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conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
February 18 2012 05:10 GMT
#101
Freezard I love your videos, I check 'em every couple of days. Keep it up!
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
February 19 2012 02:14 GMT
#102
Thank you! Glad to hear You can always subscribe!

And I might as well post a new run, BWT05. The SDA run has been posted here already, I copied it and finished 13 seconds faster. Will work on BWT07 now but the SDA run looks pretty solid already.



Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
March 02 2012 15:48 GMT
#103
All my SC runs are now up at SDA with comments for each mission

http://speeddemosarchive.com/Starcraft.html
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 02 2012 16:40 GMT
#104
On March 03 2012 00:48 Freezard wrote:
All my SC runs are now up at SDA with comments for each mission

http://speeddemosarchive.com/Starcraft.html
Nice! I was waiting for this!
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 02 2012 18:07 GMT
#105
On March 03 2012 00:48 Freezard wrote:
All my SC runs are now up at SDA with comments for each mission

http://speeddemosarchive.com/Starcraft.html

Välförtjänt!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 02 2012 20:51 GMT
#106
I just noticed that in his introduction to your speedruns on the SDA homepage,
On February 29, 2012, dex wrote:
Sticking with the 'PC classic' theme, we have a bunch of improvements in the individual-levels table of Starcraft. And by 'bunch', I mean that a person going only by the name of 'Freezard' decided to improve every single one, save for Terran 03 for some reason. Curious decision nonwithstanding, Freezard's considerable contributions combine to chop 45 minutes off the clock, yielding a total time of 2:28:55. It remains to be seen whether the last level to remain standing will also be conquered by him - I sure look forward to that happening. Complete destructions of IL tables are always impressive.
Apparently he doesn't realize that that mission is to survive for a set length of time, and so is presumably unimprovable.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
March 02 2012 21:59 GMT
#107
Freezard you are awesome
ggaemo fan
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
March 02 2012 22:02 GMT
#108
On March 03 2012 05:51 qrs wrote:
I just noticed that in his introduction to your speedruns on the SDA homepage,
Show nested quote +
On February 29, 2012, dex wrote:
Sticking with the 'PC classic' theme, we have a bunch of improvements in the individual-levels table of Starcraft. And by 'bunch', I mean that a person going only by the name of 'Freezard' decided to improve every single one, save for Terran 03 for some reason. Curious decision nonwithstanding, Freezard's considerable contributions combine to chop 45 minutes off the clock, yielding a total time of 2:28:55. It remains to be seen whether the last level to remain standing will also be conquered by him - I sure look forward to that happening. Complete destructions of IL tables are always impressive.
Apparently he doesn't realize that that mission is to survive for a set length of time, and so is presumably unimprovable.


I think you underestimate speedrunners.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 02 2012 22:04 GMT
#109
On March 03 2012 07:02 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 05:51 qrs wrote:
I just noticed that in his introduction to your speedruns on the SDA homepage,
On February 29, 2012, dex wrote:
Sticking with the 'PC classic' theme, we have a bunch of improvements in the individual-levels table of Starcraft. And by 'bunch', I mean that a person going only by the name of 'Freezard' decided to improve every single one, save for Terran 03 for some reason. Curious decision nonwithstanding, Freezard's considerable contributions combine to chop 45 minutes off the clock, yielding a total time of 2:28:55. It remains to be seen whether the last level to remain standing will also be conquered by him - I sure look forward to that happening. Complete destructions of IL tables are always impressive.
Apparently he doesn't realize that that mission is to survive for a set length of time, and so is presumably unimprovable.


I think you underestimate speedrunners.

I'm pretty sure you can't do better than what has already been done by the original runner.
Congrats, really deserved, and hope to see bw up there soon =)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
March 02 2012 23:32 GMT
#110
Yeah, beating T03 would require finding a trick to skip the fixed countdown... which would be pretty badass. I've been trying some things but haven't found anything to abuse. I did tie the record by playing the mission normally (meaning being afk for 18 minutes) but that's about it.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 07 2012 05:53 GMT
#111
So, I'm starting to watch your videos, Freezard; also comparing with the old records that you demolished, to appreciate how you did it. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you something: in the Terran 00 mission (tutorial), was the micro trick that you mention discovering the one marine standing next to the refinery? Also, was the arrangement of marines around the command center at the beginning just for fun, or did that somehow help the pathing of the SCVs as well?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
March 07 2012 05:58 GMT
#112
Freezard you are insane LOL. Some of these tricks just have my jaws on the ground, god damn lmao, insane stuff
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
March 07 2012 06:28 GMT
#113
Nice work! I would like to see a speed run done of the new SC2 Master custom game. It took me 6 hours to beat it and a good chunk of time on the banshee level alone, but I saw a friend of mine do the banshee one on the first try. If someone could do all 30 on the first try, that'd be amazing....
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
March 07 2012 09:31 GMT
#114
I´ve said it before and im going to say it again: Ridiculously entertaining and well done !
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
March 07 2012 10:37 GMT
#115
loved these :D
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
March 07 2012 10:59 GMT
#116
On March 07 2012 14:53 qrs wrote:
So, I'm starting to watch your videos, Freezard; also comparing with the old records that you demolished, to appreciate how you did it. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you something: in the Terran 00 mission (tutorial), was the micro trick that you mention discovering the one marine standing next to the refinery? Also, was the arrangement of marines around the command center at the beginning just for fun, or did that somehow help the pathing of the SCVs as well?

Hey... glad you like em! The trick on T00 is that I manually press return cargo for each SCV which makes them head for the refinery immediately after returning the gas - normally they would idle for a while before returning. That marine needs to stand there for the trick to work as it manipulates the pathing. The marines around the CC forces the fourth SCV to spawn right next to the mineral patch.

Should really have mentioned those things in the comments... well, I actually did, but in older runs that never got published on SDA. That's why I mention 'my previous run' in some of the comments... oh well.

On March 07 2012 15:28 Warlock40 wrote:
Nice work! I would like to see a speed run done of the new SC2 Master custom game. It took me 6 hours to beat it and a good chunk of time on the banshee level alone, but I saw a friend of mine do the banshee one on the first try. If someone could do all 30 on the first try, that'd be amazing....

I didn't even know about that mod before I read your post... but then again I haven't played SC2 since last summer Anyways I've tried it out and it was fun, not something I would speedrun but will definitely try to beat it one day
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
March 07 2012 14:43 GMT
#117
Very impressive and fun to see some hardcore speed runs. I haven't done that sicne I was a kid playing Golden Eye on Nintendo 64
For the swarm
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 07 2012 16:19 GMT
#118
On March 07 2012 19:59 Freezard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 14:53 qrs wrote:
So, I'm starting to watch your videos, Freezard; also comparing with the old records that you demolished, to appreciate how you did it. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you something: in the Terran 00 mission (tutorial), was the micro trick that you mention discovering the one marine standing next to the refinery? Also, was the arrangement of marines around the command center at the beginning just for fun, or did that somehow help the pathing of the SCVs as well?

Hey... glad you like em! The trick on T00 is that I manually press return cargo for each SCV which makes them head for the refinery immediately after returning the gas - normally they would idle for a while before returning. That marine needs to stand there for the trick to work as it manipulates the pathing. The marines around the CC forces the fourth SCV to spawn right next to the mineral patch.

Should really have mentioned those things in the comments... well, I actually did, but in older runs that never got published on SDA. That's why I mention 'my previous run' in some of the comments... oh well.
Thanks for explaining. OK, another question: in T05 (Revolution), you say that the Goliaths are set to target Marines with low health, but wouldn't this be an advantage, if the low-health marines are kept to the back of the pack and the Goliaths don't shoot until they get within range of them? Maybe you only meant that they select among in-range targets on the basis of lowest health, but I thought I saw goliaths moving without shooting when I watched the VOD.

Also, when you say, "the economic part of this run was very ineffective. Better planning is needed to reach sub-5 minutes," I assume that by "economic part" you're referring not only to gathering resources but also to producing units and ferrying them to the battlefield; right?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 18:29:58
March 07 2012 18:02 GMT
#119
OK, I've gotten through T06 now, and I have to say that so far this is my favorite of your runs. T02 was fairly slick, with some very nice usage of spider mines, but T06 was—wow. Destroying your own bunkers to make space for buildings was brilliant. I also liked how you didn't bother taking Raynor through the air but just ran straight through by ground (a crucial move because it let you build the starports on the other side).

I also liked how you optimized even the little things. The SCV near the NORAD II baiting out the zerglings near the beginning so you wouldn't have to waste time killing them later on was a nice touch. I also liked the parsimony of repairing Raynor just enough to be sure he'd survive until dropships arrived and no more than that. Finally, the master touch: when building the factory and the high-ground starport, first you ordered the builders to build a barracks and canceled that order; only then did you start the building that you actually wanted. I had no idea what the motivation behind this was until I watched those scenes again carefully and thought about what you were doing. I believe your goal was to move the SCV and/or your cursor to the exact spot of buildable terrain where they needed to be to make the buildings as soon as the resources came in, thus squeezing out an extra second or two of movement time. If I'm right about that last, I take my hat off to you Freezard. That level of planning and commitment deserves recognition.

Edit: T07: Clever of you to figure out that the top route was a tiny bit faster and that you could use Kerrigan to tank for the SCV to make up for the extra time it takes to get a defensive matrix on it. I don't see how this one could be improved. (I saw that the verifiers' comments and yours for this mission remarked the SCV getting stuck behind Kerrigan at the beginning, but you seem to have fixed that in the version that was uploaded, though the "official" time at the end was still 00:26.)

T08: Haven't watched this yet, but when I do, I'll watch the version on your YouTube channel, which beats the version on SDA by 49 seconds. Why not submit the newer version to SDA?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
March 07 2012 18:07 GMT
#120
On March 07 2012 23:43 Gene(S)is wrote:
Very impressive and fun to see some hardcore speed runs. I haven't done that sicne I was a kid playing Golden Eye on Nintendo 64

I'd like to see some SC64 speedruns as I've never played or seen it. How many actions per minute could one possibly do with an N64 controller?
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