Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.

neobowman

Canada3324 Posts

September 27 2011 19:58 GMT

#41

Sponsors is great news.

Kespa management... I have a bad feeling about it.

Rodiel3

France1158 Posts

September 27 2011 20:01 GMT

#42

On September 28 2011 04:37 Black Gun wrote:
as much as i would like to take this as good news, i cant fight the gut feeling of mine that this sounds like a government taking over control of a bankrupt company.

Korea governement directly move to protect their game/cultur, seem good to me, their a lot of thing that are not profitable and need to be defended

FeyFey

Germany10114 Posts

September 27 2011 20:02 GMT

#43

its scary what kespa does sometimes ... well most times it is. But i guess that is one way to keep teams from disbanding. Still scared of the direct management and possibility of moving pros around the teams.
But nevertheless its good for the bw scene, atleast in the short run.

Thurokiir

United States779 Posts

September 27 2011 20:02 GMT

#44

On September 28 2011 04:35 Chill wrote:
So the players' association also manages the players? That's strange to say the least.

Agreed - that's really worrying especially for newer recruits that are up and coming that don't know how the contract scene goes.

Kespa probs going to keep player salaries down to make the teams a better investment for the corporations involved.

I have a hard time figuring out what else it could be, managers handle salary and career moves, and the career moves have been taken care of. Why would kespa be holding onto a managerial position? O_O

eton7410

Canada261 Posts

September 27 2011 20:03 GMT

#45

I dont know exactly what the team management means, I just translate it from chinese webstie. But apparently ,they have been discussing about this team management on korean BBS webstie already. I think it will still be the same team and coach, but instead of teams under companies' name, it will be under Kespa's name. So, like companies-Kespa-teams instead of companies-teams, Kespa will be like the middle man. Don't know how much difference that is going to make, but I think it would definitely be better if all the teams are under one organization's control.

Taekwon

United States8155 Posts

September 27 2011 20:04 GMT

#46

OH HELL YEAH.

United States6173 Posts

September 27 2011 20:07 GMT

#47

To everyone who's wondering...the article means exactly what it says.

KeSPA will be managing all the teams. They'll be taking care of the teams. That means logistical stuff, like talking with sponsors, contract stuff, finances, etc.

Stuff like who the teams actually send on stage for Proleague will still be handled by the players and coaching staff...

GertHeart

United States631 Posts

September 27 2011 20:09 GMT

#48

A report like this is never good =/, just seems sugar coated. Hopefully it's true but I feel it's doubtful.

For those who don't understand, look at this from a business perspective. It looks like they are trying to siphon everything they can from the league right now, if I'm right you'll see more reports like when BW was thriving back in the day or worse, even more than back then.

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts

September 27 2011 20:09 GMT

#49

I'm having mixed feelings here.....

But as long as BW can stay alive and strive, I'll take this as good news

Soap

Brazil1546 Posts

September 27 2011 20:14 GMT

#50

The problem with sponsors is not really the money, a million dollars or so is a drop in the bucket for some of the largest conglomerates in the world. It's about committing their brand name, so who makes the call needs to trust a manager/coach to build a working team and not a scandal, and you can imagine that's not very common. That's why Boxer is thrown half a million dollars to build a team for a completely new game while others struggle for survival.

A organization like KeSPA is essencial to a strong scene and it's amazing they are receiving that vote of confidence.

BrodiaQ

United States892 Posts

September 27 2011 20:19 GMT

#51

Hopefully Kespa taking control will stabilize the scene and maybe even make it grow with the new teams coming in.

Though Kespa having more power leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm probably just too suspicious but Kespa makes me angry with some of their policies.

Gorsameth

Netherlands22628 Posts

September 27 2011 20:20 GMT

#52

What kespa means is that they will own the team. Not manage it.
They will not decide which team buys which player. who plays on which map.
But by owning the team they cant be disbanded, that way the current problems cant happen again.
A Team might lose there sponsor, but the team will never go away.

Xiphos

Canada7507 Posts

September 27 2011 20:24 GMT

#53

Now please god if you love all of us, don't make MBC disband.

Yxes2211

United States1587 Posts

September 27 2011 20:24 GMT

#54

I'm worried if the new management system will conflict with the S-class players receiving the salary they are used to... :\

But who knows, I'm willing to see where this goes lol

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

September 27 2011 20:26 GMT

#55

The governing body of a league owning a team is nothing new. The NHL owns the Phoenix Coyotes and they don't get very much special treatment.

Hopefully we see another team that can compete emerge out of this. WEM, MBC, and Oz had so many holes to fill.

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

September 27 2011 20:32 GMT

#56

So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

September 27 2011 20:32 GMT

#57

I don't see any problem with kespa managing all the non gaming affairs for teams .

MoriyaGXP

Korea (South)240 Posts

September 27 2011 20:36 GMT

#58

i sense KeSPA is using a new method to make money.... and keep BW alive

deafhobbit

United States828 Posts

September 27 2011 20:36 GMT

#59

Yeah, i think you all are reading too much into Kespa "management." It sounds like it is to make things like transferring players and switching sponsors easier.

Yay BW.