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On July 28 2011 01:13 ballasdontcry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 00:45 TheOnly92 wrote: What we need now probably is someone like Boxer, one who can convince corporate to invest (reinvest in this case, which is no doubt exponentially harder), one who can lead the scene and one who can devote his life into BW. and what makes you think boxer has time to do all that? he's got his hands full managing slayers on sc2 and playing.
I'm pretty sure he means a new player who would act like a new Boxer... =/
Very sad news.
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WHAT THE FUCK Dude I don't want MSL to disappear!
Words cannot express how sad this is. Shutting down a game channel is more serious than it seems; it's not just a video game channel broadcasting Brood war tournaments, the issue is much deeper.
My english is not good enough to explain it well but let's just say that popularizing video games, technologies, and by extension, esports is an significant step in order for mankind to evolve.
This may be a bold and far fetched statement but I'm convinced that shutting down MBC will definitely hinder our evolution.
Also yes I agree, sc2 needs BW in order to survive in Korea so no matter the point of view, this is bad news
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On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world
So how many major media companies extensively promote eSports in the west? The fact that the only two in the world are (were) both in Korea doesn't make this any better news.
Worldwide eSports is barely a blip on the radar. No one outside the gaming community gives a shit.
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So sad. I hope OGN doesn't follow suit, or else Korean e-sports will be extremely wounded. ㅠ_ㅠ
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Guys, Korea is pretty much the only country in the world where ESPORTS is mainstream. If sc2 scene doesn't survive in THIS country, then how do you think it will fare in other countries???
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lol, Really you can't see why this would be bad for e-sports in general? Has to be trolling.... can someone really be that naive?
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On July 28 2011 01:46 AlBundy wrote: Guys, Korea is pretty much the only country in the world where ESPORTS is mainstream. If sc2 scene doesn't survive in THIS country, then how do you think it will fare in other countries???
people will argue sc2 is doing well globally lol
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thinking that this is going to be the last MSL is really sad. this really sucks, lol
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On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world
Foreign eSports? For now. Just like foreigner BW in the early days, it will die down. Foreigners love the latest/shiny stuff.
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On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world how is there some "esport" in the fuckign west? its NOTHING. u kids go berserk over 80k people WORLD WIDE FUCKING WORLD WIDE. this is like nothing? fucking west "esport" is a joke. u throw 500 tournaments at each other. top 10 can make a living out of it. rest can mb play it for 1 year fulltime and then do somethign else again. how can u srsly call that a sports?
and now that u have koreanas coming over getting the money.
4 5 years from now on. next big RTS or whatever "omg THE esports game" will come out. and everyone of you will say "cu SCII time for somethign new" how the fuck is that a sports?.
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On July 28 2011 01:53 Black[CAT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world Foreign eSports? For now. Just like foreigner BW in the early days, it will die down. Foreigners love the latest/shiny stuff.
Also there's a massive difference in the business of it. Here primarily tech companies sponsor and advertise in eSports so they can sell computer/console apparel to gamers. In Korea they advertise things you'd see during any normal sporting event, everyday stuff for the masses.
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i have mixed feelings about this, but i think at the end of the day we should all want mbcgame to stay a game channel
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On July 28 2011 01:53 Black[CAT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world Foreign eSports? For now. Just like foreigner BW in the early days, it will die down. Foreigners love the latest/shiny stuff. Exactly.
Do you honestly think SC2 is thriving globally? It's very unstable to build a business on top of a single game anyway since games constantly evolve over time and this is why Starcraft BW in Korea is so amazing. SC2 just smells like a fad and I doubt it will become huge.
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On July 28 2011 01:57 Mannerheim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 01:53 Black[CAT] wrote:On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote: I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?
And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene? A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2? A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general. Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world Foreign eSports? For now. Just like foreigner BW in the early days, it will die down. Foreigners love the latest/shiny stuff. Also there's a massive difference in the business of it. Here primarily tech companies sponsor and advertise in eSports so they can sell computer/console apparel to gamers. In Korea they advertise things you'd see during any normal sporting event, everyday stuff.
True, true. Unless foreign esports has even a toothpaste ad or even a retail outlet ad or something along mainstream lines/interest(cant think of examples, sleepy), I wouldn't call the western scene legit in terms of sustainability.
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wow this is a sad day indeed
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Well I hope everyone is gonna be proved wrong on the whole this will kill ESPORTS scene, I for one don't want to see it vanish.
And if what most of you are saying turns out to be true what will happen with our beloved TL community. Considering BW is pretty much dead, and from what everyone else is saying the soon to be SC2 death after it there would be no re4ason to continue having this site.
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Will miss the times Savior owned it up in 2005... too bad everything went downhill in the past years.
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God, I hope its not true. I piece of me will die when MBC shuts its doors to broodwar
On July 28 2011 02:06 raistline123 wrote: And if what most of you are saying turns out to be true what will happen with our beloved TL community. Considering BW is pretty much dead, and from what everyone else is saying the soon to be SC2 death after it there would be no re4ason to continue having this site. The community will hold up the site
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On July 28 2011 01:22 leakingpear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 00:17 Torenhire wrote:On July 28 2011 00:16 leakingpear wrote: As sad as this, i'm more sad that people still keep capitalising all of the word esports, it's not an acronym, so if you want to follow that logic spell it ESports, or E-Sports, or if you want to follow late 90s eMail convention/KeSPA style call it eSports. Or just stop equating everything that's good or bad for SC2 as a grand indictment/celebration of every other professional game. Actually it's properly spelled ESPORTS. No it isn't, it starts for Electronic Sports, it doesn't stand for Electronic Sports Of Real Time Strategy, unless somewhere someone has now decided this is the case over years of it meaning the former in both Korean and Western media. The idea that because day9 did it or it's done on TL suddenly makes it part of the zeitgeist and suddenly not a retarded perversion of centuries of capitalisation etiquette is absurd. You're probably trolling me but honestly why the fuck are Team Liquid, as an organisation of significant reputability condoning such a plain stupid way of referencing the thing they're trying to promote? MY MIND IS BOGGLED.
It's a joke, kind of like the new "YOURE RUINING ESPORTS."
There was an article a long time ago (assuming you were after these times) where it was ESPORTS and SCIENCE.
All caps is a must.
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