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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 19 2011 05:34 GMT
#461
They should have kept the ace match, although maybe with some limitations. Maybe something like:

- Each player has like 2 Ace cards, so overall they can be sent only 2 times as the ace. That way you ensure that no team would be able to send the same 1-2 players all the time.

- So if from 21 games, let´s say you get to the ace match in 6 of them, you make sure that at least there is a 3 player rotation. If you get to the Ace match every game, it forbids you from abusing your JD, Flash, Bisu, etc. so it makes you develop your depth. If you get few Ace matches, it probably means you are a deep team, but still you can have your usual starter Ace only twice, so if you get to your 3rd Ace match, you need to use someone else.

It could bring up interesting scenarios, like for example KT facing Samsung, and KT coach thinking: "Do I send Action, because I want to save Stats and Flash(who have been used once already) for later in the proleague in case we end up ACE matching with CJ or Super8?".

Sending Action, who is not bad himself, but not as a safe bet as Flash or even Stats, could still bring the victory home, but I am taking a bigger risk here. So what to do? I could lose this Ace match and lose the game for saving Flash and Stats, but maybe he faces CJ and wins 3-0 and no need for an Ace, so he wasted Flash saving him for an Ace match that never happened, and he probably would've won with Flash as the Ace vs Samsung.

But anyways, the format is already decided so...
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
November 19 2011 06:53 GMT
#462
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50364 Posts
November 19 2011 07:00 GMT
#463
On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games


KT is a much more balanced team now, we'll do fine without the need of throwing Flash twice.
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zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
November 19 2011 07:01 GMT
#464
On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games

Probably shivering in his blankets while eating ice cream.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 19 2011 07:16 GMT
#465
On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games


I notice the T1 tag, then I notice the irony.
Remember Violet.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
November 19 2011 07:26 GMT
#466
On November 19 2011 16:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games


KT is a much more balanced team now, we'll do fine without the need of throwing Flash twice.


Yeah, especially with the new mind pick-up.

Flash, Stats, Action, Mind, Crazy-Hydra looks like a really solid, good team tbh.
Too bad most of them are inconsistent lol
wat
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
November 19 2011 08:20 GMT
#467
Aw, they should have kept the Bo7 though

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to the new season.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51478 Posts
November 19 2011 08:27 GMT
#468
Anyone know what '온게임넷 스타크래프트2 50일간의 기록' was on OGN this weekend at the timeslot Proleague is?
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 19 2011 08:44 GMT
#469
On November 19 2011 16:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games


KT is a much more balanced team now, we'll do fine without the need of throwing Flash twice.


On November 19 2011 16:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On November 19 2011 15:53 wassbix wrote:
KT coach sweating bullets now that he can't just insta-slam Flash into the booth twice for a win and now actually has to plan and stuff for each games


I notice the T1 tag, then I notice the irony.


Sending flash as the ace for the ace match is of course a very logical match up , If KT had mind instead of flash supporting the team , They would have send mind for the ace matchup too , because he is a solid terran . So I don't understand the hate and all the predicting doom coming from skt1 bench and kt hate war mongers .

Look you can predict all you want but proleague hasn't start yet , Mind is a solid contender and I don't see Stats backing down from unleashing his random protoss *cannot win * skill like many people are speculating him to be . Crazy hydra and Action is a red herring and a hidden ace , If they are to perform nicely these year proleague , Sending them would be good and since it's a bo5 these year Wooki has the chance to show his talent too and our rookies barrack and perfective .

Do we really need ace match to win these year proleague these year ? Considering that Flash can win a single match up , It's already an advantage , Our Coach may not have the lime light like Coach Park , Coach Cho . However to think that he doesn't have any managerial skill at all , it's unacceptable , have you ever been to the kt training house ? have you experience yourself ? .

It's easy to see from the outlook that , kt strategy is to send flash twice to win , and any reasonable coach would have done the same thing . That doesn't mean Coach lee , isn't doing his job as a coach by predicting line up's and setting up snipers to get the advantage .


BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
November 19 2011 08:52 GMT
#470
Don't think KT will have problems with the new line up, it is just bo5 now, remember this. They only need to wins to force the ACE match with Flash, and they can easily get 2 wins with Stats, Action, Mind, Barracks, etc. I think we will get less chances to see the ace players of each team, if the coach saves them for the ace match. Team like SKT1, KT, CJ etc. can win 3 games without the ace players.
hakha
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia87 Posts
November 19 2011 10:20 GMT
#471
On November 19 2011 17:52 jaQi wrote:
Don't think KT will have problems with the new line up, it is just bo5 now, remember this. They only need to wins to force the ACE match with Flash, and they can easily get 2 wins with Stats, Action, Mind, Barracks, etc. I think we will get less chances to see the ace players of each team, if the coach saves them for the ace match. Team like SKT1, KT, CJ etc. can win 3 games without the ace players.


There arent any more ACE matches. u might want to re-read the first post.
hence all the t1 fanboys saying that KT is screwed now.....which i honestly dont believe. they took most of the Bo7's in PO without resorting to ace matches....
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
November 19 2011 13:00 GMT
#472
On November 19 2011 19:20 hakha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 17:52 jaQi wrote:
Don't think KT will have problems with the new line up, it is just bo5 now, remember this. They only need to wins to force the ACE match with Flash, and they can easily get 2 wins with Stats, Action, Mind, Barracks, etc. I think we will get less chances to see the ace players of each team, if the coach saves them for the ace match. Team like SKT1, KT, CJ etc. can win 3 games without the ace players.


There arent any more ACE matches. u might want to re-read the first post.
hence all the t1 fanboys saying that KT is screwed now.....which i honestly dont believe. they took most of the Bo7's in PO without resorting to ace matches....


Oh yea, sorry I did not had my senses together, there is no ace match anymore

Still, I don't think KT is screwed, SKT1 should be more afraid since they don't have any real addition.
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
November 19 2011 13:50 GMT
#473
I'll miss the Ace Match, but now the great players will be in high stakes games pretty much all the time now. So awesome.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2047 Posts
November 19 2011 14:19 GMT
#474
The format feels like Bo6 to me, somehow. Somewhere in between Bo5 and Bo7. Oh, well let's give this a shot!
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 16:40:31
November 19 2011 15:20 GMT
#475
On November 19 2011 22:00 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 19:20 hakha wrote:
On November 19 2011 17:52 jaQi wrote:
Don't think KT will have problems with the new line up, it is just bo5 now, remember this. They only need to wins to force the ACE match with Flash, and they can easily get 2 wins with Stats, Action, Mind, Barracks, etc. I think we will get less chances to see the ace players of each team, if the coach saves them for the ace match. Team like SKT1, KT, CJ etc. can win 3 games without the ace players.


There arent any more ACE matches. u might want to re-read the first post.
hence all the t1 fanboys saying that KT is screwed now.....which i honestly dont believe. they took most of the Bo7's in PO without resorting to ace matches....


Oh yea, sorry I did not had my senses together, there is no ace match anymore

Still, I don't think KT is screwed, SKT1 should be more afraid since they don't have any real addition.


SKT always had 3 'free wins' last season, the real problem was getting the closing 4th, The only worrying thing is that everybody else is stacked too yeah, but for the time being you can't say anybody but ACE and poor STX is losing sleep over this.
(even though the drafting makes it seem like we didn't expect this and went for a deeper Zerg lineup, which is now basically worthless, or SKT gonna win sending 4 zergs now? trolol)
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
November 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#476
I don't see why they couldn't just do a Grand Finals with the winners of the two half-leagues

(or aggregate performance over the two to find a second place if one team won both)
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
November 19 2011 18:59 GMT
#477
On November 20 2011 03:13 hauton wrote:
I don't see why they couldn't just do a Grand Finals with the winners of the two half-leagues

(or aggregate performance over the two to find a second place if one team won both)

Still scratching myself in the head with this part.

There's only one possible explanation, but even that explanation is even 'meh'
ppp
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 19 2011 22:15 GMT
#478
hmmmm. How will this allow knew players to play more?
in b07 w/ace, KT needs 3 wins in 5 matches (flash gets 1) and they can test a player.
in bo5 w/o ace, KT needs 2 wins in 3 matches (no flash) to test a player. Otherwise, they have to play flash to prevent losing, and the last match needs to be a good player to win the set.
☺
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
November 19 2011 23:34 GMT
#479
They should have the winners of each season play each other in the grand grand finals xd
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
November 19 2011 23:55 GMT
#480
This could actually get me interested in watching proleague again. During the bo7's I just cared about the results.
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