They might add sc2 into the mix, but it would make no sense for them to even start t8 and then stop supporting BW, so I don't think you have to worry about that at all.

good.. I hope so..

Archers_bane

United States1338 Posts

January 10 2012 22:28 GMT

#102

If I was a CEO of a big-name company, seeing how T8 is performing currently is for sure as hell not making me want to sponsor them. Team 8 has to fight their way back for them to even be considered being sponsored, and it sucks because they are human and going through change and being put in new environments you are unfamiliar with is not the easiest thing to do

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 10 2012 22:32 GMT

#103

On the other hand, good investors know to buy weak stocks that can be significantly improved under the good management. ...Too bad that most of the economic principles do not apply to the purchase of game team though.

Archers_bane

United States1338 Posts

January 10 2012 22:38 GMT

#104

Team 8 is an expensive bunch with their salaries, seriously doubt any company wants to risk a large amount of money for an obvious failing team. If team 8 saw decent results and surely not last place, then companies can consider that big financial risk and see some potential profit. Damn JD pick it up son

StarStruck

25339 Posts

January 10 2012 23:05 GMT

#105

On January 11 2012 06:26 heyoka wrote:
I saw enough people annoyed by spoilers that I changed the topic name.

GOOD ON YOU GTR.

GTR ruining esports since 2004.

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

January 11 2012 00:01 GMT

#106

I have faith. Those games were garbage but it's tough times and Team 8 have to be more stressed then other teams about their futures. JD is 4-1 vs Flash in recent history, though I believe Flash is ahead now in their cumulative matches. I've also seen sweat toss lose in more spectacular ways.

VGhost

United States3621 Posts

January 11 2012 00:14 GMT

#107

On January 11 2012 03:58 o[twist] wrote:
the fact that everyone is performing below par vP tells you what you need to know about the importance of good practice partners, but in addition the coaching is just obviously not there, with preparation and with lineups

Given the legendary fail that is the SKT Zerg-line, I'm saying that's so much nonsense. What might be more important is a variety of practice partners, which is one thing we've seen commented on before, i.e. with ACE.

Archers_bane

United States1338 Posts

January 11 2012 00:59 GMT

#108

Team 8 has CJ next match too, doesn't look so good

Release

United States4397 Posts

January 11 2012 01:06 GMT

#109

On January 11 2012 09:59 Archers_bane wrote:
Team 8 has CJ next match too, doesn't look so good

and they will win, and it will spark an epic turn around.

Abort Retry Fail

2636 Posts

January 11 2012 01:16 GMT

#110

tbh, this the title is a spoiler itself. Missed the games earlier, but if i were a Team 8 fan, id be sorely pissed.
anyway, im happy kt won, but really wish team 8 could perform to their real caliber!

Antisocialmunky

United States5913 Posts

January 11 2012 01:18 GMT

#111

That's too bad, but Airforce Ace is much in the same boat. Hopefully they can iron it out this season.

iSometric

2221 Posts

January 11 2012 01:19 GMT

#112

Wow just saw the games, and they got wrecked. I feel so bad that these players (based on prev. results) should be in no way behind Ace and STX imo...

FlaShFTW

United States10558 Posts

January 11 2012 01:39 GMT

#113

The problem with T8 is that there is no real new blood appearing in their games. Same 5/6 player lineup, Jaedong/Sea/Baby/Jaehoon/Killer/Tyson. You need to recruit newer players, get more practice people.

Sniping is too easy. Seriously, of course Jaedong is going to appear on Ground Zero, and of course FlaSh is going to "snipe" Jaedong there. They have to do a better job of players on these maps, like try to snipe. However their sniping ability is not there due to the fact that they have no players to throw away. They need all 5/6 of their players, and if you throw one away, its like throwing the whole series away.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

January 11 2012 01:40 GMT

#114

On January 11 2012 10:18 Antisocialmunky wrote:
That's too bad, but Airforce Ace is much in the same boat. Hopefully they can iron it out this season.

Ace is 4-5 and actually are playing well even in defeat.

T8 is just awful. They would be 1-8 if it wasn't for KT randomly choking a 2-0 lead away the first time they met.

Dental Floss

United States1015 Posts

January 11 2012 01:48 GMT

#115

On January 11 2012 10:39 FlaShFTW wrote:
The problem with T8 is that there is no real new blood appearing in their games. Same 5/6 player lineup, Jaedong/Sea/Baby/Jaehoon/Killer/Tyson. You need to recruit newer players, get more practice people.

Sniping is too easy. Seriously, of course Jaedong is going to appear on Ground Zero, and of course FlaSh is going to "snipe" Jaedong there. They have to do a better job of players on these maps, like try to snipe. However their sniping ability is not there due to the fact that they have no players to throw away. They need all 5/6 of their players, and if you throw one away, its like throwing the whole series away.

I think this is exacerbated by the bo5 format.I'm pretty convinced at this point that the bo7 format was better than bo5 in pretty much every way possible.

Antisocialmunky

United States5913 Posts

January 11 2012 01:52 GMT

#116

On January 11 2012 10:40 Fionn wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ace is 4-5 and actually are playing well even in defeat.

T8 is just awful. They would be 1-8 if it wasn't for KT randomly choking a 2-0 lead away the first time they met.

Um, neither one of them has a ton of coaching/staffing resources. That's what I was referring to. ACE does get help from other team's practice partners though so T8 probably will get that or already have that now.

Ideas

United States8176 Posts

January 11 2012 01:55 GMT

#117

On January 11 2012 05:26 Colonial wrote:
Yeah that's why I don't watch em play anymore cause it hurts to watch such good players get wrecked :-/. I think they're probably gonna switch to SC2. Their loyal fans will follow them and they would get sponsors in no time considering they're still legends. With MLG, NASL, GSL, IPL, WCG, ESWC and Blizzcon..switching to SC2 seems like a good option in their eyes...FXO Manager said Top BW Pros would be switching..Maybe these are the guys

? Sucks they would be leaving the pro scene but hey nothing lasts forever

people won't follow sc2 just because their favorite players switched. if that was the case SC2 would be a hell of a lot more popular in korea than it actually is with the likes of nada/boxer/july playing it.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

January 11 2012 01:58 GMT

#118

I propose TL allow a T8 insignia, or whatever we call that thing in the bottom right hand corner of our posts.

I also propose that every single person on here be forced to wear said badge, be they a SKT/KT/CJ/KHAN/ACE/Stars/one of the 3 STX fans, until some rich Korean business owner visits TL and sees the overwhelming support the team has and decides to sponser them.

or just give people the option of wearing one. i'd do it

Grampz

United States2147 Posts

January 11 2012 02:05 GMT

#119

Yes, I feel that after the slow start they had, they have lost motivation as well. You have to think about that. Playing like your life is on the line and losing games you should win EASILY, it must KILL their spirit. They are a new team, a young team, a small team. A TALENTED TEAM, but an unmotivated team will never play their best and will ALWAYS make mistakes. Maybe they just gave up.

Another thing, could this be the end of jaedong? This proleague season, he has looked...human...as he has for a while. His ZvT at times looks untouchable, but at times, like last night, his ZvT looks useless.

Whatever the case, I hope it turns around and quick, because the end of brood war is coming, and for such talented players to out like this, it's just a travesty.

red4ce

United States7313 Posts

January 11 2012 02:06 GMT

#120

I agree with everything you said GTR. If anyone ever says that teams in Starcraft are nothing more than a collection of outstanding individuals, I will point them to the current proleague standings.