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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 27 2011 15:40 GMT
#1121
On July 28 2011 00:39 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 00:19 Masheyoon wrote:
And before Effort returns, no less...

Seems like only yesterday when we had all of this to look forward to in a single year:

WCG Korea
WCG
GOM
MSL
OSL
PL/WL

I'm trying to be as optimistic as possible, but with the way the "Nothing has been decided yet" article was worded, along with the reported twitter comments by the commentators... I just don't know.

BW fighting~


ah
i cant believe i used to think that it was too much BW back then...

i wish i could feel that way again now ;<


I hear ya. That's how I feel about SC2 now though, haha. There's so much going on, and sometimes I feel like I'm drowning in it. I REALLY wish there was a BW Calendar or something, even as plain as it would be. TT
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
July 27 2011 15:41 GMT
#1122
Let's unleash the rage of the Korean netizens!
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
July 27 2011 15:42 GMT
#1123
On July 27 2011 23:10 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 23:04 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On July 27 2011 23:00 Chargelot wrote:
Can someone please explain exactly why this would be bad for SC2? It seems to me that -- NO DISRESPECT INTENDED -- a failing company who casts ancient games (good though they may be) is switching up its broadcasting style to prevent bankruptcy.

It's like saying the Windows 98 Offical Fan Club is closing down, and this is absolutely horrible for Windows 7 users.

Seriously, no disrespect intended, it just really looks like that is what people are saying. It's not as simple as "Well E-Sports is E-Sports." If SC2 isn't broadcasted on this channel, it will not effect it? Is there any reasonable explanation as to why it would? I'm thinking it over again and again, and I don't discredit any of you, I believe I MUST be missing SOMETHING.


It is an indicator that esports might not be as viable as we think it is.

That a station that held up half of broodwars and several other esports, and had better ratings than it's sc2 equivalent, believes that it is more viable to switch it's focus to kpop, indicates that esports itself might not be viable, and that the position of any station promoting esports might not be as economically stable as we like.


I have to respectfully disagree. It means they believe their current lineup of E-Sports may be failing, and that it is more reasonable to change their broadcasting genre than to edit their lineup.

League of Legends got something ridiculous, in the neighborhood of 2.2M unique viewers at DreamHack Summer (A very high number, insanely large, was concurrent).

SC2 Got a few hundred thousand, running well over 80,000 concurrent for most of the final day.

I think a station playing more modernized E-Sports games could do very well. Maybe not in the Korean market, but like I've mentioned, BW is the only game in which Korea remains the E-Sports capital of the world.

An American company -- lets say G4 -- could do very well by broadcasting modern E-Sports games.


Broadcasting modern esports on American television is not going to work, I'm sorry.

1.) Gaming as a profession is not socially accepted like it is in Korea. Like the TL staff member said earlier, BW is on two primetime cable channels that everyone has access to - everyone from infants to the elderly know what Brood War is.

2.) The hardware and money required to broadcast to the 3rd largest country in the world is nothing short of staggering. CGS tried this on DirecTV. Failed miserably. USA Network played a couple of MLG highlight programs a few times throughout the year. They were also broadcasted at like 9:00 A.M.

3.) Like many have already said, a lot of us don't watch TV more than an hour a week. If Esports was to be viable outside of Korea, it would have to be through internet streaming such as ESPN3.

Although I like your optimism, you will never see an American TV channel dedicated to Starcraft 2. Broadcasting television is not that simple my fellow SC fan. "Never" is a strong word, but in America, the medium of the future is through internet broadcasting.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
July 27 2011 15:44 GMT
#1124
This really sucks. Bisu, you better win it for us and for the Protoss!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
July 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#1125
MBCGame should just stream their stuff, you can make money off streaming and it takes away from the hassle of someone using afreeca proxies just for us to watch.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
July 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#1126
What we need now probably is someone like Boxer, one who can convince corporate to invest (reinvest in this case, which is no doubt exponentially harder), one who can lead the scene and one who can devote his life into BW.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 27 2011 15:47 GMT
#1127
On July 28 2011 00:42 PHC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 23:10 Chargelot wrote:
On July 27 2011 23:04 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On July 27 2011 23:00 Chargelot wrote:
Can someone please explain exactly why this would be bad for SC2? It seems to me that -- NO DISRESPECT INTENDED -- a failing company who casts ancient games (good though they may be) is switching up its broadcasting style to prevent bankruptcy.

It's like saying the Windows 98 Offical Fan Club is closing down, and this is absolutely horrible for Windows 7 users.

Seriously, no disrespect intended, it just really looks like that is what people are saying. It's not as simple as "Well E-Sports is E-Sports." If SC2 isn't broadcasted on this channel, it will not effect it? Is there any reasonable explanation as to why it would? I'm thinking it over again and again, and I don't discredit any of you, I believe I MUST be missing SOMETHING.


It is an indicator that esports might not be as viable as we think it is.

That a station that held up half of broodwars and several other esports, and had better ratings than it's sc2 equivalent, believes that it is more viable to switch it's focus to kpop, indicates that esports itself might not be viable, and that the position of any station promoting esports might not be as economically stable as we like.


I have to respectfully disagree. It means they believe their current lineup of E-Sports may be failing, and that it is more reasonable to change their broadcasting genre than to edit their lineup.

League of Legends got something ridiculous, in the neighborhood of 2.2M unique viewers at DreamHack Summer (A very high number, insanely large, was concurrent).

SC2 Got a few hundred thousand, running well over 80,000 concurrent for most of the final day.

I think a station playing more modernized E-Sports games could do very well. Maybe not in the Korean market, but like I've mentioned, BW is the only game in which Korea remains the E-Sports capital of the world.

An American company -- lets say G4 -- could do very well by broadcasting modern E-Sports games.


Broadcasting modern esports on American television is not going to work, I'm sorry.

1.) Gaming as a profession is not socially accepted like it is in Korea. Like the TL staff member said earlier, BW is on two primetime cable channels that everyone has access to - everyone from infants to the elderly know what Brood War is.

2.) The hardware and money required to broadcast to the 3rd largest country in the world is nothing short of staggering. CGS tried this on DirecTV. Failed miserably. USA Network played a couple of MLG highlight programs a few times throughout the year. They were also broadcasted at like 9:00 A.M.

3.) Like many have already said, a lot of us don't watch TV more than an hour a week. If Esports was to be viable outside of Korea, it would have to be through internet streaming such as ESPN3.

Although I like your optimism, you will never see an American TV channel dedicated to Starcraft 2. Broadcasting television is not that simple my fellow SC fan. "Never" is a strong word, but in America, the medium of the future is through internet broadcasting.


Also dont forget that a lot of games are about killing eachother in mass quantities. That generally isn't a family friendly sort of thing.
twitch.tv/medrea
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
July 27 2011 15:48 GMT
#1128
this sux hard... hope it wont be the end of BW... best game evah made and it could probably still be played for decades or centuries without getting boring or outdated >_<;
its me
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
July 27 2011 15:49 GMT
#1129
woke up, updated with new infos
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 27 2011 15:49 GMT
#1130
Rumor has it that iCCup banned MBCGame from Korea due to a grudge.

User was warned for this post
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 27 2011 15:49 GMT
#1131


Theclutch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States119 Posts
July 27 2011 15:50 GMT
#1132
Tis a sad day indeed =(
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
July 27 2011 15:53 GMT
#1133
maybe we should start a petition to convince them that there are many SCBW lovers out there who does not agree on this...
C9 ~^v^~ In EE-sama we trust. ~^v^~ C9
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
July 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#1134
No more MSL? This is insane!! Now there are less things for me to stay up until ungodly hours in the morning for
R.I.P. CheckSix
Refused.
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
July 27 2011 15:55 GMT
#1135
All this really proves is that Kpop is annoying garbage that poisons everything it touches.
Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
July 27 2011 15:56 GMT
#1136
omg for real?
mooshoo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
July 27 2011 15:57 GMT
#1137
i've cried for the past couple of hours....wait i only have like 15 posts, i must be lying!!
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 27 2011 16:04 GMT
#1138
On July 28 2011 00:57 mooshoo wrote:
i've cried for the past couple of hours....wait i only have like 15 posts, i must be lying!!

No I feel you those tears are real. Regardless what the post count, we are all comrade and lover of E-Sports
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
tripper688
Profile Joined January 2011
United States569 Posts
July 27 2011 16:05 GMT
#1139
On July 27 2011 18:07 Ryo wrote:
An update from Fomos:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119604&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Basically, the management is still discussing this. They haven't made a decision whether or not to proceed with this. Even if they decide to proceed, they still have to seek the approval of the Korean Communications Commission (govt body) if they want to change the gaming channel into a music channel.



best news I've seen in this otherwise heart breaking thread
"Excuse me I gotta do some vacuuming really fast *vrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm*" Day[9]
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#1140
Oh dear lord.
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