January 10 2012 20:26 GMT
#84
Yeah that's why I don't watch em play anymore cause it hurts to watch such good players get wrecked :-/. I think they're probably gonna switch to SC2. Their loyal fans will follow them and they would get sponsors in no time considering they're still legends. With MLG, NASL, GSL, IPL, WCG, ESWC and Blizzcon..switching to SC2 seems like a good option in their eyes...FXO Manager said Top BW Pros would be switching..Maybe these are the guys ? Sucks they would be leaving the pro scene but hey nothing lasts forever ..
"All your parties are our pre-parties cause you ain't from IV!"
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#85
Its been very sad for me to watch jaedong past months in general and yeah in general team 8 isn't doing as good as I thought they would either. It sucks . Hopefully they turn things around but idk just might not happen very pessimistic about it to be honest.
When I think of something else, something will go here
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 10 2012 20:35 GMT
#86
Could you at LEAST waited a day or so after the match before making such a hardcore spoiler topic title?
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
January 10 2012 20:38 GMT
#87
The thread title is a spoiler itself...
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
January 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#88
To everyone bitchin about spoilers : WHY DONT YOU GO WATCH THE DAMN GAMES BEFORES READING THE FORUMS omg you guys are ANNOYING seriously.

What do you expect !?!?!?!?!?!?
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#89
On January 11 2012 05:56 sM.Zik wrote:
To everyone bitchin about spoilers : WHY DONT YOU GO WATCH THE DAMN GAMES BEFORES READING THE FORUMS omg you guys are ANNOYING seriously.

What do you expect !?!?!?!?!?!?


>>go to teamliquid.net to watch Sayle's rebroadcast
>>topic title pops up on sidebar

Wasn't even reading the forums, spoilers right on the front page of TL
FMStyles
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany162 Posts
January 10 2012 21:05 GMT
#90
the games were/are a waste of time anyway~~
Weaklings can't pick their way of death.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 10 2012 21:09 GMT
#91
On January 11 2012 06:05 FMStyles wrote:
the games were/are a waste of time anyway~~


Yeah, spoiling them is probably less painful than watching them tbh
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 21:26:51
January 10 2012 21:26 GMT
#92
I saw enough people annoyed by spoilers that I changed the topic name.

GOOD ON YOU GTR.
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 21:36:56
January 10 2012 21:35 GMT
#93
They didn't practice for over a month, are in a new team (which rarely makes players play better immediately), and they are SO predictable when it comes to map picks. It's not hard to snipe t8's players when you can be like 90% sure of who is coming out when. Oh, I forgot that this is also probably the most stacked PL we've had in a while - every team has a good line-up. Even STX and Ace are quite scary.

Give them some time before you start bashing them,
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Sethronu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom450 Posts
January 10 2012 21:35 GMT
#94
I think the coach hate is really unjustified. While I do agree they could use another coach or two to help out with strategies / analysis and such, how many players do you know of that played spectacular right after transferring teams? Pretty much every single one transferee went into a slump following their transfer in the past, now apply that to the entire team, + the lack of sponsor and general decline of BW, and it's not too surprising to see them not doing so well.

On top of that, when you have a new transfer join SKT or CJ, even if they slump hard and lose 10 games in a row, their team is still winning, so it's probably easier to stay motivated. When you have a situation like this, with their entire team being a transfer, and all of them performing weaker than they 'should', I'd imagine its super easy to get demoralized and start losing even more.

At any rate, I really hope they can overcome their troubles - seeing Jaedong's face after his loss today was heartbreaking.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
January 10 2012 21:35 GMT
#95
JD's expression after losing that game , it sure hell isn't the lack of passion from the players (He looked like he wanted to murder someone)

I think the current problem is that the team is too small and players simply have too much pressure placed them to clear their mind and just play comfortably. Remember how awful Jangbi (the paewang era) was before he actually broke through his psychological blocks and then he won an OSL. Hoping for the same here
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#96
The appointment of Head Coach Ju was not a bad choice by KeSPA. He is one of the most prolific coaches in the history of SCBW with his triple crown (in his time as SKT head coach). They even picked up former Hwaseung Oz head coach, Coach Han. Considering that there is no sponsor, it was amazing that KeSPA would be willing to pay for both of them, plus all the players (their salaries stayed same or better compared to last year with their former teams).

I do agree that an additional coach or two would definitely be an asset to the team, but it's just not realistic at the moment with no sponsor. However, I think it's the lack of in-house practice partners that's really hurting the team. Sure, progamers practice with each other across teams but I highly doubt they use map-specific-would-use-in-next-match strategic plays against each other. From what we've read in winners interviews, players usually credit their teammates (not friends on other teams) for practice time + strategic refinement.

There are so many gaps to fill, most of which can probably be addressed with a proper sponsor - so we can only hope for some eSports love from Korean companies.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 10 2012 21:57 GMT
#97
On January 11 2012 03:52 sinistral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 02:44 Ryo wrote:
On January 11 2012 02:36 sinistral wrote:
If only T8 can improve their protoss line to be honest. Jaehoon and Tyson isn't going to be good enough practice partner for the rest of the main players, and only 1 protoss rookie to help out isn't going to cut it.

Yeah, Sea's TvP was quite solid last season. Kespa should have recruited the protoss players he used to practice with instead of Jaehoon, Tyson and Sang. And it's also Jaehoon's fault that Jaedong lost to Canata and Flash. He really sucks at TvZ.

I'll be blunt and say the entire team's vP has stagnated.


On the contrary, I think Protoss are doing very well this season (maps, maybe?), and unfortunately T8's P lineup isn't the best. D:
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 10 2012 22:08 GMT
#98
this looks pretty grim atm if you ask me -.-

I think they need to find some sponsor like quicklyyy or else we might see the fall of this team...

which would be very sad...

I think its the lack of players and coaches that is killing this team..

hopefully all will be good and they will perform better than this...

also I didnt hear about KeSPa changing to SC2 ? is this true ? ...
T H C makes ppl happy
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
January 10 2012 22:14 GMT
#99
On January 11 2012 07:08 Sinedd wrote:
this looks pretty grim atm if you ask me -.-

I think they need to find some sponsor like quicklyyy or else we might see the fall of this team...

which would be very sad...

I think its the lack of players and coaches that is killing this team..

hopefully all will be good and they will perform better than this...

also I didnt hear about KeSPa changing to SC2 ? is this true ? ...


They might add sc2 into the mix, but it would make no sense for them to even start t8 and then stop supporting BW, so I don't think you have to worry about that at all.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 10 2012 22:14 GMT
#100
They also don't have enough to field a full soccer team. They don't have the ability to intimidate the other teams despite having many good players capable of scoring goals.
Jaedong :3
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