On May 23 2005 11:10 8882 wrote: lol, you are the one challenging, but when someone actually agrees to play vs you, you say that you have work. it's a good way of dodging, you will never play anyone and most people will forget about the challenge, but (in short-term) some people will think that you actually might me good.
I dont play on west server, but mostly europe server. I probably wont be on today, unless we set the time. You can play me on thursday, friday and saturday. I will probably be free then.
Im pretty sure I can defeat you zvp 10:0 if I choose the map.
You play anything besides starcraft? I bet I can own you if we play domino!!! That's a good excuse, if I lose on blood bath. That's also your way of debating.
I like your attitude, it's full of hidden hatered ("you play anything besides BB?")
Only person who challanged me was Bloodbath during the day when I work. I offered to play him over the weekend but he said he couldnt. Where's the "dodge" in that? Your comparison to Dominos and BB has no logic. Bloodbath is a map, dominos is a completely different game.
Ok, list 3 TLT maps and we will play a BO3 PvZ. What time will you be available Saturday. I'm sure you will 3-0 me since you have no doubt you can 10-0 me without even seeing me play once.
why do you want me to play on TLT maps vs you, when this is a thread about blood bath (and we were discussing blood bath strategies)? so why won't we play domino?
really, I dont know what to write after reading your post...
and why will we play pvz, if you are making comments about pvt and zvt in this thread... I dont know I would really like to see your scv attack and micro pvt.
On May 23 2005 14:04 MVP[eV] wrote: You said you can own me 10:0 zvp but now you dodge? gg idiot go back to Blizzforums.
oh, yes, I can own you 10:0 zvp on the map I choose
still I would prefer to play blood bath to see your magic scv rush and: zvp, tvp, tvz
and why wont we play domino, you wanna lose pvz vs me (on the map I choose ) or play TLT maps, which dont have much to do with the discussion why are you flaming?
who cares which of you can beat eachother on a TLT map of 8882's choice or on BB? post what you think, and if you disagree, then that's that. maybe if you guys play enough we could find out which is a better player which kind of helps us decide who to believe more, but it doesn't ever prove which strategy is wrong because more than strategy can decide the outcome of a match.
i think some of the things MVP said are kind of right. toss and zerg have to try to gain an advantage before terran gets it by default. in that respect, it's kind of a "rush" game. but it depends on what you mean by rush. zerg don't have to win with zerglings vs terran, but they have to slow the terran down while they get something ready for terran's attack (i would assume speedling/lurker). terran playing safely could be very hard to beat for a zerg. the zerg must gain advantages every step of the way to keep things "even", but that doesn't mean the matchup is unfair. it is, at least though, very different.
t v p is similar, so i think what MVP was trying to get at, even if he was misunderstood, is kind of right. toss should two gate zeal and try to get photons on a terran. terran can fight with two rax and scvs. it's a fair, fun, micro game as far as i can tell. and either side can get tech, depending on who is winning the early game. toss could be bunker pushed if they fail hard enough. terran could be destroyed by goons if they don't gain enough. so if you consider killing terran with zeal/photon (with goon if it comes to that) "rush" then okay, i can see that. but if you don't consider that "rush" i can see that too. i think if you guys gave eachother the benefit of the doubt you would find you mostly agree with eachother and are just trying hard to strengthen your minor disagreements that may be more a matter of style or taste when it comes to defining certain subjective terms.
MVP you should concede that talking about your weekend friends instead of going through with a bloodbath challenge that you made looks like dodging. and 8882 said he believes he could 10-0 you on a TLT map of his choice in zvp. i don't see him backing out of that really. set it up if you guys want. i'm sure you will have time to game within a week or two, right? but you should back up your challenge and play him on Bloodbath first, since that is the whole disagreement anyways. wouldn't you like to convince him that you're right about worker rushes and terran? i think you both would like to see that, so find the time and quit bitching at eachother.
well said lobcoated, but zeo/canon rush will never work on any of us here, or at least it shouldn't. I think if you can't handle every kind of (hate to use this gay word) "cheese" rush on bb you shouldn't be talking here. Whenever I see my opponent trying something fast I know im going to win.
you could be right about that bloodbath; i am undecided on that in my own experience. i'm unsure whether zeal/photon is at least an even exchange against terran when done properly and in response to the right kind of terran. if a terran is trying to 1 rax then is it okay to zeal/photon? or is it better to just get goons quickly in that case? do you mean that a good terran knows he has to 2 rax or hold his bridge early in order to prevent the zeal/photon pressure? i can see that
i just love bloodbath and the micro based all u know.. just love to learn new faster/safer/gosuer builds and tacticks. harashment is also so nice doing correctly =)
zeal canon wont work on any terran as long as he has built a few marines and knows how to use scv to battle. range goons , speed zeals , whatever just never this strat unless you are just having fun crushing newbies
I have really huge files of First person videos of me playing on bloodbath,I have a very good game ZvT. Anyone who has aim or whatever I can send it to you, unless you know a place to host a 130k video?
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