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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 27 2011 21:18 GMT
#81
This looks like government take-over... oh well, I guess we'll still have the games, but this doesn't look too good for the future.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 27 2011 21:19 GMT
#82
i can imagine shady labor practices with kespa ownership. i doubt unions are as strong over there as they are over here.


MLS (major league soccer) operates the same way, it seems.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
September 27 2011 21:26 GMT
#83
So mixed, but mostly glad. KESPA isnt exactly flawless in my eyes (Disc for writing PP instead of PPP and such) but still nice with new sponsors and many teams!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
September 27 2011 21:31 GMT
#84
I have to admit. I like this.

With this comes more sability. Which means we won't see teams break apart anytime soon. KeSPA now can control things better and keep teams sponsored, so that we never have anothe rmonth of waiting to see if these teams will get sponsored or not. Its easier to keep the teams funded and together this way.
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
September 27 2011 21:35 GMT
#85
Great news. Thank god for this news i hope no team disbands because with less teams SKYNET will rule the BW world forever with his terminator Flash.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
September 27 2011 21:37 GMT
#86
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
September 27 2011 21:39 GMT
#87
Wow this actually gave me chills, as nerdy as that may sound. Awesome, so excited this wont be the end of BW. Just hope all the players and teams are satisfied with the new management. Should be interesting to see the player distribution and the new teams.
Nothing to it but to do it.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#88
On September 28 2011 06:37 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.


if this is the case that's good news; I'm still confused a bit about it (as most people surely are; guess we can wait and see more clarifications/how it works).

this should be featured news imo. But as for the "5-6" companies, are they looking for 1 or 2 to pull through or are those companies all chipping in some--i.e. instead of something like "samsung khan" it'll have to be something like Intel-Kia Fingerboom (with 2 major sponsors, but managed by Kespa).
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
September 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#89
I''m super happy, thos is great news, and Kespa saves the day!

I'm eager to see the new team (or 2 new teams?)

I will be a fan of Oz 2.0 for sure
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#90
On September 28 2011 06:42 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:37 b0lt wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.


if this is the case that's good news; I'm still confused a bit about it (as most people surely are; guess we can wait and see more clarifications/how it works).

this should be featured news imo. But as for the "5-6" companies, are they looking for 1 or 2 to pull through or are those companies all chipping in some--i.e. instead of something like "samsung khan" it'll have to be something like Intel-Kia Fingerboom (with 2 major sponsors, but managed by Kespa).


Keep in mind, many teams have more than one sponsor, even if it's not in thier names. Flash doesn't wear a Pocari Sweat patch because he likes it, he wears it because they sponsor KT (and SKT too, incidentally).
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:50:24
September 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#91
For the short term, it's definitely good that BW continues.

But this really can't be good for the long run / welfare of the players. Now, let's say someone like Bisu becomes free agent. Basically he can only get salary as kespa dictates it and not through supply and demand.

If Kespa orders SKT to lower his salary for example to maintain profitability, nothing Bisu can do because other teams won't make counter offer since they are all under Kespa. This system will always disadvantage the players in the long run.

Of course the alternative would be BW shrink and dies if Kespa doesn't step in and the players have no job anyway. But i really don't see things remaining this way in the long run.

Unless i am misunderstanding something.

Excited for the new teams though =)
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
September 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#92
Yay, another season for Bisu to dominate
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
September 27 2011 22:00 GMT
#93
Gonna suck seeing teammates split up, but this is better than players not having a team. Good shit Kespa (er......what?).
KT_Violet
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
September 27 2011 22:03 GMT
#94
Really really happy to see this! Awesome news!
Forever Vulture.. :(
This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
September 27 2011 22:05 GMT
#95
It will be easier for Kespa to manage, and players will be under the same management to preserve fairness, and as well as preventing match fixing and team disbanding.

So, one organization controlling all of the teams... that seems like it would make the potential for match fixing much, much higher. It's a huge conflict of interest.
aka Kasaaz
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#96
On September 28 2011 06:49 dtz wrote:
For the short term, it's definitely good that BW continues.

But this really can't be good for the long run / welfare of the players. Now, let's say someone like Bisu becomes free agent. Basically he can only get salary as kespa dictates it and not through supply and demand.

If Kespa orders SKT to lower his salary for example to maintain profitability, nothing Bisu can do because other teams won't make counter offer since they are all under Kespa. This system will always disadvantage the players in the long run.

Of course the alternative would be BW shrink and dies if Kespa doesn't step in and the players have no job anyway. But i really don't see things remaining this way in the long run.

Unless i am misunderstanding something.

Excited for the new teams though =)



Keep in mind that there are only 7 (excluding ace) bw teams in the world, so if Bisu isn't satisfied with his salary he could quit.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
September 27 2011 22:10 GMT
#97
This is fantastic news!

Still waiting to see where Jaehoon ends up
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 27 2011 22:12 GMT
#98
On September 28 2011 07:05 This is Aru wrote:
Show nested quote +
It will be easier for Kespa to manage, and players will be under the same management to preserve fairness, and as well as preventing match fixing and team disbanding.

So, one organization controlling all of the teams... that seems like it would make the potential for match fixing much, much higher. It's a huge conflict of interest.



How so? I don't think that Kespa would improve on this issue, but make things worse...
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#99
yay some good news. Long live bw
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#100
lol Kespa managing teams sounds terrible...

oh well, hopefully it works.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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