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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
November 27 2011 01:35 GMT
#381
On November 27 2011 08:36 mtvacuum wrote:
was there some big news thing about Kal that I missed? I made him my captain but apparently he isn't even allowed to play yet, so did I just waste 4 points...


yea i had kal on my team too but it looks like he is still in basic training :\. he's on the roster so he may be showing up on the lineup before the round ends, but i still wish I picked someone else :\. very misleading team roster
Free Palestine
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:45:59
November 27 2011 01:39 GMT
#382
Incidentally, I chose Airforce Ace as my team, and I chose Kal as one of my anti-team players. Initially I did not realize the conflict specifically regarding team wins, and anti-team scoring (I have firebathero on my main team). Can it be anticipated that this conflict will be a significant issue, or a have a detrimental effect on my over all points standing, and is it a decidedly suboptimal strategic decision (in the specific case of Airforce Ace, and Kal) ? Events pending of course, but would it be likely beneficial and worth the cost (trade tax, trading for higher point player) to trade Kal for someone else on a team besides Airforce Ace?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 27 2011 01:47 GMT
#383
Crap, if you waited too long can you not make a team anymore?
you gotta dance
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
November 27 2011 01:56 GMT
#384
Lets see..
Flash +1lineup, +2 win
BeSt +1lineup, +2win, +1team win
Perfective: +1lineup
Main team: 8

Team8: -1 point

Anti-Team
Action: +1 point for loss
ggaemo: -2point for win, -1 point for team win

Anti Team: -2 points

Total: 5 points. Damn you ggaemo!!
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 02:41:22
November 27 2011 02:33 GMT
#385
ggaemo is -4, +1 point for lineup appearance and also a hilariously risky anti-team pick, why would you do that
action is 0 points, 1 for lineup and -1 for loss
the last wcs commissioner
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 02:41:01
November 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#386
7 points so far from ACE/great/FBH
Killer whiffed
Anti-team whiffed or lost, a cool -0 points

Leaves me with:
Light
Effort
Jangbi

Predicting a +15 this week, which I'm ok with.
the last wcs commissioner
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
November 27 2011 02:56 GMT
#387
On November 27 2011 10:39 miercat wrote:
Incidentally, I chose Airforce Ace as my team, and I chose Kal as one of my anti-team players. Initially I did not realize the conflict specifically regarding team wins, and anti-team scoring (I have firebathero on my main team). Can it be anticipated that this conflict will be a significant issue, or a have a detrimental effect on my over all points standing, and is it a decidedly suboptimal strategic decision (in the specific case of Airforce Ace, and Kal) ? Events pending of course, but would it be likely beneficial and worth the cost (trade tax, trading for higher point player) to trade Kal for someone else on a team besides Airforce Ace?


Basically each time Ace wins a match, Kal gains +1 point regardless of him playing(which may increase his points if he wins) or not, thus reducing your overall score by 1.

If you do not intend to trade your anti team in the future, you just have to hope Kal doesn't play for Ace(+1 only in the best case). In general, it doesn't really matter whether you have players in your main and anti from the same team, since the best case for Anti-team is having a player that

1) is a high pointer
2) doesn't play often
3) is slumping badly
4) his team doesn't win often

Of course there's no such players with these 4 attributes, but the least you can do is find one that have as much as these attributes if possible.
(´・ω・`)
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 27 2011 04:12 GMT
#388
On November 27 2011 10:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Crap, if you waited too long can you not make a team anymore?

^ this question as well.

. Watching a match makes me want to participate D:
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
November 27 2011 04:17 GMT
#389
Effort is such a steal :p

Bought him for 5 points, he gave me 10 :D
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 27 2011 04:23 GMT
#390
On November 27 2011 10:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Crap, if you waited too long can you not make a team anymore?


ya signups are over
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
November 27 2011 04:30 GMT
#391
I figured ggaemo would usually lose of see less play for ACE, a team that is going to struggle against most of these more concentrated teams. On the other hand, I decided to take Kal at a bargain and hope his frequent play time would make him worth it. That hasn't turned out so well. Still, samsung can give me the boost I need if they play turn and shine for the win.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 04:41:45
November 27 2011 04:40 GMT
#392
BeSt +1 lineup +2 win
FBH +1 lineup +2 win + 1 team-win
Great +1 lineup -1 loss + 1 team-win
Fantasy +1 lineup
Leta +1 lineup +2 win
Effort +1 lineup +2 win
ACE +1 win

Anti: free, Crazy-hydra, Killer not playing

total +16, think Im off to a great start. might even better had I picked GGaemo instead of great

edit: goddamn free is playing atm. plz lose :p
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
November 27 2011 04:59 GMT
#393
On November 27 2011 13:40 Arceus wrote:
BeSt +1 lineup +2 win
FBH +1 lineup +2 win + 1 team-win
Great +1 lineup -1 loss + 1 team-win
Fantasy +1 lineup
Leta +1 lineup +2 win
Effort +1 lineup +2 win
ACE +1 win

Anti: free, Crazy-hydra, Killer not playing

total +16, think Im off to a great start. might even better had I picked GGaemo instead of great

edit: goddamn free is playing atm. plz lose :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Doesn't Leta and effort get +1 for team win also?
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 27 2011 06:03 GMT
#394
+ Show Spoiler +
Free is the next RORO rofl

and 95 ppl still hasnt learn their lesson,perhaps they are the new victims
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 06:14:45
November 27 2011 06:13 GMT
#395
On November 27 2011 11:56 sinistral wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 27 2011 10:39 miercat wrote:
Incidentally, I chose Airforce Ace as my team, and I chose Kal as one of my anti-team players. Initially I did not realize the conflict specifically regarding team wins, and anti-team scoring (I have firebathero on my main team). Can it be anticipated that this conflict will be a significant issue, or a have a detrimental effect on my over all points standing, and is it a decidedly suboptimal strategic decision (in the specific case of Airforce Ace, and Kal) ? Events pending of course, but would it be likely beneficial and worth the cost (trade tax, trading for higher point player) to trade Kal for someone else on a team besides Airforce Ace?



Basically each time Ace wins a match, Kal gains +1 point regardless of him playing(which may increase his points if he wins) or not, thus reducing your overall score by 1.

If you do not intend to trade your anti team in the future, you just have to hope Kal doesn't play for Ace(+1 only in the best case). In general, it doesn't really matter whether you have players in your main and anti from the same team, since the best case for Anti-team is having a player that

1) is a high pointer
2) doesn't play often
3) is slumping badly
4) his team doesn't win often

Of course there's no such players with these 4 attributes, but the least you can do is find one that have as much as these attributes if possible.


Thanks for the response, the 4 criteria you listed were informative.

Additionally, I was wondering: because I chose Airforce Ace as my team, and I have Kal on my anti-team, every time Ace wins a match (I will gain x points), Kal will automatically get +1 for being on the winning team ( I will lose 1 point in the overall standing). Due to this effect, was it a disadvantageous decision to include Kal in the anti-team?
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1361 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 06:24:14
November 27 2011 06:20 GMT
#396
On November 27 2011 15:13 miercat wrote:
Additionally, I was wondering: because I chose Airforce Ace as my team, and I have Kal on my anti-team, every time Ace wins a match (I will gain x points), Kal will automatically get +1 for being on the winning team ( I will lose 1 point in the overall standing). Due to this effect, was it a disadvantageous decision to include Kal in the anti-team?


Not really, your just essentially hedging your bets. FPL is a fairly messy affair, eg the winner in the end rarely has anywhere near as many points as was possible even without trades, so the 'optimised' teams that bet on a few specific players, or a team to carry your entire fpl rarely do well. Usually some measure of balance is needed anyway.

eg If ace does well, but Kal doesn't. Then sure, will grab some team win points, but he still may be a good deal from his cost-points ratio. And if ace and Kal both do really poorly, then at least ace was cheap and you have a very good anti team pick.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 27 2011 06:53 GMT
#397
+14 for the week, not a bad start
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
November 27 2011 06:59 GMT
#398
I should have +13 after antiteam.
+ Show Spoiler [samsung vs WJN] +
goddamn reality, shy had that game. -_-
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 27 2011 06:59 GMT
#399
+ Show Spoiler +
muahahah Free

MUAHHAAHA

lol, 273 people.
WriterXiao8~~
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 27 2011 07:06 GMT
#400
On November 27 2011 15:59 Kipsate wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
muahahah Free

MUAHHAAHA

lol, 273 people.

It's great. Basically the rest of us gained 4 points relatively.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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