• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:58
CEST 22:58
KST 05:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid21
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2481 users

News from Kespa President - Page 5

Forum Index > BW General
482 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 23 24 25 Next All
Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 27 2011 21:18 GMT
#81
This looks like government take-over... oh well, I guess we'll still have the games, but this doesn't look too good for the future.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 27 2011 21:19 GMT
#82
i can imagine shady labor practices with kespa ownership. i doubt unions are as strong over there as they are over here.


MLS (major league soccer) operates the same way, it seems.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
September 27 2011 21:26 GMT
#83
So mixed, but mostly glad. KESPA isnt exactly flawless in my eyes (Disc for writing PP instead of PPP and such) but still nice with new sponsors and many teams!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
September 27 2011 21:31 GMT
#84
I have to admit. I like this.

With this comes more sability. Which means we won't see teams break apart anytime soon. KeSPA now can control things better and keep teams sponsored, so that we never have anothe rmonth of waiting to see if these teams will get sponsored or not. Its easier to keep the teams funded and together this way.
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
September 27 2011 21:35 GMT
#85
Great news. Thank god for this news i hope no team disbands because with less teams SKYNET will rule the BW world forever with his terminator Flash.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
September 27 2011 21:37 GMT
#86
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
September 27 2011 21:39 GMT
#87
Wow this actually gave me chills, as nerdy as that may sound. Awesome, so excited this wont be the end of BW. Just hope all the players and teams are satisfied with the new management. Should be interesting to see the player distribution and the new teams.
Nothing to it but to do it.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#88
On September 28 2011 06:37 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.


if this is the case that's good news; I'm still confused a bit about it (as most people surely are; guess we can wait and see more clarifications/how it works).

this should be featured news imo. But as for the "5-6" companies, are they looking for 1 or 2 to pull through or are those companies all chipping in some--i.e. instead of something like "samsung khan" it'll have to be something like Intel-Kia Fingerboom (with 2 major sponsors, but managed by Kespa).
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
September 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#89
I''m super happy, thos is great news, and Kespa saves the day!

I'm eager to see the new team (or 2 new teams?)

I will be a fan of Oz 2.0 for sure
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#90
On September 28 2011 06:42 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:37 b0lt wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


I think it's a lot more likely that the current sponsors will all stay the same. It seems like their goal is that if a sponsor pulls out (e.g. MBC), the team is managed by KeSPA, so if a new sponsor comes along, they can just rename the team to CNN Hero or whatever and have all of the management details stay the same, just with a different income source.


if this is the case that's good news; I'm still confused a bit about it (as most people surely are; guess we can wait and see more clarifications/how it works).

this should be featured news imo. But as for the "5-6" companies, are they looking for 1 or 2 to pull through or are those companies all chipping in some--i.e. instead of something like "samsung khan" it'll have to be something like Intel-Kia Fingerboom (with 2 major sponsors, but managed by Kespa).


Keep in mind, many teams have more than one sponsor, even if it's not in thier names. Flash doesn't wear a Pocari Sweat patch because he likes it, he wears it because they sponsor KT (and SKT too, incidentally).
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:50:24
September 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#91
For the short term, it's definitely good that BW continues.

But this really can't be good for the long run / welfare of the players. Now, let's say someone like Bisu becomes free agent. Basically he can only get salary as kespa dictates it and not through supply and demand.

If Kespa orders SKT to lower his salary for example to maintain profitability, nothing Bisu can do because other teams won't make counter offer since they are all under Kespa. This system will always disadvantage the players in the long run.

Of course the alternative would be BW shrink and dies if Kespa doesn't step in and the players have no job anyway. But i really don't see things remaining this way in the long run.

Unless i am misunderstanding something.

Excited for the new teams though =)
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
September 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#92
Yay, another season for Bisu to dominate
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
September 27 2011 22:00 GMT
#93
Gonna suck seeing teammates split up, but this is better than players not having a team. Good shit Kespa (er......what?).
KT_Violet
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
September 27 2011 22:03 GMT
#94
Really really happy to see this! Awesome news!
Forever Vulture.. :(
This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
September 27 2011 22:05 GMT
#95
It will be easier for Kespa to manage, and players will be under the same management to preserve fairness, and as well as preventing match fixing and team disbanding.

So, one organization controlling all of the teams... that seems like it would make the potential for match fixing much, much higher. It's a huge conflict of interest.
aka Kasaaz
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#96
On September 28 2011 06:49 dtz wrote:
For the short term, it's definitely good that BW continues.

But this really can't be good for the long run / welfare of the players. Now, let's say someone like Bisu becomes free agent. Basically he can only get salary as kespa dictates it and not through supply and demand.

If Kespa orders SKT to lower his salary for example to maintain profitability, nothing Bisu can do because other teams won't make counter offer since they are all under Kespa. This system will always disadvantage the players in the long run.

Of course the alternative would be BW shrink and dies if Kespa doesn't step in and the players have no job anyway. But i really don't see things remaining this way in the long run.

Unless i am misunderstanding something.

Excited for the new teams though =)



Keep in mind that there are only 7 (excluding ace) bw teams in the world, so if Bisu isn't satisfied with his salary he could quit.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
September 27 2011 22:10 GMT
#97
This is fantastic news!

Still waiting to see where Jaehoon ends up
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 27 2011 22:12 GMT
#98
On September 28 2011 07:05 This is Aru wrote:
Show nested quote +
It will be easier for Kespa to manage, and players will be under the same management to preserve fairness, and as well as preventing match fixing and team disbanding.

So, one organization controlling all of the teams... that seems like it would make the potential for match fixing much, much higher. It's a huge conflict of interest.



How so? I don't think that Kespa would improve on this issue, but make things worse...
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#99
yay some good news. Long live bw
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#100
lol Kespa managing teams sounds terrible...

oh well, hopefully it works.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 23 24 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group C
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
ZZZero.O221
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
16:00
Ro24 Group C
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 366
ROOTCatZ 57
BRAT_OK 56
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13602
ZZZero.O 221
Dewaltoss 122
KwarK 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever52
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 267
goblin17
Counter-Strike
fl0m3401
byalli442
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor327
Other Games
summit1g10012
tarik_tv3900
Grubby3607
gofns1674
FrodaN1234
hungrybox628
KnowMe176
C9.Mang0149
Hui .102
Mew2King46
Trikslyr32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick958
BasetradeTV285
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 24 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 87
• StrangeGG 85
• Hupsaiya 68
• musti20045 40
• Adnapsc2 15
• Response 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 39
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2683
• TFBlade1497
Other Games
• imaqtpie1054
• WagamamaTV384
• Scarra283
• Shiphtur213
• tFFMrPink 14
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
1h 2m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 2m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
14h 2m
Ladder Legends
18h 2m
IPSL
19h 2m
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
BSL
22h 2m
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.