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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
September 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#61
On September 28 2011 04:35 Chill wrote:
So the players' association also manages the players? That's strange to say the least.


I think Kespa is more like the NBA than they are the players' association. Don't think BW in Korea even has a players' union tbh. Especially since so many of the pro gamers are underage.
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
September 27 2011 20:43 GMT
#62
Hmm, glad that broodwar continues, but I don't understand how consolidating management of all teams would REDUCE the likelihood of risk of match fixing or other dishonesty/corruption, if anything it would just make easier to do.

._.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
duncan.mc
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
September 27 2011 20:45 GMT
#63
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


If that were the case, would teams lose the sponsor name in their team title? Is it no longer Samsung Khan, but just Khan?
djm858
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
September 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#64
Viva la Revolution!
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
September 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#65
The management things is interesting(and by that I mean very very Odd), however, good news for BW!
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 20:50:23
September 27 2011 20:49 GMT
#66
I am curious what the names of these teams will be!
good news, FINALLY :D

On September 28 2011 05:45 duncan.mc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


If that were the case, would teams lose the sponsor name in their team title? Is it no longer Samsung Khan, but just Khan?

Not a chance, then Samsung would have to stop sponsoring the team
In the woods, there lurks..
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 20:53:09
September 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#67
Nevertheless it is good to hear that oz, fox and hero players can relax a bit (sadly not all of them). And putting bias away it's not so bad to have 1-2 powerful teams instead of 3 punchbags.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
September 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#68
BW Lives on!!!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 20:56:37
September 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#69
Grey skies are clearing up Stop trying to find the dark side of everything, seriously why is this thread so negative. A month ago people were concerned we wouldn't be able to find a single sponsor, now we've got six companies showing interest. If you're weak in the worst of times you could at least show some strength when things are good...

Here's to another season of proleague.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 20:56:48
September 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#70
On September 28 2011 05:54 Chef wrote:
Grey skies are clearing up Stop trying to find the dark side of everything, seriously why is this thread so negative. A month ago people were concerned we wouldn't be able to find a single sponsor, now we've got four showing interest. If you're weak in the worst of times you could at least show some strength when things are good...

Here's to another season of proleague.


It is becoming tradition to be pissed off in preseason.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
gustavohmp
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil139 Posts
September 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#71
I think things will still the same.
Lets say KTR wants to increase Flash salary. Obviously they cant do it without asking the sponsors. Now, instead of asking the sponsors themselves, they go to Kespa, and Kespa goes to the sponsors.
Unless Kespa has a saying in how much they are going to increase Flash salary (in my example, obviously), I think Kespa management is a good thing.
KeSPA does drop the ball sometimes, and thats why we are afraid of it. But I think its for the best.
And it is fucking dope that they can assure that there will be 8 teams and the 2 teams WILL be formed. KeSPA power is no joke.
JangBi will go the finals.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:12:07
September 27 2011 20:59 GMT
#72
EDIT: Ok good.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
gustavohmp
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil139 Posts
September 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#73
On September 28 2011 05:59 tree.hugger wrote:
So they're going to split up the existing teams and redistribute the players? So if you were a fan of one particular team, now the players you were a fan of are going to be split amongst several teams?

Am I seriously reading that right, how does that make any sense?


The players of OZ and WMF will be split. The other teams are still the same.
JangBi will go the finals.
duncan.mc
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
September 27 2011 21:02 GMT
#74
On September 28 2011 05:49 Iplaythings wrote:
I am curious what the names of these teams will be!
good news, FINALLY :D

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:45 duncan.mc wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


If that were the case, would teams lose the sponsor name in their team title? Is it no longer Samsung Khan, but just Khan?

Not a chance, then Samsung would have to stop sponsoring the team


But my question is based on IF Zzoram's interpretation is correct, where companies don't sponsor teams directly. What if all 5-6 companies that KeSPA is talking to decide to sponsor but only 3 teams are added to make 8? Either someone's not getting their name up there or there's going to be some Microsoft/Coca-Cola Oz team name action going on.
Look at professional physical sports. Organizations like the NBA have official sponsors, but teams aren't named Gatorade Lakers or McDonald's Mavericks.

I imagine the sponsor names would stay too, I'm mainly just trying to figure out what this "KeSPA middle man" thing really means.
djm858
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:13:24
September 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#75
On September 28 2011 06:02 duncan.mc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 05:49 Iplaythings wrote:
I am curious what the names of these teams will be!
good news, FINALLY :D

On September 28 2011 05:45 duncan.mc wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


If that were the case, would teams lose the sponsor name in their team title? Is it no longer Samsung Khan, but just Khan?

Not a chance, then Samsung would have to stop sponsoring the team


But my question is based on IF Zzoram's interpretation is correct, where companies don't sponsor teams directly. What if all 5-6 companies that KeSPA is talking to decide to sponsor but only 3 teams are added to make 8? Either someone's not getting their name up there or there's going to be some Microsoft/Coca-Cola Oz team name action going on.
Look at professional physical sports. Organizations like the NBA have official sponsors, but teams aren't named Gatorade Lakers or McDonald's Mavericks.

I imagine the sponsor names would stay too, I'm mainly just trying to figure out what this "KeSPA middle man" thing really means.


FYI, it's pretty common in other parts of the world for professional sports teams to have their corporate sponsors in their names, especially in Asia.

Also, we have 7 teams currently (SKT, KT, CJ, Stars, Khan, STX, and Ace) so even if they only add 1 team there will be 8.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#76
BROOD WAR FOREVER

Hellll yeah, if we can get 9 teams that would be spectacular
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#77
So SKKespaT1, KT Kespa Rolster, CJ Kespa Entus? Samsung Kespa Khan?
Anyways, I hope that we'll get atleast 1 more team to get up to 9 teams in total.
Honestly I don't mind if Kespa reorganize all the players and make them switch teams to keep everything balanced.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
duncan.mc
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:13:36
September 27 2011 21:11 GMT
#78
On September 28 2011 06:08 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:02 duncan.mc wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:49 Iplaythings wrote:
I am curious what the names of these teams will be!
good news, FINALLY :D

On September 28 2011 05:45 duncan.mc wrote:
On September 28 2011 05:32 Zzoram wrote:
So basically, all sponsors will now sponsor KeSPA, and KeSPA will distribute funds out to all the teams? This ensures that if 1 sponsor backs out, a whole team doesn't have to disband as a result. It might also level of financial playing field between teams, by closing the gap in funds each team has available.

Maybe it'll also mean that trading players between teams will be easier as well.


If that were the case, would teams lose the sponsor name in their team title? Is it no longer Samsung Khan, but just Khan?

Not a chance, then Samsung would have to stop sponsoring the team


But my question is based on IF Zzoram's interpretation is correct, where companies don't sponsor teams directly. What if all 5-6 companies that KeSPA is talking to decide to sponsor but only 3 teams are added to make 8? Either someone's not getting their name up there or there's going to be some Microsoft/Coca-Cola Oz team name action going on.
Look at professional physical sports. Organizations like the NBA have official sponsors, but teams aren't named Gatorade Lakers or McDonald's Mavericks.

I imagine the sponsor names would stay too, I'm mainly just trying to figure out what this "KeSPA middle man" thing really means.


FYI, it's pretty common in other parts of the world for professional sports teams to have their corporate sponsors in their names, especially in Asia.


Cool, didn't know that. My experience is limited to American sports, Premier League soccer, and Olympics.

EDIT: Well, I guess NASCAR has it too.
djm858
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 27 2011 21:12 GMT
#79
Not sure about that last part but overall good news for BW
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 27 2011 21:15 GMT
#80
On September 28 2011 06:10 Xiphos wrote:
So SKKespaT1, KT Kespa Rolster, CJ Kespa Entus? Samsung Kespa Khan?
Anyways, I hope that we'll get atleast 1 more team to get up to 9 teams in total.
Honestly I don't mind if Kespa reorganize all the players and make them switch teams to keep everything balanced.


No, it just means Kespa is legally in charge of the teams. What it means is that Khan will still exist even if Samsung no longer sponsors it, and Kespa will be better positioned to find a new sponsor.
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