I'd say the principal problem is lack of practice partners, they should have at least 1 more coach and player for each race, but the players are the priority.

RogerX

New Zealand3180 Posts

January 12 2012 11:54 GMT

#182

Whats their economic stance right now?

I know they don't have sponsers but can they afford more coaches or is it too late ? :S

Also Jaedong... T_T

infinity2k9

United Kingdom2397 Posts

January 12 2012 14:10 GMT

#183

I think players age came into it heavily, HiyA by progamer standards has probably peaked i think it's fair to say. Killer would be the easy choice if it's one of the two. But i really think they should have got Sky, he could not be much for wages.. he performed better than sHy and Dear in Dream League, by all accounts he was going to form into at least a solid mid-tier P in my opinion. There's still time, they need a P and should really get him. I'd hate to see a player who had potential forced to quit without a chance.

Geographer

United States185 Posts

January 12 2012 15:42 GMT

#184

When wil the OSL or MSL start?

awwnuts07

United States621 Posts

January 12 2012 16:10 GMT

#185

On January 13 2012 00:42 Geographer wrote:
When wil the OSL or MSL start?

OSL= sometime this year, hopefully soon.

MSL= Never

hypercube

Hungary2735 Posts

January 12 2012 16:19 GMT

#186

Lack of practice partners must be a huge issue. I imagine A-teamers don't practice against each other for Proleague very much. Every player focuses on his own map with dedicate practice partners who specialize on a certain map. Well, I'm speculating but that's what would make most sense to me.

Azera

3800 Posts

January 12 2012 16:30 GMT

#187

This seems rather unfortunate. I hope that Team 8 will do better in the future!

taitanik

Latvia231 Posts

January 12 2012 16:33 GMT

#188

i really hope they are just waiting for sc2 and they dont care about improving in bw anymore

blubbdavid

Switzerland2412 Posts

January 12 2012 16:46 GMT

#189

On January 13 2012 01:33 taitanik wrote:
i really hope they are just waiting for sc2 and they dont care about improving in bw anymore

You hope they are just waiting for SC2 to what?

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

January 12 2012 20:06 GMT

#190

Drop SC2 bullshit and don't bring it up here.

Lebesgue

4542 Posts

January 12 2012 20:28 GMT

#191

I agree with the others. I think that the lack of practice partner (way too short bench) as well as economic uncertainty plays the major role... It really makes me sad that they perform so poorly...

X10A

Canada9837 Posts

January 12 2012 21:46 GMT

#192

Don't bring up any of that Star2 crap here please. ><
& I hope an individual league is whats needed to kick start the players into playing in the form we all excpected them to play at.
Jaedong vs Baby OSL finals sounds like a nice attraction for sponsors no?
+ Show Spoiler +

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm in classes and the teacher's voice is ringing in my ears ><

Dental Floss

United States1015 Posts

January 12 2012 21:57 GMT

#193

I don't know why people expected T8 to take off so quickly. New teams usually start up pretty slowly. I think this was more of a problem with managing expectations combined with a team basically created to dominate the b07 format.

oBlade

United States6217 Posts

January 12 2012 22:02 GMT

#194

I think as a team they aren't being aggressive enough. I guess this reduces to a coaching problem, but not exactly. They're doing the best they can with the mindset they've picked, like Sea always rax FEing vs P and Jaedong always doing his same thing vs P. The idea is play better by cutting the maximum number of corners and just kind of endure the psychological baggage that comes with all the losses they've been blindsided by until they pick up the pace. Actually, they need to be more aggressive as a team so they're less predictable.

JohannesH

Finland1364 Posts

January 13 2012 00:12 GMT

#195

Now if they'd just have sponsor, then they'd have money, which would mean more coaches and players, which would mean better results... But with these results who will sponsor them?

Dakkas

2550 Posts

January 13 2012 00:45 GMT

#196

On January 13 2012 01:33 taitanik wrote:
i really hope they are just waiting for sc2 and they dont care about improving in bw anymore

You given reasonable objective SC2 fans a bad name. Never come in here again

WaZuP

Germany487 Posts

January 13 2012 01:24 GMT

#197

I don t know how important the coaching favtor is for such an expirienced team (Jaedongs been around forever lol)
But the situation you described in b) seems like a big factor to me. Beatin the same 5? 10 ? guys in training games everyday makes your play unflexible and less creative. its like messing arround at D//C ranks when you are at A//B skill level. yeah you have fun, you will win a lot but will you improve? definitly not ! and practicing with players you dont know could result in them "selling" your tactics or new styles to other teams.

also seeing a team with so much skill (they werent hyped as the dream team for no reason...) with no sponsor and therefor less motivation makes me really sad

because the devil wheel is spinnin no wins - no sponsors and so on

I dont think they practice to much for SC2 atm because why would you ride on two lanes at the same time? switch to it or dont fckin do it! it ll only result in beein mediocre at two games the same time

for some optimism i really liked this idead readin through the thread :

On January 11 2012 01:07 Taekwon wrote:
All of team 8 need to be effing dragged to the T1 practice house by gigantic Korean bodygaurds that forcibly silence
Park's outburst and protests and bind FBB, Hyuk, Flash, Zero, and FBH to chairs with signs planted at the front entrance that say "IN THE NAME OF BROOD WAR" and practice with every single one of Team 8 until they are all resuscitated in a massive fulmination of BW inspiritment and invigoration.

No STX was harmed in the making of this post.