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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 18 2012 00:03 GMT
#161
or yust get Xfire, you can stream bw with it on jtv, you only wont be able to see the loby
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
March 18 2012 02:54 GMT
#162
I'm using H.264 already. I'm pretty sure my computer can handle it as I think upload is the choke point. If I change the sample rate, will I be able to put video up at 500 or is my upload rate going to cap it?
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#163
^^ If your video size goes up beyond your upload rate, the stream will start to stutter. You need some upload bandwidth to play the game too(i.e if your on iccup etc). So take about 128k for that(I'm guessing you might need this much atleast). And also take away minimum of 48k for music. X-176 is what you have available for the video.
If you sample above that it will probably skip.

Easiest thing to do , look at the required bandwidth in media encoder, make sure it doesnt go above your upload limit while including upload required for the game.
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 14:37:40
March 18 2012 14:33 GMT
#164
On March 18 2012 11:54 Falling wrote:
I'm using H.264 already. I'm pretty sure my computer can handle it as I think upload is the choke point. If I change the sample rate, will I be able to put video up at 500 or is my upload rate going to cap it?

The audio sample rate has nothing to do with the video bitrate so yes you can set it to 500 no problems. If it feels laggy in game, as in you have to set to extra high latency every game, then reduce the video bitrate and see if that helps.
t.t
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 01:33:49
March 24 2012 19:57 GMT
#165
I do not take any credit for finding this method.

Long time ago, I thought camtasia+xsplit was possible, but it was not. Many users were left to use windowed mode for streaming their games. Windowed mode still has its advantages, but high APM users will realize that windowed mode drops frames compared to the fullscreen mode, which takes some time to get adjusted to.

Few days ago, I saw pro7ect streaming and he was using fullscreen with xsplit. I asked him how, but he only mentioned the program. After googling, I figured out how to get it working with xsplit (thank you pro7ect!)

1. Download uscreencapture and xsplit. Install both programs
2. Download uscreencapture fix and overwrite the files in the uscreencapture folder (C:\Program Files\UnrealStreaming\UScreenCapture). You need this file to hide the mouse, but also to prevent the dreaded black screen of stream from happening.
3. Go to registry and find the UScreenCapture key.

WARNING: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR COMPUTER DAMAGES IF YOU SCREW UP KEYS/VALUES IN YOUR REGISTRY BY ACCIDENT.

On Win 7, it is located at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
On Win XP, it is located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Classes/VirtualStore/MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
(I'm not too sure about Vista, sorry)

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS, create the keys yourself by right clicking, New -> Key. Think of Key as a subfolder.

In there, you will find 5 REG_DWORD values named Top, Bottom, Left, Right, FrameRate (case sensitive I assume). If you do not have these 5 REG_DWORD values (think of it as files), then create them.

Now, assign each values so that it matches up as follows, in decimal:
Top: 0
Bottom: 480
Left: 0
Right: 640
FrameRate: 30 (30 is the maximum that UScreenCapture can support).

Now that you're set with UScrenpCapture, go boot up xsplit.

Notable bug: Once UScreenCapture is activated in xsplit (as in, it shows up on scene sources panel in any one of the 12 Scenes), do not change settings. I found that you can't change your hotkey settings once UScreepCapture is in use, and you will have to delete from scene sources panel and reboot to fix the problem.

Select Add, Add camera, UScreenCapture.

Now you have fullscreen mode working, along with any additional stuff that you want to add using xsplit.

If you change the values but leave the right option as hexadecimal, pray that you can convert numbers in your head quickly before you screw up the area that UScreepCapture is going to capture.




Note: Pictures will be made if needed/requested
ppp
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
March 26 2012 03:04 GMT
#166
Awesome, so much easier using xsplit then camtasia.
|| o.o
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
March 28 2012 00:43 GMT
#167
Has anyone done testing on SNM's new solution to streaming? I haven't been able to get it to work on this Win XP machine but I'll try it again when I get access to a machine with Windows 7 on it.
t.t
-DroneKing-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States69 Posts
March 28 2012 20:14 GMT
#168
I tried testing it, but it ended up not working. Trying to troubleshoot the problem now.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
March 29 2012 01:26 GMT
#169
After installing uscreencapture and its fix, then setting the registries (I had to create the dwords) I go to xsplit and tell it to "Add camera" but literally nothing happens.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
-DroneKing-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States69 Posts
March 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#170
Still no luck on my end. Having similar problems except UScreenCapture camera works in Xsplit but it just defaults to small resolution
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
April 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#171
Ok, I'm getting a crazy big ping on iccup.
Upload is .76Mbps so that's 760 Kbps

So if I take 176Kbps off for iCCup and music, I can't put video at 500. Instead I put it at 350 and audio 112 so that should give me a lot of buffer. But I sometimes have 1300 or 2000 ping.

Without all that stuff running I get 250 ping which seems high, but I've always had 2 green bars and never 1 bar. Wired, not wireless.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 02 2012 05:53 GMT
#172
On April 02 2012 10:08 Falling wrote:
Ok, I'm getting a crazy big ping on iccup.
Upload is .76Mbps so that's 760 Kbps

So if I take 176Kbps off for iCCup and music, I can't put video at 500. Instead I put it at 350 and audio 112 so that should give me a lot of buffer. But I sometimes have 1300 or 2000 ping.

Without all that stuff running I get 250 ping which seems high, but I've always had 2 green bars and never 1 bar. Wired, not wireless.


250 ping is not high.

are you lagging in games? On fish and iccup I have 400-600 ping but I can host and play without any probs. This is with streaming. If you are not lagging I would not worry so much.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
April 02 2012 06:02 GMT
#173
Ok, that's good to know 250 is not high. It seems that way when those test things say I have 30 or so and LoL say 60-70.

The problem is at 1300 and 2000 when I'm actually streaming- we end up play on extra latency. I'm pretty sure it's on my end as they usually have a much lower ping.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
April 02 2012 07:04 GMT
#174
On March 25 2012 04:57 supernovamaniac wrote:
I do not take any credit for finding this method.

Long time ago, I thought camtasia+xsplit was possible, but it was not. Many users were left to use windowed mode for streaming their games. Windowed mode still has its advantages, but high APM users will realize that windowed mode drops frames compared to the fullscreen mode, which takes some time to get adjusted to.

Few days ago, I saw pro7ect streaming and he was using fullscreen with xsplit. I asked him how, but he only mentioned the program. After googling, I figured out how to get it working with xsplit (thank you pro7ect!)

1. Download uscreencapture and xsplit. Install both programs
2. Download uscreencapture fix and overwrite the files in the uscreencapture folder (C:\Program Files\UnrealStreaming\UScreenCapture). You need this file to hide the mouse, but also to prevent the dreaded black screen of stream from happening.
3. Go to registry and find the UScreenCapture key.

WARNING: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR COMPUTER DAMAGES IF YOU SCREW UP KEYS/VALUES IN YOUR REGISTRY BY ACCIDENT.

On XP, it is located at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
On Win 7, it is located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Classes/VirtualStore/MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
(I'm not too sure about Vista, sorry)

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS, create the keys yourself by right clicking, New -> Key. Think of Key as a subfolder.

In there, you will find 5 REG_DWORD values named Top, Bottom, Left, Right, FrameRate (case sensitive I assume). If you do not have these 5 REG_DWORD values (think of it as files), then create them.

Now, assign each values so that it matches up as follows, in decimal:
Top: 0
Bottom: 480
Left: 0
Right: 640
FrameRate: 30 (30 is the maximum that UScreenCapture can support).

Now that you're set with UScrenpCapture, go boot up xsplit.

Notable bug: Once UScreenCapture is activated in xsplit (as in, it shows up on scene sources panel in any one of the 12 Scenes), do not change settings. I found that you can't change your hotkey settings once UScreepCapture is in use, and you will have to delete from scene sources panel and reboot to fix the problem.

Select Add, Add camera, UScreenCapture.

Now you have fullscreen mode working, along with any additional stuff that you want to add using xsplit.

If you change the values but leave the right option as hexadecimal, pray that you can convert numbers in your head quickly before you screw up the area that UScreepCapture is going to capture.




Note: Pictures will be made if needed/requested


Pictures always good... But I was just wondering what're the differences/advantages for xsplit over camtasia? will it run smoother/lag less, or it's just easier to throw on overlays and such?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
April 02 2012 07:30 GMT
#175
On April 02 2012 16:04 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 04:57 supernovamaniac wrote:
I do not take any credit for finding this method.

Long time ago, I thought camtasia+xsplit was possible, but it was not. Many users were left to use windowed mode for streaming their games. Windowed mode still has its advantages, but high APM users will realize that windowed mode drops frames compared to the fullscreen mode, which takes some time to get adjusted to.

Few days ago, I saw pro7ect streaming and he was using fullscreen with xsplit. I asked him how, but he only mentioned the program. After googling, I figured out how to get it working with xsplit (thank you pro7ect!)

1. Download uscreencapture and xsplit. Install both programs
2. Download uscreencapture fix and overwrite the files in the uscreencapture folder (C:\Program Files\UnrealStreaming\UScreenCapture). You need this file to hide the mouse, but also to prevent the dreaded black screen of stream from happening.
3. Go to registry and find the UScreenCapture key.

WARNING: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR COMPUTER DAMAGES IF YOU SCREW UP KEYS/VALUES IN YOUR REGISTRY BY ACCIDENT.

On XP, it is located at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
On Win 7, it is located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Classes/VirtualStore/MACHINE/SOFTWARE/UNREAL/LIVE/UScreenCapture
(I'm not too sure about Vista, sorry)

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS, create the keys yourself by right clicking, New -> Key. Think of Key as a subfolder.

In there, you will find 5 REG_DWORD values named Top, Bottom, Left, Right, FrameRate (case sensitive I assume). If you do not have these 5 REG_DWORD values (think of it as files), then create them.

Now, assign each values so that it matches up as follows, in decimal:
Top: 0
Bottom: 480
Left: 0
Right: 640
FrameRate: 30 (30 is the maximum that UScreenCapture can support).

Now that you're set with UScrenpCapture, go boot up xsplit.

Notable bug: Once UScreenCapture is activated in xsplit (as in, it shows up on scene sources panel in any one of the 12 Scenes), do not change settings. I found that you can't change your hotkey settings once UScreepCapture is in use, and you will have to delete from scene sources panel and reboot to fix the problem.

Select Add, Add camera, UScreenCapture.

Now you have fullscreen mode working, along with any additional stuff that you want to add using xsplit.

If you change the values but leave the right option as hexadecimal, pray that you can convert numbers in your head quickly before you screw up the area that UScreepCapture is going to capture.




Note: Pictures will be made if needed/requested


Pictures always good... But I was just wondering what're the differences/advantages for xsplit over camtasia? will it run smoother/lag less, or it's just easier to throw on overlays and such?

1. Easier to use overlays and switch scenes. Really helpful if you want to do FPVOD + Webcam, or put up sponsors/ads etc.

2. Don't have to turnoff/restart camtasia for screenfix. Never forget, never get yelled at.

Running smoother/lag less depends on your computer, but from what I heard it is generally supposed to be lower than camtasia/FMLE combo. You also don't have to work with things like virtual cables etc. for audio, and you can adjust the volumes easy with xsplit. If you ever used xsplit, think of it as all the advantages of xsplit + fullscreen.
ppp
CfgosCuba
Profile Joined February 2010
Cuba94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 15:20:46
April 02 2012 15:09 GMT
#176
I tried this xsplit + uscreen combo but it didnt work
i think the problem is that it doesnt let me overwrite the file UScreenCapture.ax cuz it says
[image loading]

I have restarted several times and nothing

and also the window is at the top right like this

[image loading]

any help will be aprecciate it

Edit: btw i have windows 7
http://www.twitch.tv/cfgoscuba c terran hwaiting.. sc2 too ez, 4 days playing and Im already platinun..wtf.. fuck sc2. I uninstalled it.. www.youtube.com/user/cfgoscuba2
SarahBW
Profile Joined July 2011
67 Posts
April 05 2012 22:14 GMT
#177
Sure got fast internet connection for streaming Brood War ^^ just need to upgrade PC
Wondering tho, if you need to set up stream differently for streaming sc2.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 06 2012 06:19 GMT
#178
I changed to onboard (Realtek HD) instead of my soundcard, and viewers say that they can barely hear my mic and my stereo mix. My voice on ts seems to be the same, or at least not as much difference to streaming so does anyone know how to fix this?
Stuck.
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
April 08 2012 01:19 GMT
#179
On March 18 2012 09:03 sabas123 wrote:
or yust get Xfire, you can stream bw with it on jtv, you only wont be able to see the loby


I just want to echo this statement, xfire is awesome and it does everything for you and it works in fullscreen. Easiest setup by far.


I will have to try what snm said as well.
ps. snm what kind of computer and internet do you have? Your stream is really smooth.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
seol1500
Profile Joined February 2010
52 Posts
April 08 2012 15:30 GMT
#180
Stereo mix doesn't work too well so I got VAC but It makes horrible echo however I set buffer, any help please?
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